jyl

I apologize for starting a thread on this bike in Appraisals, but now I've bought it, so I decided to come here.

My son is 15. He has had some nice C&V roadbikes, first my 1971 Peugeot and now a. 1974 Raleigh Gran Sport. He has asked for a road bike to ride to high school, in place of his middle school hybrid-with-wire-basket. So I've been looking for a road bike that is pretty cheap, not a theft magnet, but has some modicum of cool.

I've looked at lots of dogs on CL. It is summer in Portland. Every rusty Varsity is worth $150, anything with butted tubing of any quality level is $300+. I was getting discouraged and thinking about building up the PX10 for his school ride.

Problem solved. Today I saw this bike, called, and bought it.

I am not completely sure what it is. It is a Peugeot, with windowed lugs and the remains of a Columbus decal. I think that could make it a 1988 or later but I haven't really found its match in the catalogs. It was a "Tout Mavic" bike, with Mavic MA 40 rims, hubs (I think Mavic. 500? Not looked closely yet), crank, stem, headset, brakes. I think the brake levers may be non original. The shifters are Simplex retrofriction. The seatpost is not Mavic. Not sure about the bar. The FD and RD have been changed out to Ultegra, and the FW is a wide range. I have the original FW and the seller will give me the original RD if he finds it. I have some Mavic derailleurs in the bin . . .

It is decent looking except for lots of rust on the chrome fork crown, which I'll find some creative way to handle.

Only one pic so far, I will take better ones.

Chombi

I think it's a Euro only model called the "Perthus". Miamijim could confirm.... It's like the top of the line (or very close to it) Peugeot for that model year. In VGC, I think that bike could easily sell towards $1K...and more to a classic Peugeot/Mavic collector...
Might be too nice for a daily highschool ride as it is prime bike theif bait..... unless your son can park it inside the classrooms and never take his eyes off it.....

due ruote 

+1 to the above. I would buy a really good lock. Nice looking bike.

jyl

Some parts look nice. I like the color.











But the condition is rough on the front end. Maybe I'll leave it looking that way. I can treat the rust with POR-15 but leave it looking black and unsightly.





Was the Perthus, if that is what it is, equipped with tout Mavic?

The front rim has been replaced, the original dark anodized Mavic rim is still on the rear. I have an MA40 that will match up with the rear rim pretty well.

The bar is Mavic. Shame the Mavic stem is so short.

Seems the seatpost would have been Mavic originally?

He has a Krytonite U-lock and is good about using it. I might install some Pitlocks in place of the QRs.

neo_pop_71

Serious bike thieves will know what that bike is, they make their living thieving frames and parts, and a Krypto lock will not stop them... that bike will be jacked if the bike cages are exposed like they are the high school where I teach. The only lock on the market that hasn't been beat is the TiGR lock. TiGR was a Kickstarter idea a couple years ago, an older father and son who are lock fanatics devised a titanium bow and tumbler lock that can't be cut, sprung with a hydraulic jack, nor picked. The design is genius the way it's mounted, it weighs a fraction of a bulky lock, and it can securely lock both wheels and the frame without needing to remove either wheel... like I said genius! Urban riders from all over the world, messengers, you name it pre-ordered the TiGR lock and there is an endless sea of praise by riders, magazines, etc. declaring this the single best lock ever. It's pricey but in almost all cases, the bike is worth considerably more, plus the lack of thefts proves it works. I would trust that beautiful Mavic Pug at his high school with a TiGR lock. It's available at REI, Amazon, some better LBS, and through their website; the lock comes in 2 different Ti bow thicknesses and a few different lengths. A couple of the "fixie" kids where I work ride Cinelli and Bianchi track bikes, legit racers and not some cheesy conversion, they lock their bikes with TiGR locks... no thefts after 2 or 3 years thank to TiGR locks!

Here is a link:

https://tigrlock.com/

Here is a photo to help understand how the lock works (beautifully):

Narhay

And if you order within the next 5 minutes we will double your order! That's right, TWO entire unbeatable TiGR lock systems for the price of one can be yours today for just 4 easy payments of $129.99. Don't hesitate, order now.

MrCoffee

A TiGr lock can be defeated in a matter of minutes with an angle grinder. It would give some lead time, but I would not ride the Peugeot unless I could carry it with me at all times, everywhere I went in the school. It would be better to ride the bus than to have the bike stolen.

neo_pop_71

Hey brother, it's totally cool... I feel for you (really I do). I've had 3 bikes stolen that were locked up with the biggest and best locks of the day and that has sucked every single time! Ever since I got my TiGR lock 2 years ago, I take any bike from my stable without thought because every single time this lock has proven itself! I simply offered up a possible solution for jyl to consider, given my suggestion was totally appropriate relative to his concern for the bike's safety... you should go pound sand, chump!!!

neo_pop_71

Wrong! There is a demo video of an angle grinder being taken to a TiGR lock... Google it!

https://www.wired.com/2012/06/tigr-bike-lock/

To show off its ruggedness, Loughlin took to YouTube, posting videos of himself attacking the lock with a hacksaw, an angle grinder, bolt cutters, and a car jack. In each instance, the TiGr beat a standard U-lock.

