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Old 01-03-19, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pass the peas
What were you starting your day with before you switched to bacon and eggs?
A prairie oyster (sometimes also prairie cocktail) is a traditional drink consisting of a raw egg (often yolk alone), Worcestershire sauce, vinegar and/or hot sauce, table salt and ground black pepper. Tomato juice is sometimes also added, reminiscent of a Bloody Mary. The egg is broken into a glass so as not to break the yolk, which causes the drink to bear a similarity to the texture of an actual oyster when quickly swallowed, as is recommended. The concoction has been referred to as a traditional cure for hangovers, and has been seen in various media for decades.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
But you lost me at carbs.
He lost me at the first sentence, but such is par for course with his musings. For example, whole grains are perfectly fine.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict
3 Simple RUles:

Eat lots and lots of veggie (main source of calory). Eat small portion meat, as condiment. Eat lots of fish and nuts. Eggs are good for you.
Meat isn't unhealthy. There's no need to restrict it to a small portion. Eating veggies is great though.
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Choose Organic.
Organic food is a waste of money.
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Avoid processed carbs like bread (even avoid whole grain), flour, rice, pasta, cookies, etc--ie stuff that comes in a box or plastic package.
Meh. In moderation, this is fine.
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Originally Posted by phughes
Actually, the brain is the fatties organ in the body, made up of, at minimum, 60% fat.
Yes, but the fat part isn't the thinking part. Myelin (nerve sheaths) surround neurons and make up most of the brain fat ... some claim.

The myelin insulation around neural axons and glial cells, which is mostly lipid, brings the fat content of an animal brain to about 60%. (What percentage of the brain is fat) (And as far as I know, the most important thing in the body that fat does---protects our nerves---second being lubricating joints, I hear … but I am no doctor nor scientist.)

This (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20329590) goes on about essential fatty acids …. Quite interesting ….

But I had usually heard that it is childhood protein deficiency which lessened brain growth … and that when humans became bipedal their increased speed and mobility, field of vision (above ground cover,) and grasping/throwing ability improved their ability to hunt, increasing meat in the diet. I had never heard that the human race advanced because it discovered avocadoes.

This is interesting, and I will now start watching for research developments here … so thanks,. You bunch of fatheads.

In any case ... neither bacon nor eggs played a huge role in this evolutionary leap, .... sorry folks.

And for that matter, neither did Grant Petersen.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty

A prairie oyster (sometimes also prairie cocktail) is a traditional drink consisting of a raw egg (often yolk alone), Worcestershire sauce, vinegar and/or hot sauce, table salt and ground black pepper. Tomato juice is sometimes also added, reminiscent of a Bloody Mary. The egg is broken into a glass so as not to break the yolk, which causes the drink to bear a similarity to the texture of an actual oyster when quickly swallowed, as is recommended. The concoction has been referred to as a traditional cure for hangovers, and has been seen in various media for decades.
Not to be confused with mountain oysters -- which are pretty tasty, as long as you don't dwell too much on their origins.

Interestingly, I've lived on the prairie my entire life and I've never heard of a prairie oyster until today. I suspect it's in the same category as french fries, in terms of geographical veracity.
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I made 2 lbs of this the other day (with 1 tsp of crushed/ground Cayenne added).
Awesome stuff.

https://www.thekitchenwhisperer.net/...-man-candy-iv/
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty

A prairie oyster (sometimes also prairie cocktail) is a traditional drink consisting of a raw egg (often yolk alone), Worcestershire sauce, vinegar and/or hot sauce, table salt and ground black pepper. Tomato juice is sometimes also added, reminiscent of a Bloody Mary. The egg is broken into a glass so as not to break the yolk, which causes the drink to bear a similarity to the texture of an actual oyster when quickly swallowed, as is recommended. The concoction has been referred to as a traditional cure for hangovers, and has been seen in various media for decades.

You do know there is an entirely different food known as prairie oysters, right? I suspect that one is also high in protein.
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Originally Posted by OBoile
Meat isn't unhealthy. There's no need to restrict it to a small portion. Eating veggies is great though.

Organic food is a waste of money.
Give organic meat a try...I think it taste better...besides being healthier for you and better for the environment.

I used to be skeptical.

I buy a whole organic chicken and a traditional caged chicken.
I cut them up.
The former is lean and looks like it was a healthy bird.
The latter is is full of fat...it looks like it was an obese bird.

The former taste better imo.

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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Yes, but the fat part isn't the thinking part. Myelin (nerve sheaths) surround neurons and make up most of the brain fat ... some claim.

The myelin insulation around neural axons and glial cells, which is mostly lipid, brings the fat content of an animal brain to about 60%. (What percentage of the brain is fat) (And as far as I know, the most important thing in the body that fat does---protects our nerves---second being lubricating joints, I hear … but I am no doctor nor scientist.)

This (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20329590) goes on about essential fatty acids …. Quite interesting ….

But I had usually heard that it is childhood protein deficiency which lessened brain growth … and that when humans became bipedal their increased speed and mobility, field of vision (above ground cover,) and grasping/throwing ability improved their ability to hunt, increasing meat in the diet. I had never heard that the human race advanced because it discovered avocadoes.

