Master Link On The Road Without Tool
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Ah you live in Australia, in the US the M19 is around $20.
Just looking at the Fix-It site the basic tool plus chain breaker is $49. Is it cheaper in Australia? Keep in mind it's not directly comparable as the Fix-It doesn't include the same tools as the M19 and is missing some drivers and the spoke wrenches.
Anyway, good luck with your choice.
Just looking at the Fix-It site the basic tool plus chain breaker is $49. Is it cheaper in Australia? Keep in mind it's not directly comparable as the Fix-It doesn't include the same tools as the M19 and is missing some drivers and the spoke wrenches.
Anyway, good luck with your choice.
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I've only even heard of a broken chain once in the last 5 or 7 years. They seem pretty reliable.
Using a tiny chain tool on 11 speed chains
Do those miniature chain tools on a bike multi-tool work on modern chains? I've never tried one.
I have a small Park CT-5 tool. It worked okay on 10 speed chains. But it's very difficult to push out an 11-speed pin. I had to hold the loop handle with an adjustable wrench to get more leverage.
So I got the larger, sturdy CT-3.2 tool. This is much easier to use, at home.
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You get 'upset' ends, (you call mushroomed, its more subtle that that),
of the chain pins out
by stretching the hole in the outer link plate.. that is pretty much why
you only shorten a modern derailleur chain..
of the chain pins out
by stretching the hole in the outer link plate.. that is pretty much why
you only shorten a modern derailleur chain..
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I tried breaking a few chain segments with a little Fabric 16 multi-tool just now, for the sake of science. The Fabric 16 chain tool is pretty small.
Ultegra 11 speed was cake. The mushroom pin popped right out. Just about any reasonable multi-tool should suffice for this chain.
A KMC 1/8" track chain didn't even flinch. I thought the little tool was going to break, Had to give up because my fingers hurt.
The CT-3.2 is a good shop tool but I got one with a bent tip from the factory.
-Tim-
Ultegra 11 speed was cake. The mushroom pin popped right out. Just about any reasonable multi-tool should suffice for this chain.
A KMC 1/8" track chain didn't even flinch. I thought the little tool was going to break, Had to give up because my fingers hurt.
The CT-3.2 is a good shop tool but I got one with a bent tip from the factory.
-Tim-
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Is it not possible to extract all the pins out of a masterlink chain such as 11-speed KMC by using a chain breaker, like you can with a shimano chain? If so, does that mean you can't re-lengthen a masterlink chain, except by using in a second masterlink?
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I had a new Shimano 9-speed chain that kept "catching air" as it moved up to connect the cogs, kind of like a chain will do when it's dirty and the links are funky. I cleaned and lubed the chain, to no avail. Then I ditched the master link, and re-attached the chain with the standard chain Park tool (blue plastic on the handle), taking care that the pin was nice and flush. Problem solved!
Needless to say, I remain suspicious of master links, although I'm not writing them off quite yet.
Needless to say, I remain suspicious of master links, although I'm not writing them off quite yet.
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You can remove by hand, but it tends to be messy because you pretty much have to grab a full handful of chain with each hand. Thumb & forefinger on each side of the link. You need a bit of side to side motion as you try to jam it together to release.
Practice on a NEW, CLEAN chain to get your technique established. They'll come apart slightly harder with the grit & grease involved.
Practice on a NEW, CLEAN chain to get your technique established. They'll come apart slightly harder with the grit & grease involved.
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