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Old 07-24-16, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jt_uk View Post
This seems like the best thread to ask as the weight lifting section is very specific to lifting.

How are you guys dealing with the leg mass in regards to fitting into trousers? Being a shortie my legs and ass are getting too big to fit into trousers for my waist, I curbed my training for a few months but got out of shape and started training again. Lo and behold I've started gaining mass, stylish trousers are skin tight and in warm weather its so uncomfortable.

Does anybody purchase trousers from a specific website etc that caters for this type of physique?
I'm far from a big dude but my butt and thighs do struggle a bit with pants that fit my waist.

Stretch is key. And, lighter material - thinner denim, etc.

There are a few companies selling athlete-specific gear that has a small waist and big thighs (Keirin Cut Jeans), for example, but those are niche products.
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Definitely go for jeans that have a relaxed fit.
You can have my slim fit trousers when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
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you can have my slim fit trousers when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
lol!
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Went shopping today for a new pair of slacks, tried Next, H&M etc, no joy, either too baggy or too tight. I need a tapered leg as I'm short and it makes me look better (I'm single ). The problem is when in summer the tight fits allow heat to build up in ones nether regions and it can get a bit sweaty .
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I've been wearing Wrangler relaxed fit carpenter's jeans and been pretty happy with them. They do have wide cuffs though, so you may not like them. But they do fit nicely over work boots.
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Look into Levis 541 (Athletic) Stretch. They fit the bill for me. I own 5 pair (was time to buy fresh jeans for work basics).

Lots of colors and waist sizes are available in 1-inch increments 31-42". They have 18 different colors. I think they are going all in with this cut this season.

541? Dark Blue Athletic Fit Men's Stretch Jeans | Levi's



I've found mine at Macy's. The price varies. I won't pay MSRP. If they don't have them on sale one week, I'll try back after a week or two and there will be a sale. Levis at Macy's are weird like that...for decades. Usually like 1/3 off MSRP somehow. Either straight 1/3 off or buy 1 get one 1/2 off (same thing).

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You could try Japanese jeans(I do not remember the brand name)
Japanese jeans are super stretchy, so you don't have to worry about your popping your jeans lol
I think you can get these jeans in Saks fifth avenue.

I was trying to buy one, but I could not find 29 or 30 size........
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I buy trousers and jeans that fit my legs and butt, and then have the waists taken in by a local tailor.
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Does anyone have suggestions for rollers/a trainer for living in a second or third floor apartment situation? I'll be moving into my first apartment this month and am concerned about getting noise complaints with my current equipment.

I tried a CycleOps Silencer recently and was very impressed with how well it lived up to its name. I also tried some Kreitlers recently and was similarly impressed with how quiet they were. Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by TrackMonkey7 View Post
Does anyone have suggestions for rollers/a trainer for living in a second or third floor apartment situation? I'll be moving into my first apartment this month and am concerned about getting noise complaints with my current equipment.

I tried a CycleOps Silencer recently and was very impressed with how well it lived up to its name. I also tried some Kreitlers recently and was similarly impressed with how quiet they were. Thoughts?
You should get a Keirin roller
I tried Korea Keirin roller and I was amazed by sound and stability.
I have to ask my friend where we could get one.
If you are interested, I could ask my friend

Korea roller is made by a retired keirin racer who worked for a bearing company.
He used his knowledge to make a perfect keirin roller.
So every keirin racers and track are using his roller

If you look at the picture, you could see how big is the drum is
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Old 08-14-16, 10:24 AM
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Looking for advice - I want to put some wheels together using a flip -flip hub, something I can use out spinning on the road with a front brake as well as for training on the velodrome. What's a good compromise clincher rim that will suit both purposes as best possible? I'm thinking Mavic Open Pros...
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Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
Looking for advice - I want to put some wheels together using a flip -flip hub, something I can use out spinning on the road with a front brake as well as for training on the velodrome. What's a good compromise clincher rim that will suit both purposes as best possible? I'm thinking Mavic Open Pros...
There are lots of off-the-rack flip-flop wheels and wheelsets available. Just make sure that they have a brake track.

If you want to build a set custom, fine. But, don't feel that you have to to get a solid wheelset.

Look here for good prices (I'm not affiliated with any of these):

Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
https://www.retro-gression.com/

And, yes, Open Pros will work fine, but they are a very old reference rim. There have been many rims made since then. Deep section rims have become more popular that box section. The idea is that the shorter spokes make for a stiffer wheel and the aero profile of the rim provides aero benefits. But, to be honest, for a training wheel, aero won't matter much. And unless you are doing really powerful standing starts, stiffness won't matter much either. Actually, your stiffness will come more from spoke count and thickness than rim depth anyway.
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Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
Looking for advice - I want to put some wheels together using a flip -flip hub, something I can use out spinning on the road with a front brake as well as for training on the velodrome. What's a good compromise clincher rim that will suit both purposes as best possible? I'm thinking Mavic Open Pros...
I have a lot of experience with training on the road with my track bike, because I don't live near a velodrome.
I personally recommend using TWO brakes when you are training on the road.
It doesn't matter if you are going 10 miles per hour or 50 miles per hour.
There are many crazy drivers!
So try to use two brakes.

