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Old 03-23-20, 08:45 AM
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But the crux of this is: getting self isolation 90% right doesn’t achieve the goal, which is not collapsing our healthcare system. We need to get it 97 or 98% right. I’m not sure of the exact numbers, but you get the point. The way we’re doing is NOT enough.
I think the epidemiologists basically assume that unless you have Chinese-style enforced isolation, that compliance is never going to be 100%.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Facebook is the devil. It really got to be too much, and I stepped off a few months ago. I miss the dogs and the pigs, but many of the people? Not so much.
Same with Twitter.
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Originally Posted by ls01
We haven't though. Nicotine is the chemical being added to the vape that continues the addiction. The vape companies are literally enslaving people to thier product for thier own profit. I think tobaco should be eradicated.
We had been making progress against tobacco before vaping entered. Now it’s gone.

As for eradicating, I love the thought, but it didn’t work against alcohol and marijuana, and plainly made things worse.
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Looks like we are going to be the next quarantined in place.

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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
They even had ground beef if one is so inclined.
We even found grass fed. Probably paid 9 bucks for it too. Wife won't tell me.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Nope. I did see a non-lighted one cruise over north Phoenix circa 1987, and a similar light formation in Portland circa 1999.
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Old 03-23-20, 08:50 AM
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There were no eggs to be had locally for a week or so, but we've got some stock on hand, now. Some stores, like Target, are limiting customers to 1 or 2 dozen eggs.

Speaking of ramen, I saw this video last night (this guy is the chef for Good Mythical Morning) and it has me temped to experiment.

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Uh oh.
I really don't mind washing by hand, so long as the sink is properly designed. I hate the one in my house right now, but unfortunately I can't do anything about it as a renter.
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Old 03-23-20, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Will trade eggs for raisins and organic whole milk.
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People here don't get it.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Facebook is the devil. It really got to be too much, and I stepped off a few months ago. I miss the dogs and the pigs, but many of the people? Not so much.
I‘m always on the verge of deleting it.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Never got into it. Daughter warned us off when she was, like, 14.
I hadn't been on it until I started racing. It seemed a good way to coordinate stuff, then I got sucked in.
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Old 03-23-20, 08:54 AM
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The whole flaunting recommendations burns me as well. Especially when people decide to give it a political slant. Luckily I purged my FB a while back and rarely engage there anyway, so my exposure to fools like that has been minimized. I rarely go out myself, but there is definitely a lot less people in areas that are otherwise highly packed.

Our family is self isolating as much as possible. It's REALLY HARD with a 4 year old boy and 8 year old girl. They NEED to get out and about and get some energy burned off. My wife is home with them and gets them outside when she can. She teaches HS and my daughter is in second grade, so she is busy helping her students stay engaged and helping my daughter accomplish things through the week. Normally our boy would be at a home daycare, but the lady that watches him is older herself and her husband has had several health scares so we are just not going to risk it for them. As we are both still working, we decided to keep paying her so that she isn't out of all her income (not sure what other parents are doing, but I'm fairly sure they aren't bringing their kids to her).

I am still going into work, but it is really to distance yourself from others here. It's a large-ish shop with only 25 or so people on staff. And the front office sales staff is working from home now I believe. I can do some work from home buy need to physically build some product from time to time.

One of the work contacts in NYC I kind of befriended is living in lockdown in Brooklyn and they just had a baby on the 12th of this month. I can not even imagine that feeling as a parent. Kind of good to be stuck home as it is, but logistically with groceries and trying not to bring a highly infectious disease to a newborn. Scary times.

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Old 03-23-20, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
wut
If you're going to have milk, whole is the way to go.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Facebook is the devil. It really got to be too much, and I stepped off a few months ago. I miss the dogs and the pigs, but many of the people? Not so much.
No doubt. I only kept mine alive because the local gravel ride organizer is most communicative on that platform. That and sometimes the marketplace thing is useful. Especially since it has basically killed CL in my area.
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Old 03-23-20, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Seriously, we had little trouble getting what we needed, didn’t check the TP or paper products aisle. They even had ground beef if one is so inclined.

