Advice on a rack or new backback for road bike
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Advice on a rack or new backback for road bike
Hello, first time poster here.
I've been biking to and from work for almost two years now. I started on a used beach cruiser, then when that literally split apart I bought a terrible commuter bike from Walmart that did a number on my back. I moved, so that my commute is now 7 miles instead of 3, I ended up buying a road bike because I was curious about the experience.
I really like the different riding style, but I am starting to get tired of having a sweaty back from my backpack when I get to work (especially now that summer is getting into swing).
My frame is a Bianchi aluminum alloy (I'm sure its their cheapest frame) that doesn't have anchor points for a bolt-on rack. I want to be able to carry about 15 lbs. However, this includes my jacket and lunch for the day, which while light can take up a lot of space. For that reason, I'm nervous about getting a seat-mounted rack.
I'm also open to a backpack if someone can recommend one that will breathe *really* well, but I do like the free feeling of having nothing on my back.
Kind of looking at the Arkel Randonneur seat post rack (https://www.arkel-od.com/en/arkel-randonneur-rack.html)...
Anyone have suggestions for how I can solve my sweaty back problem?
I've been biking to and from work for almost two years now. I started on a used beach cruiser, then when that literally split apart I bought a terrible commuter bike from Walmart that did a number on my back. I moved, so that my commute is now 7 miles instead of 3, I ended up buying a road bike because I was curious about the experience.
I really like the different riding style, but I am starting to get tired of having a sweaty back from my backpack when I get to work (especially now that summer is getting into swing).
My frame is a Bianchi aluminum alloy (I'm sure its their cheapest frame) that doesn't have anchor points for a bolt-on rack. I want to be able to carry about 15 lbs. However, this includes my jacket and lunch for the day, which while light can take up a lot of space. For that reason, I'm nervous about getting a seat-mounted rack.
I'm also open to a backpack if someone can recommend one that will breathe *really* well, but I do like the free feeling of having nothing on my back.
Kind of looking at the Arkel Randonneur seat post rack (https://www.arkel-od.com/en/arkel-randonneur-rack.html)...
Anyone have suggestions for how I can solve my sweaty back problem?
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Rack options
I almost always use a pannier to avoid the sweaty back, and to carry more that would be awkward in a backpack.
If you're willing to spend the $100 on the Arkel seatpost rack, then in the same general price range you could probably buy any of the following to hold up to 40 pounds securely front or rear:
- look at usual suspects, Nashbar, Performance, for racks that mount with P or C clamps to frame, probably around $50.
- Old Mountain Rack that mounts to the frame and axles ($140+),
- Minoura MTB or similar rack on Amazon, about $60-70, but reputedly heavy.
If you're willing to spend the $100 on the Arkel seatpost rack, then in the same general price range you could probably buy any of the following to hold up to 40 pounds securely front or rear:
- look at usual suspects, Nashbar, Performance, for racks that mount with P or C clamps to frame, probably around $50.
- Old Mountain Rack that mounts to the frame and axles ($140+),
- Minoura MTB or similar rack on Amazon, about $60-70, but reputedly heavy.
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best in the business:
tubus - Home
if you set it to English and then select "Accessories Rear Carriers" everything you need to mount the rack will be present.
this is a rack for life and will easily outlast your current bicycle.
For example ... this one even works with a quick release system.
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if you set it to English and then select "Accessories Rear Carriers" everything you need to mount the rack will be present.
this is a rack for life and will easily outlast your current bicycle.
For example ... this one even works with a quick release system.
tubus - Disco
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I really like my Axiom Streamliner Road DLX, nice and small but does a great job of holding panniers, mounts via the QR skewer and brake boss.
