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Old 02-16-19, 07:58 PM
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Help me price this bike

Howdy all.
It is time to scale down the herd so I'm trying to figure out the pricing on this bike. It is a quite unique Nishiki pro I picked in Japan while living there and actually labeled "made by Kawamura" on one of the chain stays, plus a pantographed Kawamura headset. It is made of chromoly 0.8 0.5 0.8 tubing and if that wasn't nice enough it is a chrome bike. The groupset is a mix; mostly Shimano Arabesque, Dia Compe G brakes, Sugino Mighty crank, early Dura Ace hubs on french rims, Selle Italia Canyon ssaddle, and Nitto world champion bars. Without pedals it is a sub 20# bike. Size (center to center) is 40.5cm seat tube, 41.5cm top tube, 32cm seat stays, 8cm stem.

I love the bike, but it is not my size by a long shot. I bought it as an impulse buy because of the gorgeous chrome frame and to this day I have never seen another chrome Nishiki. Heck if it was my size I would keep it as wall art I could use a few times a year

Anybody care to venture a guess?



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Old 02-16-19, 08:04 PM
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Old 02-16-19, 08:43 PM
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I don’t understand how those measurements can be right. What size are the wheels?
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Old 02-16-19, 08:48 PM
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That looks more like s 54 cm (seat tube) frame to me!
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Old 02-16-19, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
That looks more like s 54 cm (seat tube) frame to me!
me too
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Old 02-16-19, 11:18 PM
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Jesus, I can't believe I wrote that. I jotted notes on a piece of paper and got numbers mixed around. Still, knowing my size and knowing that my daughter's small frame is 49cm in size it should have cued me in...

51.4cm seat tube, 52.7cm top tube, center to center.
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Old 02-17-19, 02:59 AM
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One problem with the build is the brake levers and calipers don't match. You have aero levers with older calipers that have the cable opening on the left. So a normal routing doesn't quite work properly. I would simply use non-aero levers and then route the cable normally: left lever over the bar, left of the stem, directly to the caliper; and the right lever over the bar, right of stem, to the rear. Use those aeros for another project. And add a black saddle. This will make the build look a lot more "professional."

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Old 02-17-19, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
One problem with the build is the brake levers and calipers don't match. You have aero levers with older calipers that have the cable opening on the left. So a normal routing doesn't quite work properly. I would simply use non-aero levers and then route the cable normally: left lever over the bar, left of the stem, directly to the caliper; and the right lever over the bar, right of stem, to the rear. Use those aeros for another project. And add a black saddle. This will make the build look a lot more "professional."

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Were I to keep the bike I would sort it out. Heck it would be amazing with a Dura Ace 7300 group or at the very least a complete arabesque group. Neither makes sense if I'm not keeping the bike :-\
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at least 50 cents for sure
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Old 02-17-19, 12:39 PM
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Were I to keep the bike I would sort it out. Heck it would be amazing with a Dura Ace 7300 group or at the very least a complete arabesque group. Neither makes sense if I'm not keeping the bike :-\
I disagree. When the bike looks like a pro build, it's far easier to sell at a good price. Non-aero levers and new bar tape are inexpensive investments to flip this one at the price I would ask for it as a competent seller. The pink saddle should be easy to sell by itself to offset a black one. You always have to invest a little to get a lot more in return.

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Old 02-17-19, 01:29 PM
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I was gonna say, it looks more like a 52ish cm size.....
which is a good thing as it is not considered a really small size, so a larger market for it.
the Chrome finish definitely helps the value, as I think, that alone can easily guarantee an additional 75 to a 100 bucks market value, compared to a painted version of the same or similar model bike, as long as the chrome is in great condition, like it is on this bike. You add that chrome value to the baseline value of the bike in painted finish And you can have a rough idea how much it could sell...
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Old 02-17-19, 01:38 PM
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Put some new tires on it and, ask for $500.
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Old 02-17-19, 08:29 PM
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Looks to be Size is 52 high 54 length by my eye ball standard small/medium for when it was made Real nice bike I would sell the seat and pedals seperate for about $30 each on ebay and the bike $175-200 local Great bike but getting more will be a tough sell if it's your size keep and ride it.

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Old 02-19-19, 11:25 AM
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The “made by Kawamura” is typical on Nishikis and the Kawamura headset are not rare but are nice!

id sell the pink saddle separately as it has value by itself but not on the bike. Chrome is always good.

$300. Parted out via eBay could be $500+, maybe $600, less fees and headaches.
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Old 02-19-19, 01:29 PM
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You could always pay for a premium membership on BF and sell it here. Less of a headache than eBay but you won't get a premium here. I'd value that bike at closer to $400 given the condition and chrome but that can be a hard price to bet on CL (depending on location).

BTW, I like the bike stand in the dining room. You have a very understanding family . . . .
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