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Old 04-04-24, 07:19 PM
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My goodness, that looks nicer than any Tourist. I never really liked the Tourist.
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Originally Posted by noglider
My goodness, that looks nicer than any Tourist. I never really liked the Tourist.
Thanks! It took a bit of research to sort out the graphics and where they went. There's not much info on pre-war British bikes in this regard. The ride has a regal quality owing the more slack geometry.
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Originally Posted by Salubrious
That's the right headset! The tricky bits will be a proper type K hub and the stem. Actually the handlebars have a different bend to them as well. The brake levers will have the word 'Patent' engraved in them but newer brake levers will work well enough.
The headset is original, as is the bottom bracket. The cranks are later.

To my dismay, I found out the chaincase came off another '36 Sports Tourist...and the drum hubs already sold. I might have checked his listings earlier had I seen your lovely, restored '36. Looks very clean with the cables routed directly to the hubs.

How does the slack geometry compare between a 28" example and the '36, by chance? The Humber is a bit small for me to experience as it was intended. I also haven't checked to see if the bolt-on-stay frameset and the brazed stay frameset share the same frame angles.

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Nice to see that one getting some new life! I bought it from a local seller who was cleaning out his parents' house, and this his/hers Raleigh set had evidently lived in their backyard out in the New England elements for pretty much the second half of the 20th century. I've never seen bikes in rougher shape, but that odd black overspray seems to have preserved some original finish. Maybe it was applied during WWII in an attempt at a "blackout" look!
Can you share those photos again? The "as found" deserves to be seen again.

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That 1936 is really handsome. Aren't you going to start a thread for it?
I will, but I don't expect to be doing much to it soon. I have a few other projects I'd like to put forward first.

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Originally Posted by cudak888
Can you share those photos again? The "as found" deserves to be seen again.

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Thanks, Neal. Looking at those pictures helps me appreciate the current starting point I'm working with. "...it's not that bad!"

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Originally Posted by cudak888
The headset is original, as is the bottom bracket. The cranks are later.

To my dismay, I found out the chaincase came off another '36 Sports Tourist...and the drum hubs already sold. I might have checked his listings earlier had I seen your lovely, restored '36. Looks very clean with the cables routed directly to the hubs.

How does the slack geometry compare between a 28" example and the '36, by chance? The Humber is a bit small for me to experience as it was intended. I also haven't checked to see if the bolt-on-stay frameset and the brazed stay frameset share the same frame angles.

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It seems to have more in common with the rod brake machines; its a compromise so I'm going to say its about 60-70% the way there from the 26" bikes. The seat stays look like bolt-on stays that got filled in and brazed. I've not compared either.
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Originally Posted by Salubrious
It seems to have more in common with the rod brake machines; its a compromise so I'm going to say its about 60-70% the way there from the 26" bikes. The seat stays look like bolt-on stays that got filled in and brazed. I've not compared either.
To my surprise, the Sports Tourist I have here - save for the lug shape and pressed fork ends - is otherwise identical to a later brazed-stay frame, except for the obvious geometry differences.

My real curiosity is whether the bolt-on stays vs. brazed stays make for a significant difference in ride feel at the rear triangle. I suspect the brazed stays are theoretically stiffer, but probably not enough to feel at the butt dyno.

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Side note - took the ‘51 out recently and captured this picture.



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