Abu Mahendra

...in fact, if Paul sold in Indonesia I'd ask to buy a frame (with v-brake bosses) only...

gfc56

Good to hear. How soon will this folding bike be available for purchase. Thanks

blakcloud

On paper that bike is great. Mid motor, carbon fiber, disk brakes and aesthetically it is quite pleasing. I think you have a winner here.

avole

Except you own the company. So, this is advertising. Is there not a trade section where you can promote your wares with your « informational » posts?

Also, the fold is considerably larger than, say, a Brompton or the forthcoming Helix, of which, for me anyway, the former is the benchmark for folding bikes.

ttakata73

It looks cool to me and am OK with learning about a new bike. Maybe in a future revision the battery could hang under the frame or go in front of the motor to free up rack space. Price doesn't seem too crazy to me since it's carbon and powered.

Revoltingest

Nice looking well thought out design.
Fenders?

Pinigis 

I have been looking at fender options, but nothing yet

Joe Remi

You've already been advised to take it to the moderators, so quit clogging up this thread with your whining. Thor got popped for being a dealer promoting bikes he had for sale, Pinigis is a manufacturer discussing a future model we might have some thoughts and advice about. If he didn't do it in the Folding Bikes forum I would never know it existed.

Nobody thinks a fold-in-half frame is going to fold down to the size of a Brompton or Helix. If you want an electric Brompton, buy one. If you want an electric Helix..well, you can't even buy a non-electric one.

Joe Remi

I really like the design with mid-drive, and 250W is a good power level for it. I had an aluminum folder with 1500W and it was WAY overpowered for a 20-inch-wheel folder.

I like the battery location: Low and near the motor for good weight balance, and easily removed. The latter is important for a folder because it's easier to lift into a car with the battery removed, plus I store and charge my batteries in an ammo case in the house.

$2399 is a fair price for a carbon mid-drive folder..you'll sell a bunch of them, Paul. Nice bike.

Pinigis 

The 250W motor is more boost than one may think. The boost rating is 1 to 5 and I have yet to get above 3. I have been riding mostly at the minimum boost level.

downtube

About 25 years ago I was an active member of several bicycle newsgroups. There was one member ( I recall from Toronto ) that would create drama every month or two like clockwork. Every once in a while I got involved in the drama and my sales skyrocketed. Eventually I realized that his actions were just a setup to increase sales. He perpetuated nonsense and then claimed to be a victim...sound familiar?

Fast forward to today, this thread is not legal according to the rules. It's worse when combined with all the other sales stuff Pingis posts. After being called out, Pingis always claims be the victim ( same as 25 years ago ).

I understand Thor's situation, he didn't break any rules. I contacted him and encouraged him to advertise on bikeforums, since it would benefit his business. However I understood if he felt like he was blackmailed into advertising. I advertised here, and hooked him up with the agent. I told her I would buy some ads in the summer. However, this is getting awkward.

#1 Thor did not break any rules, and he would welcome an investigation.
#2 Threads discussing the ban are deleted. ( This has not been explained )
#3 About 50% of Pingis's posts break the rules.
#4 Advertising does not change the rules. FYI this site runs on vBulletin which costs as little as $15/mo on a cloud platform. Additionally moderators are not paid. Adverting dollars go directly to the owners.


Until things get straight, I am unable to advertise here. I am not even interested in being a member anymore.

I am hopeful that rules are enforced equally for all members, and I would be glad to participate. However I think I will find somewhere else to hang until I hear things are "proper".

Thanks,
Yan

avole

I realise the truth hurts, but there it is.

Take it to the moderators? No advice as far as I'm aware, and, anyway, I believe these things should be expressed openly not hidden in secret reporting.

You also don't seem to understand what the term 'benchmark' means. It is the standard to which others should aspire, nothing to do with buying or selling anything. You've also proved my point, by the way - you yourself said you would not have known about the model had the manufacturer not brought it up, as in advertised it, here. Hoist on your own petard, as we say .

Anyway, no further comment from me, as none necessary.

Joe Remi

There's your advice to report to moderators, avole. You clearly decided it was more interesting to keep whining on this thread.

Revoltingest

The design changes during development of this bike are interesting.
And I welcome the opportunity to have my questions answered, &
suggestions heard. This is not just advertising.
FWIW, I vote to keep the thread.
Don't make this place less interesting.

FBinNY 

My two cent suggestion is to mount the battery forward of the bottom bracket below the main tube, which may be raised slightly to accommodate the change. Odds are that there's enough room that the hinge can stay in the same place and folded size would be unaffected.

Wherever you decide to place the battery has to be better than the current place, which increases folded size, and takes valuable real estate that I, for one, would refer to use for carrying stuff.

Joe Remi

I don't think suspending a battery from a long section of carbon near the hinge is safe. And this frame isn't set up for a rear rack anyway, so you're not going to be putting stuff there. The best plan - which someone else mentioned - is a KlikFlix mount at the headtube.

dahoneezz

Looks nice.

gataddhin

This bike looks similar to Origami ebike.

The SAVA E8 or SAVADECK E8 ebikes are manufactured by Huizhou SAVA Bicycle Co. Ltd in China.

avole

Currently available from a well-known online retailer at around the $2000 mark. Well specced, too.

2_i 

Seems identical down to various details, with a mounted lamp though. Discounted a bit at Alibaba with free shipping to US.

Pinigis 

We partnered with SAVA for this one. We are still making tweaks to differentiate our version. Also, thier $2000 bike has a hub motor, their mid drive costs the same as ours. The difference is that we will provide support in the US

berlinonaut

I do not want to be disrespectful but what does the term "we partnered" exactly mean? Did you develop the bike or relevant core aspects of it? Did you pay them for the development of the bike? Or is it a badge design that you bought from them with some possibilities for customization for the buyer? So is it a development of your own or a rebranded bike of them?

Pinigis 

The development was by them, we are working together on modifications.

FolderBeholder

I give it a "10" on style-points. I quite like its looks...larger rubber and sporty demeanor. It's not a "me-too" look
(yet anyway)

The CF factor is NOT an attraction for me however...in fact quite the opposite.
In real world use...folding/unfolding, into and out of a car etc. I would consider it too brittle and prone to the type of damage
CF is more vulnerable to than alum.

Good luck I'm sure it will be a fine addition to a growing e-bike market.

L Arnold

Looks Nice Paul.
I'm not seeing the motor well. That is a concentric Motor w a Big BB hole or am I just interpreting the shadows wrong?