No canned soup but a lot of Ramen noodles.
I read recently that Ramen has no business being classified as food.
In other, more positive news, I began building Roger Muusson's home built truing stand yesterday. I've had the instructions for eight years or so. All the pieces are cut out and I will shortly begin the assembly process. And then I will build wheels.
If I had to give up all things bicycle, I could be content building wheels for the rest of my life.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
That and sometimes the marketplace thing is useful. Especially since it has basically killed CL in my area.
That's the only reason I ever go on it. Occasionally I will venture out of the marketplace section and browse the news feed, but I can't take the drivel for long.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Nope. I did see a non-lighted one cruise over north Phoenix circa 1987, and a similar light formation in Portland circa 1999.
I hope to see something like that in my life.

#iwanttobelieve
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Yup, 3 week stay home order from the governor
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Yup, 3 week stay home order from the governor
Any specifics on outdoor exercise?
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Go for walk,ok. Riding a bike , is ok. But alone. They do not want people together,period.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
I am still going into work, but it is really to distance yourself from others here. It's a large-ish shop with only 25 or so people on staff. And the front office sales staff is working from home now I believe. I can do some work from home buy need to physically build some product from time to time.
As a medical and government supplier, we are deemed essential under the governor's executive order. Like you, sales and most upper management are all working from home, and for those of us who still have to come in they have taken steps like leaving interior doors propped open to minimize people touching the same things. Came in this morning to find the break room closed off. No access to microwaves, fridges, etc. That's been a little annoying.

People are being told to eat lunch at their work areas. Ironic, because we have previously cracked down on people doing exactly that for FOD concerns
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I read recently that Ramen has no business being classified as food.
Real ramen is the work of angels. Instant ramen has varying levels of food-ness. If you're looking for calories via carbs and fat, and you want it with a sidecar of salt, the 25¢ per packet jobbers at the grocery store are the ticket. The more expensive ones at specialty grocers, $2+ each, can be quite tasty. Sometimes they're still loaded with fat, sometimes not (with cheap ramen, the noodles are cooked and "dried" in oil).
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Originally Posted by abshipp
That's the only reason I ever go on it. Occasionally I will venture out of the marketplace section and browse the news feed, but I can't take the drivel for long.
"Dribble" is Internet for "drivel." You may enjoy it more if you assimilate a little.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
But the crux of this is: getting self isolation 90% right doesn’t achieve the goal, which is not collapsing our healthcare system. We need to get it 97 or 98% right. I’m not sure of the exact numbers, but you get the point. The way we’re doing is NOT enough..
I think part of the problem is people don't realize, or refuse to accept, how bad the virus is. I read lots of people saying things like "it's just another flu" or "the democrats are ruining the world economy over a flu" or they will trot out statistics about how the flu kills x number of people and we don't get excited about that.
I've also read people saying how the virus hasn't shown up in their area so why should they be forced to stay home. Lots of minimizing.

I've had a bad flu before and it made me so sick I could see how it could easily kill people. This new thing is reportedly worse than those viruses. I read a couple first hand accounts and it sounds awful.
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But the crux of this is: getting self isolation 90% right doesn’t achieve the goal, which is not collapsing our healthcare system. We need to get it 97 or 98% right. I’m not sure of the exact numbers, but you get the point. The way we’re doing is NOT enough.

And the FB thing- I don’t care that I have a friend portraying her life to be rosier than it is. I care that she went out running with a friend who isn’t part of her household and posted multiple heads together selfies, pics of them hugging, etc. And every response to that was delight, maybe 25 of her friends piped up encouraging things. This friend owns her own engineering firm. She’s financially well off, and an educated person. So it’s not about understanding FB is fake. It’s about her posting photographic proof of her lack of self isolation and a bunch of people she knows thinking that’s great. And her not responding to my WTF? text.
I would encourage you to continue posting your WTF text to them because obviously somebody has to let them know it’s not all right. There’s no explanation for these people’s irrational behavior. In a televised public address yesterday, Governor Cuomo was flummoxed by the number of people he saw socializing and mingling as normal on Saturday in a park in New York City, despite his recent orders to social distance one selves.

A close friend of mine, whom I already knew was a denier type, went ahead with a birthday party he had planned for on Saturday. I and a few other guests politely bowed out but that didn’t stop him from having the party. You just can’t figure some people, I don’t know what they are thinking.

all we can do is hope for the best but plan for the worst in the face of situations we have no control over. I’ll keep in touch with close family and remind them all to stay safe and follow the safe protocols, and that’s all you can do. I have group chats all day long with three of my sisters and that provides a lot of comfort to us all.
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