Streamliner Road DLX - Streamliner - Racks - Products - Axiom Cycling Gear
IMHO the Osprey Momentum 34 is/ was one of the finest backpack ever for bicycle commuting, however, they no longer make this model and or size. Here's a video review a guy made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdTuOVAGxc
Streamliner Road DLX - Streamliner - Racks - Products - Axiom Cycling Gear
IMHO the Osprey Momentum 34 is/ was one of the finest backpack ever for bicycle commuting, however, they no longer make this model and or size. Here's a video review a guy made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdTuOVAGxc
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I really like my Axiom Streamliner Road DLX, nice and small but does a great job of holding panniers, mounts via the QR skewer and brake boss.
Streamliner Road DLX - Streamliner - Racks - Products - Axiom Cycling Gear
IMHO the Osprey Momentum 34 is/ was one of the finest backpack ever for bicycle commuting, however, they no longer make this model and or size. Here's a video review a guy made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdTuOVAGxc
Streamliner Road DLX - Streamliner - Racks - Products - Axiom Cycling Gear
IMHO the Osprey Momentum 34 is/ was one of the finest backpack ever for bicycle commuting, however, they no longer make this model and or size. Here's a video review a guy made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdTuOVAGxc
Here's an older review:
the journeyman traveller: Arc'teryx Spear 20
IMHO, Osprey has always tried to hard to be flashy without the proven durability of ARC'TERYX.
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I think 35L is too large ... I get a 13.3 rMBP, lunch and a full change of clothes into an, unfortunately, not available any longer ARC'TERYX SPEAR 20L ... the roll top is nice for rackets/baguettes or other longer items.
Here's an older review:
the journeyman traveller: Arc'teryx Spear 20
IMHO, Osprey has always tried to hard to be flashy without the proven durability of ARC'TERYX.
Here's an older review:
the journeyman traveller: Arc'teryx Spear 20
IMHO, Osprey has always tried to hard to be flashy without the proven durability of ARC'TERYX.
Osprey has been making packs for over 40 years now, maybe not as long as Arc'teryx, but I would certainly say they have proven themselves, and they are known for their durability and lifetime "no question asked" warranty.
Don't get me wrong Arc'teryx makes a nice pack and is a leader in the industry.
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Well the 34 liter Momentum 34 will compress/ cinch down to a smaller size, where as a smaller backpack can not expand. Just nice to have the extra room in case you might need it.
Osprey has been making packs for over 40 years now, maybe not as long as Arc'teryx, but I would certainly say they have proven themselves, and they are known for their durability and lifetime "no question asked" warranty.
Don't get me wrong Arc'teryx makes a nice pack and is a leader in the industry.
Osprey has been making packs for over 40 years now, maybe not as long as Arc'teryx, but I would certainly say they have proven themselves, and they are known for their durability and lifetime "no question asked" warranty.
Don't get me wrong Arc'teryx makes a nice pack and is a leader in the industry.
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I bought a seatpost style rack, fixed a trunk bag onto it.
Then.. a toss my belongings into one of the cheap, draw-string style back packs and simply drop it into the trunk.
I'll keep my extra tube, and multi-tool, a bungee etc in the rack all the time.
Then.. a toss my belongings into one of the cheap, draw-string style back packs and simply drop it into the trunk.
I'll keep my extra tube, and multi-tool, a bungee etc in the rack all the time.
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Osprey has been making packs for over 40 years now, maybe not as long as Arc'teryx, but I would certainly say they have proven themselves, and they are known for their durability and lifetime "no question asked" warranty.
Don't get me wrong Arc'teryx makes a nice pack and is a leader in the industry.
Don't get me wrong Arc'teryx makes a nice pack and is a leader in the industry.
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The issue with seatpost racks, apart from any weight concerns, is that with only 1 anchor point they can end up moving left/right because they're not attached.
The issues with any backpack are that either you have a sweaty back, or you get the kind that prevents that but it has a hard plastic back that's not comfortable to ride with on a road bike (works fine for mountain biking but was very awkward for me for road biking where you're leaning over the bars).
