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If your group of cyclist is on the road and I choose to get a free draft...Free game

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Old 06-06-13, 12:56 PM
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If your group of cyclist is on the road and I choose to get a free draft...Free game

Seriously, if you and your buddies are riding along and pass me and I'd like a free draft...I will hop on and get a draft. What is this nonsense about courtesy and asking for permission. Unless you guys decide to ride unsafely, I'll stay on the rear guys wheel until I see fit.
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great idea for a thread....
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I see a slew of "In Soviet Russia..." jokes coming...
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Originally Posted by bt
great idea for a thread....

Hey, I've got an hour to kill before I leave work.
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Some day you'll have a bad crash and maybe you'll understand that drafting/pacelines on public roads are best done with folks you know and trust.

Til then, good luck.
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So original.
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Some day you'll have a bad crash and maybe you'll understand that drafting/pacelines on public roads are best done with folks you know and trust.

Til then, good luck.
right because I know and trust everyone on my local club ride. You serious?
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Had tacobell for breakfast.. I dare you to draft me.
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Had tacobell for breakfast.. I dare you to draft me.
Taco Bell goes in and out in the same form. That's not much of a dare.
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right because I know and trust everyone on my local club ride. You serious?
Does your local club ride force you to hop on unannounced? You're missing the point.
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So I'm riding single on the STP and notice a rider slowly catching up to me, then he is on my wheel. I look back now and then and he says "I find it easier for me if I draft other riders". After 15-20 minutes it was obvious he wasn't into sharing so I took a break to stretch my legs. Poacher.
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
Seriously, if you and your buddies are riding along and pass me and I'd like a free draft...I will hop on and get a draft. What is this nonsense about courtesy and asking for permission. Unless you guys decide to ride unsafely, I'll stay on the rear guys wheel until you brake check me and I crash, then start to cry.
Have fun with that.
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Depends on whats in their jersey pockets... I mean the cliff blocks and I am defiantly game or anything homemade really. If its some Gu or honeywaffles than I wont bother.
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in soviet russia, drafts will hop on YOU

seriously, don't be a hater. If the guy rides smoothly, then what's the problem?
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Originally Posted by ovoleg
right because I know and trust everyone on my local club ride. You serious?
My local club ride is made up of experienced racers, and when a rookie shows up he's given special mentoring and consideration. And yea, I'm serious.
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About the last place I'd want to be is drafting behind someone who is annoyed with me. All it takes is a quick grab of the brake and the drafting rider is down.
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Is it "free game" or "fair game"???
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
Is it "free game" or "fair game"???
In Soviet Russia, game is free!
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When I pass someone, I'm expecting them to hop on. I'll watch to be sure. No big deal. But what I don't like is someone who just comes up unannounced and I hear them
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As stupid as this might sound to some of you guys, I don't even draft off of people I know. I don't like people on my rear wheel either so I'm usually the guy who's riding on the side or hanging a bike length back.

IMO it doesn't get any more ******** than passing someone slower and then having them drafting off of you. It's not a matter of "Oh you're getting a free ride", but it's a safety thing.
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Originally Posted by Jseis
So I'm riding single on the STP and notice a rider slowly catching up to me, then he is on my wheel. I look back now and then and he says "I find it easier for me if I draft other riders". After 15-20 minutes it was obvious he wasn't into sharing so I took a break to stretch my legs. Poacher.
You know that having a rider drafting behind you makes the both of you faster, right? It's not "poaching". Look it up if you don't believe me. It's why NASCAR racers are able to pair up and push each other and why pacelines in NASCAR races are so much faster than individual cars (the effects are much exaggerated at speeds nearing 200mph).

Besides being a little weird having someone I don't know in "my space", it is not the least bit dangerous or "poacher-y" to have a person drafting me. Just so long as they aren't expecting me to protect them. There is almost nothing they can do which would put me in danger.
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In soviet Russia, bicycle ride you!!
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If someone do not want you to draft and you insist on doing it, that's harassment. Simple as that.

Now in Soviet Russia...
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