Sure, if the thief really wanted the bike, that's exactly what I stated in my opening statement above. My Zaskar race bike was stolen in college by a thief that used liquid nitrogen to freeze the lock and then shatter it. If the thieves want the bike bad enough they'll get it, the lock is the obstacle... and hopefully the thief moves on to a less difficult bike and the TiGR lock did it's job.

jimmuller 

I'd pass on the TiGr Lock but I'd sure ride that bike. I agree that it is a great theft target. DO NOT LEAVE IT ANYWHERE THINKING NO ONE WILL WANT IT. Even if the frame itself can't be stolen easily, parts can be removed easily and quickly.

SJX426 

@jyl - Those do look like Mavic 500/1 hubs with the original skewers. If you don't want the sewers, I do!

Use OA on the fork. When you take it apart to clean and lube the HS, just stick the whole fork in the OA for 24 hours. You will be amazed at the difference. No rust left at all. Then wax

jyl

I like the TiGR lock but they cost more than the bike . . . Maybe I'll have him keep a U-lock on the rack as well as carrying one, so the bike is double U-locked at school. The bike rack is at the main doors of the school, not the worst location.

I assume this was a late 1980s bike? So the RD would have been Mavic 851?

He asked for pedals that would let him use regular shoes or his SPD shoes. I have some Wellgo WP95D in the parts bin. The cranks are French thread, so I need to make a trip to the LBS for tapping. I really should buy my own pedal taps.

He also asked for shifting on the handlebars. His prior road bike had bar-ends, and his current one has brifters. I do think that for urban commuting, shifting on the bars makes sense. I guess I could move the shifters to bar-end pods.

MrCoffee

While looking up and studying about locks, I did find some very useful information. According to at least one article I read, 90% of the bike thieves are drug addicts and winos. In addition to drugs, cash, booze and prostitutes, bikes are also a form of currency on the street. A low-life with tools can break a cheap lock on a Huffy or Pacific, then turn around and sell it for $40.00 to buy booze at the corner liquor store, or trade it for some rocks from his dope dealer. So for that, I would say that it is the responsibility of us GOOD people, to not let the street people have access to something that would enable them to support their bad habits.

Regardless of the type of lock, no matter how strong it is, there's always something that can cut it unless it had the same hardness as a diamond. if someone wants that Peugeot bad enough, they'll get it somehow if it is not kept under close watch. I once had a Peugeot like the OP has, only it was a maroon PGN-10 that would be extremely difficult to acquire these days. It was stolen right from my grandmother's garage after my brother left it there for a few minutes after a ride. Sure, her homeowner's insurance reimbursed me for the replacement cost. But that bike was also the last one the dealer had, so there were none available. It would have been far easier to find a Schwinn Stingray in pristine condition.

Chombi

Yes, later 80's I think, This bike came from Peugeot with the all silver clear anodized 630 crank and the also all silver 801 RD/FD set, and the all silver, clear anodized brakeset sourced from Modolo. So not the SSC group, but it's really just the dark anodizing and some white "SSC" silk screening that makes the SSC components....SSC, otherwise, the 801 and 851 SSC RDs are pretty much identical under the anodizing, Same goes for the crankset..... Remember, it was the early/mid 80's and dark anodizing was believed to add an MPH or two to you bike, every time!
Here's the 801 RD/FD combo as mounted on my Peugeot PSV:

jyl

Alaso, no 801/851 laying around. This needs to be a parts bin build, so I will use some 840/860 derailleurs that I have in the bin. Also have some 440 levers. It willl be a mish-mash Mavic bike :-(

Narhay

Perhaps you'd like a dose of your own pill. I'm not the one spouting abusive names (nice edit), sounding like a shill, and calling MrCoffee ignorant.

oldskoolwrench

Hey... if everything works, then all is good! The only ones who will really know are you and your son. Others in the know will applaud your spirit in keeping everything Mavic (pedals... are pedals ). And, definitely spin up that MA-40 rim for it, too! Sounds like your son will do fine with his U-lock at school, as long as he exercises sound judgement about where he locks the bike up. The pitlocks are also a nice touch; I know you'll stash the QR skewers...

jyl

The QRs are kind of rusty. They will be stashed in a bucket of oxalic acid for awhile.

Oh, just a thought. Has anyone drilled a hole through a QR lever (not a Mavic QR, I hasten to add) and used a small padlock through the QR and around the stay or fork? (Trying to keep this budget - it is starting to look like the locking devices will cost more than the bike.)

BentLink

The MAVIC is really smooth and the Columbus SLX frame very nice! I've got a PX10 in the same vintage. The cranks leave very little ankle clearance for me, but work if I'm careful.
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MetinUz

How do you propose to secure the nut on the other side?

Fahrenheit531 

5 Seconds. No fancy tricks required.

Steve Whitlatch 

Nice find. Now when are you going to get the kid a commuter?

Wildwood 

and a respectable rain bike. He'll be a better bike addict if he learns early. N+1

jyl

I wouldn't, but I think the average junkie tweaker might go to the next wheel.

jyl

With this one, n (son) = 4. But soon to = 3. His old ten speed which we keep for sentimental reasons. His former school bike, a boring and now-too-small hybrid that we are going to give away. His current road bike. And now the school bike; it has to be the rain bike too, some RaceBlades are in its future.