Dr Bianchi

Hello folks i am new member here i got this bianchi last month any idea what year is this just finish cleaning ,polishing and replace the seat and chain.




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martl

Victory group means 1985+; also see https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...h-bianchi.html for a sibling

T-Mar

It's a 1985 Bianchi Vittoria. 1985 was the only year for the Bianchi Special by Columbus tubeset.

T-Mar

That's not a 1983 model. I suspect you meant 1993.

martl

Also it seems to be a very original specimen in very good condition, so congratulations are in order i wonder how many survived with the blue rubber rings on the brakes intact?

T-Mar

Let alone how many Bianchi from this period survive with an intact model name decal!
Unfortunately, the tubeset decal didn't survive the repair stand. However there are aftermarket replicas available.

Dr Bianchi

Thanks T-Mar

T-Mar

Don, I know you're still around, so I thought I'd resurrect your post from my sabbatical period. I think you'll agree that the subject bicycle is pretty basic for the era with stamped dropouts, no shift lever bosses, brake safety levers, 27"rims, swaged crankset and a rear derailleur with a steel parallelogram. In other words, it's fairly typical of upper entry level.

I believe that AR stands for Alta Resistenza, which translates literally to high resistance, which means high tensile steel. Rinforzati translates to reinforced, which means butted. Manufacturers started using butted, high tensile steels in the mid-1970s on upper entry level models and lower mid-range models. It was lighter than plain gauge steel, but less expensive than chromium-molybdenum or manganese-molybdenum alloys. They started to disappear in the very early 1980s with the advent of butted, carbon-manganese alloy tubesets. The 1982, Japanese manufactured version of the Sport SS used a butted, carbon-manganese tubeset.

If you still have the bicycle, it would be interesting to know the seat post diameter. It may raise the confidence level in my theory. Also, I don't believe that you ever posted the serial number, which I would appreciate having for my database. TIA.

Don Buska

Oh my T-Mar I'd written this question off many years ago and it was one of my early bike purchases before I had established a decent understanding of what I was really looking for. Thanks for the information of the tubing. Yes, even at the time of the purchase I didn't even consider the stamped dropouts being a major indicator of placement in the quality hierarchy. I've learned a great deal since then Thankfully I do keep spreadsheets on all my bikes so getting information on everything is easy. The S/N is BS18874 and the seat post is 26.8. Today I knew it was most likely hi-ten steel as the base bike came in just under 27 lbs. Early on I did upgrade it to the 1st Gen Suntour Cyclone line and changed to a much better SR Aerox crank set. However, I haven't really ridden the bike in the past few years and do plan on selling it. I kept all the original components and will return it to that setup (Suntour 7 series and that cheaper SR crank) and sell it off this Spring. Since it's still like new condition I should be able to get my original expenditure back on it, as it sure is a pretty looking bike for the casual user who want a nostalgic bike from the past.

Thanks again for the details on the bike. It may not be the lightest, but it is indeed nicer than the 30+ lb Sears/Penny's variety

T-Mar

Don, thank-you for the update and additional info. FYI, it's a Japanese manufactured frame from February 1981, so it's a 1981 model. Based on the Japanese origin, year and seat post diameter, my leading candidate for the Bianchi AR tubeset is Ishiwata 0265. It was a double butted high tensile tubeset that used a single butted seat tube with a 26.9 mm inner diameter. That's perfect for a 26.8mm post. There was a comparable Tange tubeset but Ishiwata is more common on Bianchi of the era.

runlebec

New to the forum and I'm trying to put together a bike my son got that had been made into a cycle cross bike. There is a 2L stamped on the right side of the seat tube, and 466 on the left side. There is also "GIPIMME" on the dropouts. I am curious as to the year etc and what type of bottom bracket threads it may have.

Thank you for any suggestions.

runlebec

I got both sides of the bottom bracket out. It is a 70mm shell and has Italian threads. One side was really tough to remove. I'm still curious about the year though.

T-Mar

The serial number and location indicates that it was manufactured in Italy during 1982, though it could be a 1983 model. Bottom bracket threading should be Italian (36mm x 24TPI).

runlebec

Thank you, I will post a picture if I ever get to 10 posts...

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Clancy1

Quick call out to TMar and co, Its an 89 model and I think it may have been a custom made frame due to the extra code on the BB. does anyone have any ideas of its background ?? cheers Cam

T-Mar

As stated in your other thread, this appears to have the engraved/etched head emblem and other traits that are consistent with an X4.

Bianchigirll 

Was it the one on the 'drive side' aka right side? They are called fixed cups and are torqued on pretty tight. They can come loose if not properly re-tightened when installed.

Bianchigirll 

Where is this or more importantly where did you get it from? I don't like to get involved in X4 debates because I suspect they were specced mush differently in different markets. I kinda agree with T-Mar on this except for the rear triangle. Very few Bianchi frames sported chromed triangles in the US market prior to '92ish and the ones after that time normally had vertical dropouts. Whether chrome was offered on x4s in other markets I am not sure but they are normally in Celeste or the black/Celeste "Argentine" scheme. There is the possibility that these frames were chromed under the paint (I can't recall if Bianchi did that for sure but I seem to recall a nasty scratch on my '88 Super Leggera's fork that had chrome showing through) and that whoever repainted the frame left it bare. If the chrome won't shine up and stay shiny like a 59 Cadillac's bumper this is likely the case.

The TSX decal is dubious as well but the only TSX reference I know off the top of my head is from the '93 Reparto Corse catalog and has completely different frame features.

RATZ! I was going to say something else but I was proof reading it got lost.

Of course just after I hit post. To my knowledge the only customizing Bianchi ever offered to individual buyers was a change in top tube length on the early Columbus MAX frames but IIRC it might added like 6+/- months to delivery time. Customizing may have been different when they had sponsorship agreements with local shops and teams and they ordered a large number of frames.

runlebec

It was the one on the left side, it had a little rust in there and I worked it back and forth with some Kroil sprayed in there to get it loose.

neill mackay

Hi I own a bianchi Reparto Corse with a very similar s/n number mine is 0901340101 and wondered if you found any details on the cycle as the s/n deos not conform to what other forums say
regards neill mackay

jako3344

Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum, so forgive me if I am doing something wrong.

I am in the process of buying my first road bike and I am hunting for a vintage Bianchi.
I have found something which I would probably buy, but before I do that I would like to know what is the model and year of production for this bike.

Thank you in advance for your help.

I am trying to upload pictures from my hard drive not urls and I cannot do it. I am getting message that I cannot post urls until I have 10 posts.

The serial number from what I can see is B*9 (top row) 1282 (bottom row)

Can someone help?










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T-Mar

Welcome tot he forums. Based in the serial number, in conjunction with the Columbus Cromor decal, the subject bicycle is a 1989 mid-range model. I don't know the name as this is a European model, based on the decal style. The equivalent USA model was the Campione d'Italia, though the only thing in common is the frame. I'm not aware of Gian Robert still being in the derailleur business in the very late 1980s. and these look like earlier derailleurs, so I suspect the bicycle has been rebuilt at some point.

Link to the OP's photos: https://www.bikeforums.net/g/picture/17581570

jako3344

Thank you very much T-Mark,

This puts some light on it.

The current owner claims that it's the 1982 model. If anyone else has some more ideas please feel free to share it.

I have updated the album with pictures, so the link above might not work. Please check my album for reference.

bikeforums.net/g/album/17581421

Thank you!!!