This is interesting, and I will now start watching for research developments here … so thanks,. You bunch of fatheads.

In any case ... neither bacon nor eggs played a huge role in this evolutionary leap, .... sorry folks.

And for that matter, neither did Grant Petersen.
My point wasn't that protein didn't matter. As for deficiencies, some parents began restricting fat in their children's diets once people got on the low fat kick, whihc is very detrimental to brain development in kids. They should not have fat restricted before age 2 as a result.

The overall point, is that both fat and protein matter for brain development, and general health actually. Completely restricting one or the other isn't necessarily a good idea.
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Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Give organic meat a try...I think it taste better...besides being healthier for you
This is false.

Originally Posted by mtb_addict
and better for the environment.
This is also false.

I'm not surprised that many folks are duped by "organic" marketing though.

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Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Give organic meat a try...I think it taste better...besides being healthier for you and better for the environment.

I used to be skeptical.

I buy a whole organic chicken and a traditional caged chicken.
I cut them up.
The former is lean and looks like it was a healthy bird.
The latter is is full of fat...it looks like it was an obese bird.

The former taste better imo.
I use grass fed (and finished) beef. We (my wife and I) buy a 1/4 cow each year.
I also eat free range chickens and pigs purchased specifically from a farm that sells them. Note that "organic" does not necessarily mean the animal is not kept in a cage.

It's all still a waste of money from a nutrition perspective, or would be if we weren't able to skip the middle man. We do it because it makes my wife feel good that the animals weren't kept in a cage.
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Originally Posted by ogmtb
This is false.
I do notice a very slight difference in taste between my grass fed beef and regular beef. The grass fed beef is a bit more "gamey" tasting. I'm not sure I like it better though.
As for health, it may be slightly better, but the difference, if any, is very small IMO.

Originally Posted by ogmtb
This is also false.

I'm not surprised that many folks are duped by "organic" marketing though.
Agreed.
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Eat more bacon and be happy. Not a single one of us gets out of this world alive, so eat more bacon and enjoy the time you have here on earth.

The Bstone catalogs were pure marketing genius. Very well done, and I have a copy of each one, so eat your hearts out!
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Originally Posted by ogmtb
This is false.

Guess that settles it. Can't get more conclusive than that.
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Just don't eat marsupials .....
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Originally Posted by jon c.
Guess that settles it. Can't get more conclusive than that.
For folks who aren’t lazy and/or incompetent, there’s a great deal of information about the organic industry and their false marketing narratives just a few key strokes and mouse clicks away.

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Not sure how Grant telling you to eat bacon somehow relieved your "guilt" but ok? Seems an odd source for moral forgiveness.

Eat what you want but don't try to pretend you need to eat meat to be healthy. You eat it because you want to. Just own it instead of looking for excuses from bicycle tire salesmen - no good can come from that.

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Originally Posted by radroad
Standard disclaimer: I am only reporting my personal experiences, not making any medical recommendations. Use your own personal discretion and judgement.
Good thing, since no one can disagree with your claimed personal experience. Otherwise, that's as far as it goes.
Originally Posted by Happy Feet
Not sure how Grant telling you to eat bacon somehow relieved your "guilt" but ok? Seems an odd source for moral forgiveness.

Eat what you want but don't try to pretend you need to eat meat to be healthy. You eat it because you want to. Just own it instead of looking for excuses from bicycle tire salesmen - no good can come from that.
Not to mention no link for validation of interpretation and/or context.
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I like to buy many items that are organic, whether labeled or not. I don't like eating/drinking/ingesting pesticides. I don't like injected hormones, steroids or any other weird stuff they put in cows to fatten them up. It's imoral to put a pig in a cage that she can't even turn around in for years, her only purpose to produce baby pigs until she cannot anymore. Let the pigs live out their lives in better conditions. Let cows eat grass like they are suppose to, and quit injecting them with crap just to fatten them up. We can do better than that!
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Ogmtb --- i know farmers who really do grow organic, clean water and clean soil and natural fertilizers and everything except filtered air.

Sorry you can only think in terms of corporations. Did a can of commercial organic beans insult one of your family members or something?

Some of us know that almost ALL marketing is lie-based--and still don't bubble over with vitriol.

You are no better than what you hate.
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Originally Posted by ogmtb


For folks who aren’t lazy and/or incompetent, there’s a great deal of information about the organic industry and their false marketing narratives just a few key strokes and mouse clicks away.

And possessing a good sense of humor I see.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Ogmtb --- i know farmers who really do grow organic, clean water and clean soil and natural fertilizers and everything except filtered air.

Sorry you can only think in terms of corporations. Did a can of commercial organic beans insult one of your family members or something?

Some of us know that almost ALL marketing is lie-based--and still don't bubble over with vitriol.

You are no better than what you hate.
Ah, another marketing victim.

Also, your many false assumptions about me do speak volumes about you, and your confusion.

That’s really sad.
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Let us eat healthy cows, not sick ones. Let us eat potatoes and blueberries without bug poisons inside them!
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Originally Posted by Gconan
I like to buy many items that are organic, whether labeled or not. I don't like eating/drinking/ingesting pesticides.
I have some really bad news for you about the organic pesticides that you are eating/drinking/ingesting.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...l-agriculture/
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