Maintenance for Sealed Bottom Bracket? Also, 7-Speed Cassette?
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Maintenance for Sealed Bottom Bracket? Also, 7-Speed Cassette?
OK, amateur here trying to research some basic vintage bike mechanics (slow work day). Looked up the catalog entry for my '89 Trek online and it says it has a "sealed" BB. Does this mean the BB doesn't need cleaning and repacking?
Question two, I assumed given the age this bike had a freewheel, but catalog says 7-speed cassette. I assume they're not just using the two terms interchangeably here, that it actually is a cassette?
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Question two, I assumed given the age this bike had a freewheel, but catalog says 7-speed cassette. I assume they're not just using the two terms interchangeably here, that it actually is a cassette?
Thanks everyone as usual.
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Sealed BBs do not require service, just replacement when worn out. Some folks try to open them up and grease them but I don't.
Cassette or freewheel? https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
Cassette or freewheel? https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
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Sealed BBs do not require service, just replacement when worn out. Some folks try to open them up and grease them but I don't.
Cassette or freewheel? https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
Cassette or freewheel? https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
Yes, I could probably answer this myself by just taking it apart and looking, but haven't had the time...
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If you would take the time to read the article I linked to you will see this phrase and a picture: "Shimano Cassette Freehub, showing characteristic bulge on the right side of the body." No need to take anything apart, just look.
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I did read it. Hence the quote in my previous post. And the article said some, not all, have the bulge...
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There are some 7 speed cassettes. Someone a few days ago had an issue posted here. I thought he was mistaken when he referred to his as a cassette, but he was correct. However back then, I think that there were some marketing catalogs and other literature that used the terms loosely since cassettes and free hubs were the new thing to have, and they wanted their freewheels to sound more modern than they were.
There was also, a free wheel that did have a cassette that was more easily changed than what the typical freewheels were.
There was also, a free wheel that did have a cassette that was more easily changed than what the typical freewheels were.
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"Sealed" can mean several things when it comes to bottom brackets. I have seen regular cup and cone bottom brackets that had seals in the cups that would keep dirt out of the inner workings. Similarly, the Campagnolo Record bottom bracket from my 1973 Raleigh Professional had reverse spiral "seals" that would actually throw road dirt and grit out as I pedalled. I could leave the bottom bracket for extended periods and the grease in the cups would stay very clean for a long time. Sealed cartridge bottom brackets are another thing entirely. They are very durable, not serviceable, and require no maintenance until they wear out. I no longer own my Professional, but the semi sealed bottom bracket from that bike is still as smooth and friction free as it was in 1973
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OK, amateur here trying to research some basic vintage bike mechanics (slow work day). Looked up the catalog entry for my '89 Trek online and it says it has a "sealed" BB. Does this mean the BB doesn't need cleaning and repacking?
Question two, I assumed given the age this bike had a freewheel, but catalog says 7-speed cassette. I assume they're not just using the two terms interchangeably here, that it actually is a cassette?
Thanks everyone as usual.
Question two, I assumed given the age this bike had a freewheel, but catalog says 7-speed cassette. I assume they're not just using the two terms interchangeably here, that it actually is a cassette?
Thanks everyone as usual.
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As said "sealed " means different things. From my experience with that era Trek I'd be surprised if it had a sealed cartridge BB. Likely just means seals on a cup & cone BB.
My 84 Raleigh Gran Prix is "sealed" - Standard cup & cone with rubber seals where the spindle comes through the cups.
If it's cup & cone service it, if it's really a cartridge run it until it dies.
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My 84 Raleigh Gran Prix is "sealed" - Standard cup & cone with rubber seals where the spindle comes through the cups.
If it's cup & cone service it, if it's really a cartridge run it until it dies.
Got a picture?
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Would you post an image of the non drive side of your bottom bracket? That way we can tell if it's a sealed cup and cone unit or a sealed cartridge unit.
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
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Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
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Would you post an image of the non drive side of your bottom bracket? That way we can tell if it's a sealed cup and cone unit or a sealed cartridge unit.
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
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Yep, it has the bulge, so it is a 7-speed cassette. Puts a new wrinkle in my current quest for a budget wheel upgrade...
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Would you post an image of the non drive side of your bottom bracket? That way we can tell if it's a sealed cup and cone unit or a sealed cartridge unit.
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
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I presume it's for the purpose of buying replacement parts. If that's the case, that's definitely not a safe assumption.
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You can re-grease sealed cartridge bearings if you have the right tools & know how. You have to pluck out the plastic seal on the side. Then flush or soak the bearing to dissolve the old grease. Then, inject new lubricant into the bearing with a grease needle. Pop the plastic seal back on. That's it. That's all. Done deal.
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Would you post an image of the non drive side of your bottom bracket? That way we can tell if it's a sealed cup and cone unit or a sealed cartridge unit.
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
Yes, there were 7-speed cassettes. Most of the ones I'm familiar with were Shimano Uniglide ones where the smallest cog screwed onto the freehub body. I know some 7-speed cassettes were of the newer Hyperglide type where the cogs were held on by a threaded lockring that screwed to the inside of the freehub body. I have one freehub body here that was a hybrid design with both external threads for a Uniglide samll cog and internal threads for a Hypeglide lockring.
Cheers
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That's an adjustable cup on the non drive side. There's plain old ball bearings inside. You'll need a crank arm remover tool. Some kind of spanner hook wrench. And, one of those adjustable pin spanner things to get it all apart. (Sorry, I'm going to have to look up the names of all those tools. Maybe somebody else knows proper nomenclature.)
https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-SPA.../dp/B001B6PGHY
https://www.rei.com/product/710554/p...spanner-wrench
https://www.wish.com/product/5dc6110..._wcB&share=web
https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-SPA.../dp/B001B6PGHY
https://www.rei.com/product/710554/p...spanner-wrench
https://www.wish.com/product/5dc6110..._wcB&share=web
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Great image.
That's a cup and cone bottom bracket not a sealed cartridge one. The seals on yours are most likely just inside each cup and are set into slight recesses. They are not as well sealed as a true sealed unti.
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That's a cup and cone bottom bracket not a sealed cartridge one. The seals on yours are most likely just inside each cup and are set into slight recesses. They are not as well sealed as a true sealed unti.
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Looks like a Hatta "High Cup" cup & cone bottom bracket.
Service it or replace with a sealed cartridge unit
Service it or replace with a sealed cartridge unit
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