64cm Carbon Frame? or Light Steel?
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gunnar will be quality tubing thats butted to match the frame's size.
soma smoothie is made with Tange Prestige, but they dont advertise the butting details and the devil is in the details. Also, Tange now is not tange from 30 years ago. Just a clarification.
The Kona Roadhouse has a 64cm stack height.
ill plug the Black Mountain cycles road frameset. Its inexpensive, well finished, uses quality heat treated butted tubing, and will be close to all but the most boutique of large steel frames. A carbon fork looks sharp on the frsmeset too.
i have a gravel frame and absolutely love it. Fantastic price for quality.
i just completed a handbuilt lugged steel frame that is 65cm. The frame and fork are right at 3000g +/- 50g. It will build up to be just under 21# when complete.
a carbon fork would cut almost 1.2# off the total, for what its worth.
i used Columbus Zona tubing that is .7/.5/.7 butted main tubes, .7 seat stays, and .8/.6 chainstays.
mentioning all this so you have a realistic idea of what steel will weigh.
soma smoothie is made with Tange Prestige, but they dont advertise the butting details and the devil is in the details. Also, Tange now is not tange from 30 years ago. Just a clarification.
The Kona Roadhouse has a 64cm stack height.
ill plug the Black Mountain cycles road frameset. Its inexpensive, well finished, uses quality heat treated butted tubing, and will be close to all but the most boutique of large steel frames. A carbon fork looks sharp on the frsmeset too.
i have a gravel frame and absolutely love it. Fantastic price for quality.
i just completed a handbuilt lugged steel frame that is 65cm. The frame and fork are right at 3000g +/- 50g. It will build up to be just under 21# when complete.
a carbon fork would cut almost 1.2# off the total, for what its worth.
i used Columbus Zona tubing that is .7/.5/.7 butted main tubes, .7 seat stays, and .8/.6 chainstays.
mentioning all this so you have a realistic idea of what steel will weigh.
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il massimo makes some nice steel frames in 64cm, and right now many are very affordable.
Steel Road Bike Frames Made in Italy!
Steel Road Bike Frames Made in Italy!
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gunnar will be quality tubing thats butted to match the frame's size.
soma smoothie is made with Tange Prestige, but they dont advertise the butting details and the devil is in the details. Also, Tange now is not tange from 30 years ago. Just a clarification.
The Kona Roadhouse has a 64cm stack height.
ill plug the Black Mountain cycles road frameset. Its inexpensive, well finished, uses quality heat treated butted tubing, and will be close to all but the most boutique of large steel frames. A carbon fork looks sharp on the frsmeset too.
i have a gravel frame and absolutely love it. Fantastic price for quality.
i just completed a handbuilt lugged steel frame that is 65cm. The frame and fork are right at 3000g +/- 50g. It will build up to be just under 21# when complete.
a carbon fork would cut almost 1.2# off the total, for what its worth.
i used Columbus Zona tubing that is .7/.5/.7 butted main tubes, .7 seat stays, and .8/.6 chainstays.
mentioning all this so you have a realistic idea of what steel will weigh.
soma smoothie is made with Tange Prestige, but they dont advertise the butting details and the devil is in the details. Also, Tange now is not tange from 30 years ago. Just a clarification.
The Kona Roadhouse has a 64cm stack height.
ill plug the Black Mountain cycles road frameset. Its inexpensive, well finished, uses quality heat treated butted tubing, and will be close to all but the most boutique of large steel frames. A carbon fork looks sharp on the frsmeset too.
i have a gravel frame and absolutely love it. Fantastic price for quality.
i just completed a handbuilt lugged steel frame that is 65cm. The frame and fork are right at 3000g +/- 50g. It will build up to be just under 21# when complete.
a carbon fork would cut almost 1.2# off the total, for what its worth.
i used Columbus Zona tubing that is .7/.5/.7 butted main tubes, .7 seat stays, and .8/.6 chainstays.
mentioning all this so you have a realistic idea of what steel will weigh.
https://www.bikeforums.net/framebuil...e-quality.html
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here's a link that includes an explanation of the tubing Some uses.
https://www.bikeforums.net/framebuil...e-quality.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/framebuil...e-quality.html
This also doesnt take into account the butting profile which matters a lot for weight and feel.
But anyways- interesting thread you linked.
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That said, I know some cyclists who ride a stock frame that the bike shop set up with "custom" sized stem/bars/groupset/saddle/wheels, and say their bike is "custom."
I just nod my head and smile.
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perhaps the two of you need more time out there on your respective saddles. Replace that energy with something more positive. Happy riding.
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Kind of ironic that you called someone a Luddite for not jumping on the cf wagon yet you are not down with the new Futureshock technology...
Almost all new tech goes through growing pains. Cf certainly did.
Almost all new tech goes through growing pains. Cf certainly did.
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Maybe your time would be better spent out on the road.
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And as I suspected, the "Futureshock" technology has had some issues,
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Why are you commenting on a thread that's been dead for 11 months?
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The Canyon Endurace comes in a XXL size, it features a 610mm seat-tube and a 607mm virtual top-tube length. I have the XL and these fit even bigger riders than the dimensions might indicate.
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