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break a few good winds, butttt you'll need to build up that ammo.. then after farting, take a different route. If you shart, post back so we can tell you how to hopefully desoil your seat skids.
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I'm definitely annoyed by someone I don't know rolling up on my wheel or jumping on it when I pass them and not saying anything. Maybe they have no clue about the rules of cycling, maybe they don't care. Either way I will slow up and let them know that I think what they're doing is both rude and unsafe. I definitely will not turn it into some stupid game of trying to drop them.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels
I went out for a ride in a long stretch of road. Mostly flat, no wind so things are pretty fast.
Another cyclist decided to draft behind me the entire time. Problem was they're too close for comfort, only few feet behind.
I'm aware that pro peloton goes that close. But if you don't trust the guy behind you is quite proficient at close quarters drafting, you don't wan't them on your back, especially, in the presence of vehicular traffic.
Another cyclist decided to draft behind me the entire time. Problem was they're too close for comfort, only few feet behind.
I'm aware that pro peloton goes that close. But if you don't trust the guy behind you is quite proficient at close quarters drafting, you don't wan't them on your back, especially, in the presence of vehicular traffic.
Originally Posted by cubewheels
The rider was considerably slower. I started far behind him until I caught up and passed. I was thinking of slowing down to let him pass but given his slower pace before, he'll likely drop speed and I have to pass him again.
Sprinting sounds like a good solution but I'm still under training, trying to master my sprint technique! Definitely will try it as I get really good at it.
If I do sprint, how far ahead should I be so the rider behind me doesn't get any draft benefit? I don't need to get way far ahead I suppose as I still need to conserve my energy to maintain cruising pace.
Sprinting sounds like a good solution but I'm still under training, trying to master my sprint technique! Definitely will try it as I get really good at it.
If I do sprint, how far ahead should I be so the rider behind me doesn't get any draft benefit? I don't need to get way far ahead I suppose as I still need to conserve my energy to maintain cruising pace.
Every time I pass someone there is an opportunity for that person or group of riders to jump on my wheel. I can always choose communications and tell them I prefer that they do not draft me. Pretty simple. I have done that and it is amazing the responses one gets. Hence, I prefer not to have the discussion. Much like the internet and this discussion - so much is a matter of opinion.
If I am closing the gap to another cyclist up the road, my approach is to increase speed and pass at a much faster pace and hold that increased speed for 30 seconds or so. This is not a sprint per se just an acceleration. It is unlikely that the rider I am passing will be motivated or able to close a gap that is rapidly increasing in distance.
If they do, and I do not want them to draft me, then there are a myriad of ways including direct communication to solve the problem or since they were able to accelerate, catch me and hold my speed, all aboard.
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat
Snot rockets. 
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Originally Posted by aplcr0331
I'll take, "things that never happened" for $600 Alex.
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If some aspclown is tailgating me in my car, I will pull over and let them go tailgate the next guy. Are they being rewarded? Sure but at least I don’t get rear ended. Same on my bike or I have a quick chat with them. I have passed many miles chatting with a rider of similar ability which sure made the miles go by faster.Man: Is this the right room for an argument?
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Originally Posted by Riveting
One time (pre-Covid) some asshat did this to me while I was drafting him, uninvited. I can assure everyone that this method works.
Dont be a drafter. Dodge others.
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Do it the same way you get rid of a tailgater on the interstate...... BRAKE CHECK. (j/k)
Seriously, slow down so they pass or speed up and drop them.
Seriously, slow down so they pass or speed up and drop them.
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Originally Posted by aplcr0331
I'll take, "things that never happened" for $600 Alex.
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Ride a trike or a bent. Nobody will ever draft you again.
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
I drafted your mother last night, Trebek. I was behind her for ten minutes and she didn't mind it one bit!
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Too many inconsiderate obnoxious cyclists out there. I have politely asked them to drop off for various reasons. Many get upset and argue how they aren't hurting you, not in your way, not bothering you and so on. But yes, there are times when one wants to be alone like after the death of a family member, sibling, parent.
So if someone asks you to drop off, maybe there is good reason, be polite.
I have had guys argue stupid reasons then had to pull over and stop. So do wheelsuckers affect one's ride? Yes!
I don't understand myself. I go out for exercise and a workout. Why should I take anybody's wheel unless it's a race or an organized group ride?
So if someone asks you to drop off, maybe there is good reason, be polite.
I have had guys argue stupid reasons then had to pull over and stop. So do wheelsuckers affect one's ride? Yes!
I don't understand myself. I go out for exercise and a workout. Why should I take anybody's wheel unless it's a race or an organized group ride?
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Wait until you get to a section of road with a cross-wind. Ride very close to the down-wind side of the paved roadway. That way he gets no draft without going off-road, which he won't want to do at drafting speeds. Go ahead and hammer it while he's out in the wind.
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat
Snot rockets.
Usually I just pull over, not that I get a lot of drafters anyway.
Usually I just pull over, not that I get a lot of drafters anyway.
