"Dork Disk"
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A yellowed, cracked plastic spoke protector is an eyesore. A shiny period-correct chrome one can be beautiful. A quick survey of my current bikes says that I don't have a single spoke protector remaining*. I will certainly again, some day, as the bike will self justify.
*EDIT: I just looked again more closely, I find that my wife's and my mountain bikes have their original spoke protectors. That's fine, because bad things happen to MTB drivetrains, this might save a rear wheel.
*EDIT: I just looked again more closely, I find that my wife's and my mountain bikes have their original spoke protectors. That's fine, because bad things happen to MTB drivetrains, this might save a rear wheel.
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Thanks all for your input. Based on your replies I think I'm going to replace it when I get the chance. Reading some of the posts I think I'll feel a bit better having one on, and looks are a moot point as I don't think they detract from a bike's appearance anyway.
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I don’t have a dork disk (spoke protector), so I might be wrong, but the issue I see with the current ones is that the are attached to the component they are trying to protect; the spokes.
I think the old steel ones went on the threaded section of the hub and were held on by the freewheel. The newer ones are plastic and clip onto the spokes.
So instead of shielding the spokes from the impact of a chain falling in between the lowest cog and the spokes, the spokes have to absorb the impact. I would think the current ones provide some amount of protection in keeping the derailleur/chain from getting entangled with a wheel, unless the disk breaks, but being able to attach to the hub/cassette would probably be better.
John
I think the old steel ones went on the threaded section of the hub and were held on by the freewheel. The newer ones are plastic and clip onto the spokes.
So instead of shielding the spokes from the impact of a chain falling in between the lowest cog and the spokes, the spokes have to absorb the impact. I would think the current ones provide some amount of protection in keeping the derailleur/chain from getting entangled with a wheel, unless the disk breaks, but being able to attach to the hub/cassette would probably be better.
John
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Miradaman, if your old MTB has a 7 speed 14-34t freewheel and your chain is due for replacement anyway you might want to replace the chain and freewheel because the latest Shimano 7 speed freewheel comes with a black spoke protector that is attached to it. See photo below:
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
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Miradaman, if your old MTB has a 7 speed 14-34t freewheel and your chain is due for replacement anyway you might want to replace the chain and freewheel because the latest Shimano 7 speed freewheel comes with a black spoke protector that is attached to it. See photo below:
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
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If I were going to use one with a freewheel, I'd go on ebay and pick up a nice old steel one.
It will last forever, and most people will have never seen one before.
John
It will last forever, and most people will have never seen one before.
John
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Miradaman, if your old MTB has a 7 speed 14-34t freewheel and your chain is due for replacement anyway you might want to replace the chain and freewheel because the latest Shimano 7 speed freewheel comes with a black spoke protector that is attached to it. See photo below:
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
Shimano MF-TZ510-7-CP freewheel
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A nice polished metal disk on a vintage bike, or a vintage metal disk on a more modern bike can look good.
A brittle, yellow plastic thing should be hit with a hammer in to little pieces and tossed in the trash.
The last time my rear derailleur went to spokes was when a stick got tangled in the spokes, chain, and or derailleur. The disk did not help.
A brittle, yellow plastic thing should be hit with a hammer in to little pieces and tossed in the trash.
The last time my rear derailleur went to spokes was when a stick got tangled in the spokes, chain, and or derailleur. The disk did not help.
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I've never run a dork disk and no one I ride with does either. BUT. On a long group ride I came upon a friend with her chain jammed behind her cassette. She was climbing a steep hill and something went wrong. Neither of us could free it. Looked impossible w/o a cassette lockring tool and wrenches. So, call of shame. It happens that the sag driver is now her boyfriend, so not all bad that day. Made me think again about that disk, but I didn't go home and put one one, either. So far, so good. It's one of those things: a once in a lifetime accident - she probably has a couple 100 thousand miles behind her - against a few grams of disk. No disk is like saying, "I never make a mistake." So there's that egoism thing to deal with. She didn't put a disk on her bike.
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While mountain biking it is possible to get vines, twigs, rocks, sticks, logs, or legs into the drivetrain, and force the chain off the largest sprocket into the spoke side, even if the derailleur limit screw is properly adjusted. This rarely happens though. Still, I do think this vulnerability exists and represents a place for improvement. I have no ideas for a remedy. Dork disks are probably not going to be an acceptable solution for the present market. Maybe super light carbon fiber integral dork discs?
I'm fairly certain that some of the old equipment I used to ride on had rear derailleurs with springs inside the limit set-screws which are supposed to help prevent them from backing-out and falling out of adjustment. This may have been the cause of some bad chain drops. The intense vibrations of hard-tail mountain biking can be extreme.
Thread locking compounds are really essential.
I'm fairly certain that some of the old equipment I used to ride on had rear derailleurs with springs inside the limit set-screws which are supposed to help prevent them from backing-out and falling out of adjustment. This may have been the cause of some bad chain drops. The intense vibrations of hard-tail mountain biking can be extreme.
Thread locking compounds are really essential.
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Interestingly, Campagnolo 12 sp cassettes have a little lip for hub protection.
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I've had/have a buncha bikes. I don't feel the need for a dorkdisk on any of the road bikes but every one of the past and current (both dualies) MTB's have the plastic on them and I feel no shame.
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I think it depends on the quality of the components. If you are using a older dept store bike then you probably should have a dork disk.