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Old 05-22-19, 02:46 PM
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Raleigh Super Course


The bike looks very nice, but this crankset just doesn't look like it belongs on a vintage bike. Kinda cheap looking. But I know zero about it....
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It looks exactly like the crankset I had on mine.


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That's the crankset they came with. The frame punches above it's weight.
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Thanks for the replies. The bike looks really nice, thinking of calling the OP that has it and riding it home. It's a 1973, hez asking 300 for it.
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Originally Posted by 308jerry View Post

The bike looks very nice, but this crankset just doesn't look like it belongs on a vintage bike. Kinda cheap looking. But I know zero about it....
Standard chrome cottered steel Stronglight, 10,000's of them have gone Bzillions of miles for decades, very oldschool status quo and plenty cool in a crude sort of way.
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There have been discussions on the forum and the sentiment is that though the SC's have straight gauge 531 vs. butted and weigh more, they feel lively and not heavy when ridden. I have two myself and I agree with that, they're great bikes.
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$300 for a Super Course? Whoa. Pricey. Later in the 70's this was the Super Course. Cotterless crank, 700c wheels, barend shifters. Thought this was a fair deal at $140. I added the saddle. Also replaced the hideous SunTour rear derailleur with a Simplex.
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I had a brown Super Course with that same crank. In the hills of the Bay Area, the thing flexed like a hula dancer. Had to replace with 600EX crank. Fixed most of the flex issue. Certainly a great riding bike.
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The asking price does seem high, but the Super Courses have a big following. And there really is nothing wrong with a steel cottered crank. They are durable and dependable, if not as light as modern cranks. After all, they had been used for decades, in racing as well as everyday riding.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
$300 for a Super Course? Whoa. Pricey. Later in the 70's this was the Super Course. Cotterless crank, 700c wheels, barend shifters. Thought this was a fair deal at $140. I added the saddle. Also replaced the hideous SunTour rear derailleur with a Simplex.
Oh absolutely, not paying that. It's a CL find and been for sale for a while. Just looks like a sweet bike to try to pick up. And it's my size...
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Originally Posted by 308jerry View Post
Thanks for the replies. The bike looks really nice, thinking of calling the OP that has it and riding it home. It's a 1973, hez asking 300 for it.
I have a 73 too and have the exact same crank. I paid 200 Canadian dollars for the bike. It was my first vintage buy and I may have paid too much. Having said that, it all depends on your local market.

Oh! and look carefully at the FD, the Simplex FD plastic attachment often breaks.

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Oh absolutely, not paying that. It's a CL find and been for sale for a while. Just looks like a sweet bike to try to pick up. And it's my size...
The early 70's ones are nice. Does it have Capella lugs, those are sweet. Easy swap to a cotterless crank.
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero View Post
I had a brown Super Course with that same crank. In the hills of the Bay Area, the thing flexed like a hula dancer. Had to replace with 600EX crank. Fixed most of the flex issue. Certainly a great riding bike.
Is the Shimano 600 EX a direct replacement? I should ask what else does it need? I do like the looks of that crank....
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
The early 70's ones are nice. Does it have Capella lugs, those are sweet. Easy swap to a cotterless crank.
Not sure what Capella lugs look like. It is a 73. And it is a lugged frame.....
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Old 05-22-19, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 308jerry View Post
Not sure what Capella lugs look like. It is a 73. And it is a lugged frame.....
Here is an image of my SC 73 with Capela lugs.

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Old 05-22-19, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fraba View Post
Here is an image of my SC 73 with Capela lugs.
Yep, looks similar to this one..
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Old 05-22-19, 05:32 PM
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They look like Nervex lugs to me, not Capella. Capella have round protrusions with a hole in it (look at the diag tube on the brown one). The green one has no round protrusions and I believe these are Nervex lugs.

As per this guy (https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retrora...percourse.html) 73 and 74 had Capella lugs and before they had Nervex. Are you sure of the year?

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In addition, you will find here (The Headbadge: Vintage Bicycle Resources) one of the most complete site I found about Raleigh bikes.
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Originally Posted by fraba View Post
They look like Nervex lugs to me, not Capella. Capella have round protrusions with a hole in it (look at the diag tube on the brown one). The green one has no round protrusions and I believe these are Nervex lugs.

As per this guy (https://www.sheldonbrown.com/retrora...percourse.html) 73 and 74 had Capella lugs and before they had Nervex. Are you sure of the year?
I'm following what you're saying about the difference between the two lugs. Thank you. And no I'm not sure of the year, other than the Nervex lugs were pre 73.
And I've looked at the links and to be honest I know so little about C and V that I can't make heads or tails of the info.
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It’s a ‘72. First year with simplex Prestige derailleurs last year with nervex professional lugs. Another giveaway is the “super course “ script on top tube that I see peeking out from one pic. From the pictures the bike is all original (even handlebar tape, cable housings, pedals, toe clips). It also looks to be in very good shape.
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More detailed photos of the components could help to determine the model year. Also, look for a serial number on the rear drop out - non drive side. With this number and photos, we could possibly find the model year.
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It’s a ‘72. First year with simplex Prestige derailleurs last year with nervex professional lugs. Another giveaway is the “super course “ script on top tube that I see peeking out from one pic. From the pictures the bike is all original (even handlebar tape, cable housings, pedals, toe clips). It also looks to be in very good shape.
You are right Slowride79, 71 and before they had Huret... So it's 72! Serial number should confirm.
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More detailed photos of the components could help to determine the model year. Also, look for a serial number on the rear drop out - non drive side. With this number and photos, we could possibly find the model year.
I'm 200 miles from the bike. We're headed to see it this weekend.
Here's some pics

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That looks like it’s gonna be a good one!
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I agree, this is a bike that looks to be in great shape. Components and decals tend to confirm it is a 1972. Parts all look original (rare to see original handlebar tape from 1972!!) except maybe for the saddle. Original saddle was a Brooks B15 and I am not sure this is a B15. Usually, the Brooks nameplate is riveted to the back of the saddle, not attached under like this one. But I am being picky here, the bike looks great.
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