Quick, erratic movements makes them back off as well.
Guess that is one of the few benefits of getting older, i don't get any drafters these days.
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12-14-20, 05:50 PM
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I’m going to make a distinction. If you’re out on a solo ride or JRA I think its rude to just start drafting or join a group without asking.
But in events like a century or tour, I would expect people to draft and I’m fine with it. Although, I will usually announce that I’m there. If you’re doing an event with lots of other riders you shouldn’t be yelling at people to stop drafting you, that’s poor form (unless its a TT).
But in events like a century or tour, I would expect people to draft and I’m fine with it. Although, I will usually announce that I’m there. If you’re doing an event with lots of other riders you shouldn’t be yelling at people to stop drafting you, that’s poor form (unless its a TT).
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So, looked at the other way, what do you do if you're on a long, slight descent, and roll up on someone obviously fitter than yourself who will smoke you at the next rise, so there's no point in passing them, and in fact it might annoy them (see #19 above). Do you just go ahead and pass because you're going faster AT THE MOMENT, knowing they'll pass you again as soon as the road tilts up? Or sit up, feather the brakes, pull off to the side out of their draft, and keep hanging out there till they finally have the advantage and pull away?
Because I'm a large guy this actually happens to me a bit. It's especially a problem with female riders, because on the one hand I don't want to be That Guy, who has to pass them just because they're women but then can't stay ahead because he's just not that good, while on the other I don't want to be That Other Guy who hangs out behind them and creeps them out.
Or am I thinking too much?
Because I'm a large guy this actually happens to me a bit. It's especially a problem with female riders, because on the one hand I don't want to be That Guy, who has to pass them just because they're women but then can't stay ahead because he's just not that good, while on the other I don't want to be That Other Guy who hangs out behind them and creeps them out.
Or am I thinking too much?
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Originally Posted by billridesbikes
I’m going to make a distinction. If you’re out on a solo ride or JRA I think its rude to just start drafting or join a group without asking.
But in events like a century or tour, I would expect people to draft and I’m fine with it. Although, I will usually announce that I’m there. If you’re doing an event with lots of other riders you shouldn’t be yelling at people to stop drafting you, that’s poor form (unless its a TT).
But in events like a century or tour, I would expect people to draft and I’m fine with it. Although, I will usually announce that I’m there. If you’re doing an event with lots of other riders you shouldn’t be yelling at people to stop drafting you, that’s poor form (unless its a TT).
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Just wobble and ride erratically.
I was once on a crowded bike path, and an entire peloton of roadies got behind me but couldn't pass. I casually mentioned to the leader: "Are you aware that you're drafting a geezer on a three-speed?"
I was once on a crowded bike path, and an entire peloton of roadies got behind me but couldn't pass. I casually mentioned to the leader: "Are you aware that you're drafting a geezer on a three-speed?"
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Originally Posted by GlennR
Do it the same way you get rid of a tailgater on the interstate...... BRAKE CHECK. (j/k)
Seriously, slow down so they pass or speed up and drop them.
Seriously, slow down so they pass or speed up and drop them.
If I am riding fixed and know I have someone on my wheel I ride accordingly. But I love riding alone and not having to do that.
Just remembered this happened once. Seattle many years ago. 6am. Riding to work through a park with a bike trail. I'd passed a much slower rider a while before. Came to a tight angle turn and resisted the pedal to slow just enough to make it. No contact, but I heard a huge commotion behind me. He didn't crash but I scared the **** out of him, probably literally.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
The day is going to come when I do an automatic reflex slow on my fix gear (for an animal, kid, car, etc.), only to find out I have an uninvited guest on my wheel when I feel the slight nudge on my rear tire and hear the crash. People don't get that if something rolls out onto the street, my brain to leg muscle reflex is far faster than the reach for a brake lever, then anything actually happening. Yes, brakes have far more stopping power - after they have engaged. By that time the rider behind is down.
If I am riding fixed and know I have someone on my wheel I ride accordingly. But I love riding alone and not having to do that.
Just remembered this happened once. Seattle many years ago. 6am. Riding to work through a park with a bike trail. I'd passed a much slower rider a while before. Came to a tight angle turn and resisted the pedal to slow just enough to make it. No contact, but I heard a huge commotion behind me. He didn't crash but I scared the **** out of him, probably literally.
If I am riding fixed and know I have someone on my wheel I ride accordingly. But I love riding alone and not having to do that.
Just remembered this happened once. Seattle many years ago. 6am. Riding to work through a park with a bike trail. I'd passed a much slower rider a while before. Came to a tight angle turn and resisted the pedal to slow just enough to make it. No contact, but I heard a huge commotion behind me. He didn't crash but I scared the **** out of him, probably literally.
If you're so close that you can't react to them on the brakes.... your too close.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
So, looked at the other way, what do you do if you're on a long, slight descent, and roll up on someone obviously fitter than yourself who will smoke you at the next rise, so there's no point in passing them, and in fact it might annoy them (see #19 above). Do you just go ahead and pass because you're going faster AT THE MOMENT, knowing they'll pass you again as soon as the road tilts up? Or sit up, feather the brakes, pull off to the side out of their draft, and keep hanging out there till they finally have the advantage and pull away?