They do make racks that mount on bikes without rack mounts. The two most common that I know of are the Axiom Streamliner Disc (cheaper):
Amazon.com : Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black : Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
If you want something that's super light but more expensive, the Bontrager Backrack Lightweight:
Bontrager BackRack Lightweight | Trek Bikes
There are some pictures of the Bontrager Backrack on a full carbon Trek Domane (no rack mounts) here:
**********-ITEM-?Y's Road ???
The issues with any backpack are that either you have a sweaty back, or you get the kind that prevents that but it has a hard plastic back that's not comfortable to ride with on a road bike (works fine for mountain biking but was very awkward for me for road biking where you're leaning over the bars).
They do make racks that mount on bikes without rack mounts. The two most common that I know of are the Axiom Streamliner Disc (cheaper):
Amazon.com : Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black : Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
If you want something that's super light but more expensive, the Bontrager Backrack Lightweight:
Bontrager BackRack Lightweight | Trek Bikes
There are some pictures of the Bontrager Backrack on a full carbon Trek Domane (no rack mounts) here:
**********-ITEM-?Y's Road ???
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They do make racks that mount on bikes without rack mounts. The two most common that I know of are the Axiom Streamliner Disc (cheaper):
Amazon.com : Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black : Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com : Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black : Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
The tubus mount and adapter set also seem like very good options, but this one seems like a good mix of all-in-one and cheap. I'd feel more comfortable putting a pannier on this then trying to fit into a trunk back on a seat-mounted rack.
Thanks so much for everyone taking the time to offer advice. I feel quite welcome here!
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cool man and welcome to BF.
take some photos and let us know how it works out for ya!
take some photos and let us know how it works out for ya!
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I have this backpack. Race EXP Air - Bikebackpack - Deuter
This is the best I have had in many generations of commuter backpacks. This has a mesh layer that holds the bag away from your back and lets some air flow between the bag and your back. No sweaty back. Got the bright green one so it stands out a little better to drivers.
Only downside is the bag is on the small side. The good side of that is it keeps me from collecting and hauling extra junk that seems to collect over time.
This is the best I have had in many generations of commuter backpacks. This has a mesh layer that holds the bag away from your back and lets some air flow between the bag and your back. No sweaty back. Got the bright green one so it stands out a little better to drivers.
Only downside is the bag is on the small side. The good side of that is it keeps me from collecting and hauling extra junk that seems to collect over time.
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Had a false start with the wrong sized seat post clamp, but I ordered a new one and put it all together!
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
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Had a false start with the wrong sized seat post clamp, but I ordered a new one and put it all together!
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
That said, you should tighten your quick release skewers the same way that you tighten them without the rack. Screw in the nut on the drive side until the lever is a bit tight when half way closed and then push the lever closed.
I would also suggest changing the orientation of the rack stays. Turn them over so that they come in at a shallower angle and then bend upward towards the seat collar mount.
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Had a false start with the wrong sized seat post clamp, but I ordered a new one and put it all together!
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
I'm really happy with it. I had to follow the advice of a lot of the reviewers on Amazon and reverse the seat post arms, but other than that it worked perfectly. I'm a little concerned with how I re-fastened the quick release axle. I put the springs on the outside of the rack arms and tightened it to somewhere that *seems* reasonable, but I don't remember how tight the clamp was when I started...
Now I have to order some panniers or something so I can actually use this! Might find some way to rig my backpack to the thing in the meantime...
It looks like you went with the Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black right?
Amazon.com : Axiom DLX Streamliner Disc Cycle Rack, Black : Bike Racks : Sports & Outdoors
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I'm not a fan of using the quick release skewer for a rack mount for a couple of reasons. First, you are asking a lot of a rather thin piece of metal. The quick release skewer can bend under a fairly light load. Second, the rack defeats the whole purpose of a "quick release". It makes fixing flats much more difficult. You'll probably have to take the load off the rack to avoid bending other parts of the rack since the stays can't carry much weight.
