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Why are roadies going 1x11 or 1x12?

Old 07-24-19, 11:06 PM
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The crazy thing is, Iím over here hanging on his every word...
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Old 07-25-19, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas View Post
Custom. I believe itís 64cm (C-T) but TT only 56cm for my disproportionately short torso.
Toe overlap?
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Old 07-25-19, 12:41 AM
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Until I see you posing with your bike I really don't want to hear it. You of all people have no right talk seeing you are the most inexperienced beginner cyclist here.

But I'll make a deal if you share a picture of yourself with you and your bike holding a hand written sign that says seattleforest I will post my 295 pound body on my madone in bike forums...along with a copy of the receipt...and yes, it was a lightly used demo model which people seem to forget which is why I got the discount.

Once I post that I do need fitment help as my knees are hitting my stomach when in the drops. It's very uncomfortable. I am thinking I might need a stem riser in the short term until I lose more weight.
Still waiting to hear why the Madone is a terrible bike?
It might be the wrong fit for you and not suit your riding but that doesn't mean its terrible.
Just means you bought the wrong bike.
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Old 07-25-19, 02:08 AM
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Cho mama......won buys rule!
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Old 07-25-19, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
Toe overlap?
Yes. Itís not really an issue if you are aware of it.
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Until I see you posing with your bike I really don't want to hear it.
Your turn to pose. Oh. Wait. You have been all along.


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Old 07-25-19, 05:36 AM
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Hereís my Litespeed Ti.
Iím definitely going to ditch it this week though because I just figured out that without paint it is less visible and too dangerous to ride in foggy conditions
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Old 07-25-19, 06:08 AM
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All my 9 bikes have been converted to 1x except my two pure road bikes (2x).

Anybody still riding a triple in this day and age might as well go around with a sign around their neck that says, "Please don't take me seriously as a cyclist."
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Old 07-25-19, 06:20 AM
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There you have it. 1x is for people who can't remember to put the chain on the big ring for the photo shoot.
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Old 07-25-19, 06:29 AM
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What's going on with the guy stuck under the table?




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Old 07-25-19, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by redlude97 View Post
1x chainrings and chains need to be replaced 2-3x more often. The narrow-wide teeth wear a out quicker amd you cant run the chain to the same elongation before shifting and chain drops become an issue. Just ask the majority if cyclocross racers. Usually a chainring is good for 1 season if raced and chains about the same unless you rotate multiple
I wouldn't ask racers anything, ever. They would put on a new chainring before every single event if they believed there was any competitive advantage to be had.

I put 15k miles on a RaceFace narrow-wide, and only changed it because I went to a different tooth count. My chains all last 3,000 miles, give or take a few hundred.

I get pretty much the exact same service life out of the parts on my 2X bike, save for the cassette. The big pinned xD on the 1X bike lasts forever.
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What's going on with the guy stuck under the table?




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And is it relevant that Boris Johnson is sitting there?
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Old 07-25-19, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
What's going on with the guy stuck under the table?




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LOLZ! Never noticed that. Have always been too busy admiring my good looks.

The photo was shot at a place called Gem Mountain outside of Phillipsburg, MT. It's a sapphire mine. You buy buckets of dirt and pan for the gems. That square thing on the table is the sieve that you use. After washing a pile of dirt you go to your table and pick through it with tweezers. Lather, rinse, repeat until your bucket is empty. He likely dropped something on the ground. I got a total of 16.35 karats of sapphires, but they are all to small to heat treat and make into jewelry.

It's a very popular place. At peak times you are wise to make a reservation. The people who work there are super nice and work mostly for tips. The woman who showed me how to wash and what to look for took the photo.
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Old 07-25-19, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Your turn to pose. Oh. Wait. You have been all along.
How do we know he even owned this old Litespeed?

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Old 07-25-19, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup View Post
How do we know he even owned this old Litespeed?

I mean, would you claim to own admit to owning that if you didn't?
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Old 07-25-19, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by onyerleft View Post
All my 9 bikes have been converted to 1x except my two pure road bikes (2x).

Anybody still riding a triple in this day and age might as well go around with a sign around their neck that says, "Please don't take me seriously as a cyclist."











Whatev!!!
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Old 07-25-19, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
I mean, would you claim to own admit to owning that if you didn't?


Fair point
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Old 07-25-19, 08:06 AM
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I mean, would you claim to own admit to owning that if you didn't?
Lol. Here we go jealousy rears itís ugly head again.
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Whatev!!!
Ignore him. He's another one whose claims are suspect.
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Originally Posted by Dean V View Post
Still waiting to hear why the Madone is a terrible bike?
It might be the wrong fit for you and not suit your riding but that doesn't mean its terrible.
Just means you bought the wrong bike.
I donít think the madone is terrible itís a excellent bike. Itís just terrible in comparison to the ride and looks of the vortex. With the madone I feel like every other guy with a carbon bike...that Iíll probably sell it down the road with no regrets. The vortex I regret selling but oh well.
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The vortex I regret selling but oh well.
Something tells me you'll get it back.
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Old 07-25-19, 08:21 AM
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Since the OP clearly hasn't seen a Madone, let's just admire. Aero. Clean lines. No exposed cables up front. The cush (or firm) ride of adjustable IsoSpeed. A beauty and a beast at the same time.


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Old 07-25-19, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by downhillmaster View Post

Hereís my Litespeed Ti.
Iím definitely going to ditch it this week though because I just figured out that without paint it is less visible and too dangerous to ride in foggy conditions
That bike is beautiful.

However, you know you should pitch it for a crabon fiber disc brake 1X, right?
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Originally Posted by MyTi View Post
Lol. Here we go jealousy rears it’s ugly head again.
So.....Where's the photo? Noodle & I came through. Your turn.

BTW...Proper punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma!" and "Let's eat grandma!".

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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Since the OP clearly hasn't seen a Madone, let's just admire. Aero. Clean lines. No exposed cables up front. The cush (or firm) ride of adjustable IsoSpeed. A beauty and a beast at the same time.



I never said the madone wasn't a good looking...but it pales in comparison to a bear Ti frame. Most high end carbon bikes are pretty good looking, for me it's just knowing how it's made. Not saying it's easy to make...it is not...but just knowing it's composed of carbon fiber inlays and injected with resin to fill in all those gaps and then put in what is essentially an oven....bleh. It's not a big deal though I know carbon fiber can last a lifetime like Ti it's just not as durable....


And there is also the actual feel of metal. When you touch a bear Ti frame it feels real...almost like a prime Halle Berry. When you touch a carbon fiber bike...it's like touching plastic...or Kim Kardashian if you will. The metal just feels better like it's real. Obviously carbon fiber is very strong, it's a great material. Just boils down to what you like. I got nothing against Trek they produce great bikes and I'm proud to own the Madone.



And getting a good deal on the madone helped lessen the blow of that reality I suppose along with the advantage of disc brakes...I still feel the madone was worth the downgrade. I figured after a few years I could sell the frame for a good price any way when I get tired of it.

Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
So.....Where's the photo? Noodle & I came through. Your turn.

BTW...Proper punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma!" and "Let's eat grandma!".
Still waiting on SeattleForest to produce his. The deal was with him. Besides you posted a picture of what obviously is a fit male model for some kind of vacation ad.

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