Also @carelton is right about the wheel.
It's better to have a modern rim like Velocity Deep V, but it wouldn't make a huge difference.
So buy a cheaper wheel(similar quality wheel) and use that money to buy some cogs and chainring.
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Old 08-14-16, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gycho77 View Post
I have a lot of experience with training on the road with my track bike, because I don't live near a velodrome.
I personally recommend using TWO brakes when you are training on the road.
It doesn't matter if you are going 10 miles per hour or 50 miles per hour.
There are many crazy drivers!
So try to use two brakes.

Also @carelton is right about the wheel.
It's better to have a modern rim like Velocity Deep V, but it wouldn't make a huge difference.
So buy a cheaper wheel(similar quality wheel) and use that money to buy some cogs and chainring.
Guys,

Thanks for the advice. One other question - which hubs other than Dura Ace have locking threads on both sides? I noticed some flip-flops seem to leave one side for a single-speed freewheel (or at least a cog with no locking).
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Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
Guys,

Thanks for the advice. One other question - which hubs other than Dura Ace have locking threads on both sides? I noticed some flip-flops seem to leave one side for a single-speed freewheel (or at least a cog with no locking).
Did you visit the websites I linked above?
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Did you visit the websites I linked above?
Thanks. Just not sure from the listings which are which. I'll do some further exploration!
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Thanks. Just not sure from the listings which are which. I'll do some further exploration!
There are single-sided options:

- Freewheel (with no cross-threaded lip for a lock ring), called "Free"
- Fixed Gear (with a cross-threaded lip for a lock ring), called "Fixed"

Then they come with options on both side, "flip/flop":

- Fixed/Free
- Fixed/Fixed (this is what you want).

Look for the stepped-lip.
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Fixed/Free(wheel):



Fixed/Fixed (what you want):



Notice the stepped-lip on both sides. That's to accommodate the lockring on both sides.
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Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
Guys,

Thanks for the advice. One other question - which hubs other than Dura Ace have locking threads on both sides? I noticed some flip-flops seem to leave one side for a single-speed freewheel (or at least a cog with no locking).
I have some mavic wheels that are fixed fixed. Not sure why there aren't more like this, as you can put a free wheel on a fixed hub. But you can't put a lock ring on a free wheel hub.
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Originally Posted by TDinBristol View Post
Looking for advice - I want to put some wheels together using a flip -flip hub, something I can use out spinning on the road with a front brake as well as for training on the velodrome. What's a good compromise clincher rim that will suit both purposes as best possible? I'm thinking Mavic Open Pros...
I just went through this myself so I could start training standing starts in the park near me without worrying about flatting a tubular. I ended up building up a set of H+Son Archetypes to formula fix/fix flip flop hubs. They should be pretty bomb-proof. The only downside is the rims are anodized after machining the sidewall, so the use of a brake will rub the finish off eventually. They're extremely good quality, though. I used to use velocity for most of my builds, but sometimes they don't build easily.
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This is basically what I built up: H + Plus Son Archetype Black Formula Track hubs Wheelset [74106] - $239.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike
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Thanks all for your advice - I know what I need now!
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If anyone is interested, I think I found an incredible wheel deal: FREE SHIP 48 STATES* Fixie Track BIKE Wheelset PROMO SALE Vuelta Track PRO V Aluminum Wheelsets Alloy Hub Track Fixie Bike Wheels

They are 36 spokes on the rear and 32 spokes on the front. I ordered two sets and got one with a black rim and one with a white rim - both with black hubs and spokes. The hubs are fixed/free. I haven't ridden them yet (their for my winter fixie), but they feel pretty solid and the hub feels pretty smooth. The reason I got two sets is that they were only $50 a set!
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If anyone is interested, I think I found an incredible wheel deal: FREE SHIP 48 STATES* Fixie Track BIKE Wheelset PROMO SALE Vuelta Track PRO V Aluminum Wheelsets Alloy Hub Track Fixie Bike Wheels

They are 36 spokes on the rear and 32 spokes on the front. I ordered two sets and got one with a black rim and one with a white rim - both with black hubs and spokes. The hubs are fixed/free. I haven't ridden them yet (their for my winter fixie), but they feel pretty solid and the hub feels pretty smooth. The reason I got two sets is that they were only $50 a set!
Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a set!
See you Saturday!
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Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered a set!
See you Saturday!
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The rim tape looks pretty thin to me, so if you run at higher pressures I would suggest putting on some beefier tape.

Also, I'm not sure if you keep tabs on the track activities, but the Stagaires are invited to race this Friday night. I'll be there, but in stands watching.
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