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Old 06-14-19, 01:46 PM
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Old 06-14-19, 02:10 PM
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You think it is a good idea to let bigfoots own pets?
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Old 06-14-19, 03:56 PM
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You think it is a good idea to let bigfoots own pets?
Maybe the dog "owns" bigfoot... as a seeing eye helper.
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Old 06-14-19, 03:58 PM
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Actual crosswalks painted on roads would be a better idea.
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Old 06-14-19, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
Actual crosswalks painted on roads would be a better idea.
Count the actual crosswalks.
Count the painted crosswalks.

(Count the miles of roads without paint. Count the miles of roads with centerlines, curblines, anylines.)

Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint?

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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint?
No, it's always been that way. Signs decrease confusion, if properly designed.
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
No, it's always been that way. Signs decrease confusion, if properly designed.
“Yield to pedestrians in crosswalk”

Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both?

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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
“Yield to pedestrians in crosswalk”

Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both?

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I don't know, I'm not a traffic sign designer.
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
I don't know, I'm not a traffic sign designer.
But you are a crosswalk painter designer?

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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
But you are a crosswalk painter designer?

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No. Why do you ask?
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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
“Yield to pedestrians in crosswalk”

Properly designed, should such a sign be at every painted crosswalk, or every unpainted crosswalk, or both?

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The sign in the OP says Every intersection IS a crosswalk.
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Old 06-15-19, 07:17 AM
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I don't see the need for signs like "Every intersection is a crosswalk". With a few exceptions, such as "Traffic need to yield to pedestrians in crosswalk", pedestrians need to yield to traffic that is not under signage or signal control.
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That sign is an accurate statement of Oregon law. Unless there is a traffic light, the pedestrian always has the ROW at an intersection.
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Originally Posted by mr_bill View Post
Count the actual crosswalks.
Count the painted crosswalks.

(Count the miles of roads without paint. Count the miles of roads with centerlines, curblines, anylines.)

Are we really dumbing down the rules of the road where nobody can figure out what to do without paint?

-mr. bill
I don't get your point. That's an accurate statement of Oregon law, so it's informing drivers that the lack of paint is irrelevant. If they don't have a green light, they have to yield to the pedestrian at any intersection, paint or no paint.

Why we're discussing this sign on a cycling forum is another matter.
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Old 06-15-19, 09:12 AM
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That people are bickering over it, though is the pure essence of A&S on BF.
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Old 06-15-19, 11:22 AM
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Old 06-15-19, 11:41 AM
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Old 06-15-19, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
That sign is an accurate statement of Oregon law. Unless there is a traffic light, the pedestrian always has the ROW at an intersection.
I'm curious how that is applied with highways, not interstates, but regular 2 lane highways.
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Old 06-15-19, 01:58 PM
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Here , US 30 splits into 2_2 lane one ways through town and that , a 4 lane highway
is a half block from my house..


Californians need the law clearly stated..
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Old 06-16-19, 06:29 AM
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Intersections are designed for motor vehicles, and although designs for safe crosswalks can be integrated, they don't reliably manage the hazards of turning vehicles. Left turning motorists are focused mainly on on-coming traffic, while right turning motorists are often looking the wrong way. Mid-block signaled intersections are a solution to this. Eliminating the right-on-red laws would be another step in the right direction.

A quick glance at available stats show Oregon have reduced pedestrian fatalities in recent years so perhaps the signs had something to do with it.
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