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Taking the full road on descents

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Old 04-07-21, 01:00 PM
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If there are cars parked on the side of the road I'm riding in the middle of the lane, regardless. Ive had too many near misses with people and car doors to risk it.
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With the exception of a couple of roads with very wide shoulders, I always take the lane and move over when necessary, especially true on descents.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
The full road? You mean you want to take up all the lanes? How will you do that?
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Originally Posted by Andy Somnifac
Pissing off drivers during a descent really isn't a concern for me. My safety is worth more than the minor slowdown they may experience.
Overall this is the correct way to look at it. But it's also important to remember driving makes people irritable, puts them in a hurry, and most drivers feel entitled to the road and believe bikes should be on the sidewalk and ridden by children. I think most people in here have the same experience, drivers aren't homicidal maniacs, and will tolerate momentary inconvenience. The longer it lasts, the more than vein in their forehead starts throbbing.

None of this is to blame cyclists for anything, it's just good to remember rock beats scissors and to work together in harmony and understanding. Sun Tzu stuff.

I really like my Varia radar. I can't hear cars while I descend unless they're right behind me, or the driver is obnoxious enough to use the horn. I don't look behind me that much while descending, I like to watch my line for railroad ties 🙂 and watch side streets, stuff like that. The radar thing grabs my attention. I feel a lot more entitled to be anywhere on my side of the road knowing there aren't cars behind me. I also like knowing how many, and how they're spaced. I've heard of cyclists winding up in the hospital because they thought there was only one car behind them.
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Is the question how fast to go before passing slower vehicles?

I can remember those days when I could ride fast.

What a thrill!
Skipping around a car...
Or in between...
Or jumping up on the curb to get around a door just to blast off down the road...

Nice feeling!
Kinda like those days when we rode without a helmet...

42 Mph does sound nice!
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I don't feel it is ever safe to take the opposite side of the road to traffic flow. Unless you are a salmon in a stream you should not go against traffic. Obviously if you slip out of your lane accidentally it happens or if you have to do it to remain safe because of a car being a jerk or something blocking the road or a piece of the road is missing, that is fine. However I wouldn't make a habit of it.

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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I really like my Varia radar. I can't hear cars while I descend unless they're right behind me, or the driver is obnoxious enough to use the horn. I don't look behind me that much while descending, I like to watch my line for railroad ties 🙂 and watch side streets, stuff like that. The radar thing grabs my attention. I feel a lot more entitled to be anywhere on my side of the road knowing there aren't cars behind me. I also like knowing how many, and how they're spaced. I've heard of cyclists winding up in the hospital because they thought there was only one car behind them.
I have just learned that the Varia is compatible with my Wahoo Bolt, and has been added to my "I need this" list.
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Old 04-07-21, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert A
I'll take more and more of the lane as speed and safety dictate, but I'll try to allow cars to pass when I can. The decision to move further into the lane is unrelated to posted speed limits, but is instead based on need.
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Originally Posted by Doomrider74
When you say "the full road", I hope you mean the lane, because you shouldn't be crossing over to the other side of the road under any circumstances.

And come to a full stop at every stop sign, and never blow a snot rocket, and always announce when passing. Thanks grandma.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
And come to a full stop at every stop sign, and never blow a snot rocket, and always announce when passing. Thanks grandma.
so you're advocating riding head on into oncoming traffic? Good luck with that.
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Originally Posted by superdex
/thread.
This is the road forum. We need 10 or 15 more pages with this horse.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
We need 10 or 15 more pages with this horse.
Alive, if possible. Dead, just as good.

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Old 04-08-21, 08:21 AM
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Well the OP still isn't helping explain what they meant by "full road" or whether they are riding on Interstate Hwy that is winding down through the mountain valley with 80 mph traffic and bumper to bumper or not.

In fact the OP is absent. Maybe the OP took the full road in the wrong place.
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Old 04-08-21, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Doomrider74
so you're advocating riding head on into oncoming traffic? Good luck with that.
Just because a road has lanes going in both directions doesn't mean there are always cars present in the lane going the other way. On a mountain road descent, I have - on occasion - used part of the opposing lane to widen my turn arc when it's clear that it's completely safe to do so. I have - on occasion - ridden into the opposing lane to get around a slow or stopped car when it's clear that it's completely safe to do so. I have done the same thing while driving my car, too.
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
Descending >30mph on an often debris-strewn shoulder, especially with cars passing within a foot or two? No thanks.

AFAS taking the whole road: narrow, winding, adequate sight lines- yes.
^this.

Taking the lane is the only safe thing to do.
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Old 04-11-21, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01
The full road? You mean you want to take up all the lanes? How will you do that?
Two words: pool noodles. Of course, they should be truncated airfoil shaped pool noodles.
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Carbon pool noodles weigh less but alloy ones don't asplode.
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