That said, you should tighten your quick release skewers the same way that you tighten them without the rack. Screw in the nut on the drive side until the lever is a bit tight when half way closed and then push the lever closed.
I would also suggest changing the orientation of the rack stays. Turn them over so that they come in at a shallower angle and then bend upward towards the seat collar mount.
That said, you should tighten your quick release skewers the same way that you tighten them without the rack. Screw in the nut on the drive side until the lever is a bit tight when half way closed and then push the lever closed.
I would also suggest changing the orientation of the rack stays. Turn them over so that they come in at a shallower angle and then bend upward towards the seat collar mount.
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I'm not a fan of using the quick release skewer for a rack mount for a couple of reasons. First, you are asking a lot of a rather thin piece of metal. The quick release skewer can bend under a fairly light load. Second, the rack defeats the whole purpose of a "quick release". It makes fixing flats much more difficult. You'll probably have to take the load off the rack to avoid bending other parts of the rack since the stays can't carry much weight.
And yes PaulRivers, I did go with the Axiom Streamliner.
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Thanks, just wanted to confirm that I had the exact rack right if I share the pics for other people looking for a similar thing. :-)
The other poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.
The rear wheel skewer combined with the wheel is designed to handle your entire bodyweight (average male is around 200lbs), plus additional forces from pedalling on it.
There's no practical difference between mounting the rack on the skewer directly, vs mounting it on the frame, as mounting it on the frame simply transfers the weight to the skewer and wheel.
There's no reason to buy an extra skewer, it's not an issue. Both a frame mount and a skewer mount transfer the weight through to the skewer and the wheel in functionally the same way.
Thanks for the advice. In general I don't expect to have more than 10-15 lbs on the rack so hopefully it will turn out OK. The reviews for the product seem pretty positive so I'm going to keep it for now. I will keep your concerns in mind though and maybe purchase an extra quick-release skewer to keep with me just in case my current one ends up damaged from the tack.
The rear wheel skewer combined with the wheel is designed to handle your entire bodyweight (average male is around 200lbs), plus additional forces from pedalling on it.
There's no practical difference between mounting the rack on the skewer directly, vs mounting it on the frame, as mounting it on the frame simply transfers the weight to the skewer and wheel.
There's no reason to buy an extra skewer, it's not an issue. Both a frame mount and a skewer mount transfer the weight through to the skewer and the wheel in functionally the same way.
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Thanks, just wanted to confirm that I had the exact rack right if I share the pics for other people looking for a similar thing. :-)
The other poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.
The rear wheel skewer combined with the wheel is designed to handle your entire bodyweight (average male is around 200lbs), plus additional forces from pedalling on it.
There's no practical difference between mounting the rack on the skewer directly, vs mounting it on the frame, as mounting it on the frame simply transfers the weight to the skewer and wheel.
There's no reason to buy an extra skewer, it's not an issue. Both a frame mount and a skewer mount transfer the weight through to the skewer and the wheel in functionally the same way.
The other poster doesn't have any idea what they're talking about.
The rear wheel skewer combined with the wheel is designed to handle your entire bodyweight (average male is around 200lbs), plus additional forces from pedalling on it.
There's no practical difference between mounting the rack on the skewer directly, vs mounting it on the frame, as mounting it on the frame simply transfers the weight to the skewer and wheel.
There's no reason to buy an extra skewer, it's not an issue. Both a frame mount and a skewer mount transfer the weight through to the skewer and the wheel in functionally the same way.
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I'm not at all anti-rack (I have one on my mountain bike), but I absolutely love my Osprey Radial when riding my folding commuter. The mesh back panel really keeps sweat off my back. For my five mile commute, the backpack is perfect.
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get a front handlebar bag .... such as the Gilles Berthoud .... large, and it can be mounted with a KlickFix unit
the curious randonneur: Handlebar Bag...without a front rack
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