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Old 05-30-19, 12:20 PM
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Worst TV dads all time?

1. Darth Vader
2. Tony Soprano
3. Al Bundy

honorable mention: Archie Bunker

Any suggestions?
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Old 05-30-19, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
1. Darth Vader
2. Tony Soprano
3. Al Bundy

honorable mention: Archie Bunker

Any suggestions?
Well, is Darth really a TV dad?

How about Homer Simpson, or Frank Gallagher from Shameless.
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Old 05-30-19, 01:05 PM
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Danny Devito's character Frank Reynolds on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
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Walter White?
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TV dads that are worse than what?
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Old 05-30-19, 01:53 PM
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Walter White?
A well-meaning but mis-understood, under-valued chemist. What's there not to like?
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Old 05-30-19, 02:03 PM
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In Game of Thrones, Stannis Baratheon burns his own daughter at the stake. That's gotta rank pretty high.
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Old 05-30-19, 02:21 PM
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In Game of Thrones, Stannis Baratheon burns his own daughter at the stake. That's gotta rank pretty high.
Tywin Lannister helped frame me for murder.
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Yeah, but you killed him while he was on the toilet, and that is nothing short of a grand equalizer.
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How about Bill Cosby?
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
Yeah, but you killed him while he was on the toilet, and that is nothing short of a grand equalizer.
A Lannister always pays his debts.
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The Terrible TV Dad has become the new normal. It's harder to think of a healthy role model for a TV dad nowadays.

I rarely watch any new shows so it's possible there are some good examples now. In the shows I used to watch, Tim "Toolman" Taylor was pretty good. But it also celebrated the manchild trope, with the woman expected to be the real foundation of the family and always supportive of the husband, rather than an equal relationship. My impression from a few minutes of watching Last Man Standing was that Tim Allen only got "worse" with age, in terms of dad portrayal.

Bernie Mac was the last great TV dad. Yeah, some dysfunctional stuff, but he made it work. Naturally, he had to die because it's impossible to balance repressed rage and humor so deftly without some cost to the human body.

Recently a drunk and overly enthusiastic guy bought a beer for me because I reminded him of William H. Macy in Shameless. I appreciated the beer, although I couldn't help feeling I'd just been the victim of an elaborate prank and insult. I could barely get through a YouTube worst-of-Frank Gallagher lowlight reel, let alone actually watch that show. If that's someone's idea of a relatable dad, we're in worse trouble than I'd realized.
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How about Bill Cosby?
The TV persona was pretty damned good. Too bad it was limited to the TV role. Now it's pretty much useless as any example.
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I saw Mother Juggs and Speed before the Cosby Show, knew better.
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worst don draper
best phil dunphy
best and worst peter griffin
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I will take Peter Griffin and Al Bundy over Jim Anderson any day. What a creeper.
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Originally Posted by Hondo Gravel View Post
1. Darth Vader
2. Tony Soprano
3. Al Bundy

honorable mention: Archie Bunker

Any suggestions?
Darth Vader always gets such a bad reputation... and why? He always acted rationally (unlike his kids), was honest with them, even offered to include them in the family business. The guy had both his legs cut off and was left for dead, and all he did was go out and become leader of the galaxy! Greatest dad ever?
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post

Bernie Mac was the last great TV dad. Yeah, some dysfunctional stuff, but he made it work. Naturally, he had to die because it's impossible to balance repressed rage and humor so deftly without some cost to the human body.
Bernie Mac was a great entertainer.
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When you say worst you're referring to actor or character?

Al Bundy was a pretty bad father, but the whole family was dysfunctional so its hard to tell. I guess I'll say Homer Simpson.
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Originally Posted by ridelikeaturtle View Post
Darth Vader always gets such a bad reputation... and why? He always acted rationally (unlike his kids), was honest with them, even offered to include them in the family business. The guy had both his legs cut off and was left for dead, and all he did was go out and become leader of the galaxy! Greatest dad ever?
Yup, I probably would have took Darth’s offer of ruling the galaxy. Even if he sliced off my hand with whatever you call that thing.
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Yup, I probably would have took Darth’s offer of ruling the galaxy. Even if he sliced off my hand with whatever you call that thing.
Even the chopping off of his son's hand... was only after the emotional little brat, having been radicalized by some dude in the desert and hanging out with criminals, came around to assassinate him! And yet he still offered him a partnership in the top job!

Let's not forget also that "chopping off a hand" sounds a lot worse in our reality, than in the sci-fi of Star Wars, where I'm sure Vader - from his own experience - knows you can get new ones made up. So this was really just like a "slap on the wrist", temporary, age-appropriate, and (compared to beheading, at least) practically non-violent. Good parenting, shows a lot of patience and restraint, and demonstrated boundaries.
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Originally Posted by canklecat View Post
The Terrible TV Dad has become the new normal. It's harder to think of a healthy role model for a TV dad nowadays.

I rarely watch any new shows so it's possible there are some good examples now. In the shows I used to watch, Tim "Toolman" Taylor was pretty good. But it also celebrated the manchild trope, with the woman expected to be the real foundation of the family and always supportive of the husband, rather than an equal relationship. My impression from a few minutes of watching Last Man Standing was that Tim Allen only got "worse" with age, in terms of dad portrayal.
+1 would be harder to find good dads.

Also Darth Vader is movies, not TV. Otherwise The Godfather would be right up there too for murdering his son.
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