Because I'm a large guy this actually happens to me a bit. It's especially a problem with female riders, because on the one hand I don't want to be That Guy, who has to pass them just because they're women but then can't stay ahead because he's just not that good, while on the other I don't want to be That Other Guy who hangs out behind them and creeps them out.
Or am I thinking too much?
Because I'm a large guy this actually happens to me a bit. It's especially a problem with female riders, because on the one hand I don't want to be That Guy, who has to pass them just because they're women but then can't stay ahead because he's just not that good, while on the other I don't want to be That Other Guy who hangs out behind them and creeps them out.
Or am I thinking too much?
But I get where you're coming from. I've had a situation where I was out doing 3' intervals and I kept catching up to and passing a female racer who was just riding steady tempo. Then I'd sit up for the recovery interval and she'd go by. I thought about saying something like "sorry, I'm not a creep, I'm just doing intervals!" but decided against it when I thought that would be even weirder.
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Originally Posted by Hermes
How far is a few feet? If someone is 1 to 2 feet behind me that is a lot different from 5 to 10 feet or to say it another way, 1 to 2 bike lengths. Generally, I am not concerned with riders a bike length or 2 behind me.
Every time I pass someone there is an opportunity for that person or group of riders to jump on my wheel. I can always choose communications and tell them I prefer that they do not draft me. Pretty simple. I have done that and it is amazing the responses one gets. Hence, I prefer not to have the discussion. Much like the internet and this discussion - so much is a matter of opinion.
If I am closing the gap to another cyclist up the road, my approach is to increase speed and pass at a much faster pace and hold that increased speed for 30 seconds or so. This is not a sprint per se just an acceleration. It is unlikely that the rider I am passing will be motivated or able to close a gap that is rapidly increasing in distance.
If they do, and I do not want them to draft me, then there are a myriad of ways including direct communication to solve the problem or since they were able to accelerate, catch me and hold my speed, all aboard.
Every time I pass someone there is an opportunity for that person or group of riders to jump on my wheel. I can always choose communications and tell them I prefer that they do not draft me. Pretty simple. I have done that and it is amazing the responses one gets. Hence, I prefer not to have the discussion. Much like the internet and this discussion - so much is a matter of opinion.
If I am closing the gap to another cyclist up the road, my approach is to increase speed and pass at a much faster pace and hold that increased speed for 30 seconds or so. This is not a sprint per se just an acceleration. It is unlikely that the rider I am passing will be motivated or able to close a gap that is rapidly increasing in distance.
If they do, and I do not want them to draft me, then there are a myriad of ways including direct communication to solve the problem or since they were able to accelerate, catch me and hold my speed, all aboard.
I watch TdF races where riders drafted that close. But those guys are pros and quite well backed up by their teams and the event if anything goes wrong. But we were solo riders.
Today I simply did hill circuits to take my mind off drafters.
I don't draft (not anymore for a long time). During high speed cruise, I'm not closer than 2 bike lengths than the guy in front of me. Way farther than that during downhills.
I tried drafting behind other riders before when I just got into and quite new with cycling but I noticed how many seemed annoyed by the practice so I stopped doing it.
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Originally Posted by caloso
You may be overthinking. No one's going to think it's weird if a high-mass rider passes on a descent, only to be caught on the next uphill. What would be weird is feathering brakes to stay behind another rider if you could pass safely.
But I get where you're coming from. I've had a situation where I was out doing 3' intervals and I kept catching up to and passing a female racer who was just riding steady tempo. Then I'd sit up for the recovery interval and she'd go by. I thought about saying something like "sorry, I'm not a creep, I'm just doing intervals!" but decided against it when I thought that would be even weirder.
But I get where you're coming from. I've had a situation where I was out doing 3' intervals and I kept catching up to and passing a female racer who was just riding steady tempo. Then I'd sit up for the recovery interval and she'd go by. I thought about saying something like "sorry, I'm not a creep, I'm just doing intervals!" but decided against it when I thought that would be even weirder.
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This thread is gold.
Me personally if I wasn't willing to just say "hey could you not draft behind me, please" or at least strike up a conversation would either start singing some with my absolute best singing voice "ANNNNNNNDDDD IIIIIIYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIII WHIIIILLL ALWAAAYS LUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHVE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOO" and if my golden pipes don't work I would have my brown ops team take care of the rest with a nice SBD blast.
Me personally if I wasn't willing to just say "hey could you not draft behind me, please" or at least strike up a conversation would either start singing some with my absolute best singing voice "ANNNNNNNDDDD IIIIIIYYYYYYYIIIIIIIIIIIII WHIIIILLL ALWAAAYS LUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHVE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOO" and if my golden pipes don't work I would have my brown ops team take care of the rest with a nice SBD blast.
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