carleton

OK. I get it.

dunderhi

All black is a good look. I also have the matching track stem, which I think brings the color scheme together. That said, I might end up using my Cavendish road stem since I like the curved lines a little better.

WhatsYoCadence

Your bars don't have gold on them like mine. Tradesies?

dunderhi

Nah, I'm a silver medal type of guy. Gold would be too much pressure for me.

WhatsYoCadence

Hahah, i hate this gold. Hey what width are those bars? Mine are 40, which is too big for me. I'm like 5'5.

Trackliche

I've used bedliner in a can to good effect. Plenty grippy, pretty inexpensive, super durable. Gloves are up to you.

-TC

dunderhi

I'm a pretty big guy, so I think mine are a bit narrow at 40cm c-c. Last year, I rode 42cm c-c and the year before that I rode deep drop Cinelli's at 43cm c-c.

Quinn8it

Dear Careton,
Will I see you at the Keirin next week? Or will you be too busy playing tennis?

carleton

I definitely won't be there racing. But, I'll certainly come and watch!

Quinn8it

Looking forward to riding that track! Should be a couple fun nights of racing

MarkWW

I'm really bummed I won't be able to make it back this year. I'll be too busy drinking in the dominican republic.

Quinn8it

Bummer!!!
I was supposed to go 3yrs ago and had a situation at work that forced me to cancel last minute...

carleton

It will be, for sure!

WhatsYoCadence

So, I'm finding that I have good acceleration and good-enough-to-win top end. My problem is my lungs are done before the race is. What should I do for training to help with that? I have a trainer, but it's not quite tight on my bike so I end up leaning to the left a little when I ride it- so I prefer not to, but will if you say to.

carleton

It's not up to me.

You need some sort of conditioning. All sprint and now conditioning makes Jack a dull boy.

brawlo

What kind of races? Sprints ~ trainer intervals 30s on 60s off @ 60-80% of your top speed. 5min warmup, 8 and working up to 12-14 reps, 5min cooldown. For longer enduro type races, do more road riding, especially crit style. High intensity, shorter 1-1.5hr duration

Not the Slowest

As stated there are a number of things that can still be done. As a side note, get the trainer issue resolved. Sounds like the trainer you have will not lock your track/or road bike properly. In anycase I believe using the road bike on it makes more sense and resolve that issue.

GENESTARWIND

Squats and dead lift > leg press! What are those numbers sit. I assume pretty high

Huskey

Dear Carleton....

Atm I'm trying to source a front race wheel, I'm keen on a zipp 808 as I have a zipp rear disc (am actually keen one a food 5 spoke, but I'm poor). However in my searches I've found a 1080 going for a great price. The depth of the wheel isn't much of an issue for me as I have a campy posts front I can use if it's windy. My issue is the stiffness. By no means am I putting out pro numbers but I am a sprinter. I'm currently sitting between 80-85kg.
I read on the "informal wheel review" thread that they feel squishy in the corners when pulling some gs. Is this a major issue or just a small gripe? How would the "squichyness" compare to that of a mavic ellipse or a campy pista?

carleton

Deeper isn't necessarily better when it comes to aero equipment. The sweet spot for deep dish wheels on outdoor tracks is somewhere between the Zipp 404 or 808.

Riding a 1080 on an outdoor track would be very similar to riding a front disk...on an outdoor track. Any gust of wind will affect your steering and scare the bejeezus out of you. Feels like someone grabbed your handlebars and pushed them to the side

My advice:

- If you are a smaller rider 160lbs or less (ballpark number), go with a 404 type wheel. 808 will be too big and a gust of wind will blow you around.
- If you are larger than 160lbs, go with an 808 type wheel because you are heavy enough to deal with a gust of wind.
- Pass on the 1080 for any size.

This isn't an exact science. This is just my anecdotal experience. I've seen smaller riders on 808s and they hated being blown around (one rider immediately came off the track and raced the rest of the day on her training front wheel). I've seen 180lb guys get the willies riding 1080 front wheels.

The 1080 simply isn't worth it...especially if you are on a budget and are looking for a regular-use race wheel.

Further, I don't mean get 404s or 808s. Just use their depths as a reference when buying Zipp or other brand wheels.

Everyone seems to be OK on 5 spoke wheels with regards to gusts of wind from the side.

carleton

Also, the 1080s weighed the same as the 808s. This means they used the same amount of material and simply stretched it thinner. Hence the mushiness that I experienced. I'm much heavier than most. But, I had a 180-190lb teammate say he felt the same thing when he borrowed the wheelset.

If you have 808 and 1080 in-hand at the same time, you can tap on the carbon and feel the relative thinness of the 1080s.

brawlo

If it's only a front wheel you're chasing, then don't forget you can also use road front wheels with the bolt skewers. That should broaden your horizons quite a bit and allow you to scour the triathlon sales pages where the gear turnover is quite high. Also, once you go past 60mm, the aero gains are almost negligible, so say a 90mm front gives very little advantage over a 60.

Huskey

Yeah the 1080 is a road wheel. Triathletes seem to have slot of money to throw around to have just a high turn over. Shame they can't ride....

I've used an 80mm wheel with my disc before borrowed it at training and didn't have any issues in regards to wind (was actually windy that day)
I wasn't too keen on the 1080 at first but I figured I'd look into it. If it does the job and it's there for the right price then why not.
Anyway I'm going to give it a miss, I'm 185ish and only going to get heavier and my state titles will be on boards. Don't really want to second guess my equipment when doing 60+ through the corners.

Thanks for the fast feedback though, unfortunately I couldn't find anyone local with one I could try out or ask their opinion

brawlo

How much do you want to spend? Maybe look at a reputable Chinese front wheel from the likes of Light Bicycle (that's who made my rims) or Farsports. Upgrade to a reasonable hub and off you go. Quality replacement wheel bearings if the stock ones are dodgy are pretty cheap. Go for the U shaped rim offerings for better performance in crosswinds if you'll be using it outdoors. My Chinese 88mm rims laced to DA hubs have rocketed my 120kg ass to an 11.92 F200 without a problem

Doge

What does a pursuit bike a Cat 1 rider would use look like?