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Same boat here. I'm in NW burbs and like to go on long rides. I mostly stick to roads, but some trails that are crushed limestone. I average around 14 mph, and get tired of all the road bikes passing me when I'm pumping as hard as I can! But I don't think my back could handle the drop down bars, so I stick to my DS3
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Has anyone been able to confirm the 2021 DS 4 actually has the Suntour NRX air suspension instead of the coil spring suspension? Trek's website for the bike states "SR Suntour NRX RL, remote lockout, preload, 100x5mm QR, 63mm travel" but there is no mention of air suspension. Suntour's website lists these two NRX models, NRX D RL DS 700 (coil spring) and NRX E RL AIR DS 700 (air spring).
Rather disappointing for a bike that costs $1150.
#2029
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That is unfortunate. It seems that most people looking for an improved suspension on their Dual Sports have installed the Rockshox Paragon Gold RL fork. Are there other options? Has anyone installed the Rockshox Judy? Or is the Rockshox Paragon Gold RL the best bet?
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I and others like the Paragon. Scroll up and you will see several bikes with this upgrade.
Other options could be:
SR Suntour NRX-D Air - This is both a coil and air hybrid type of suspension.
SR Suntour NRX-E Air - Pure air like the Paragon and cost is close to the Paragon.
Both of the above Suntour's are used on Canyon Pathlite series Hybrid bikes if your curious as to what they look like on a bike.
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Long distances are no problem at all on a DS type hybrid, given that the fit is right for you. However, bar ends (or "bar inners", i.e. bar ends positioned inboard the grips), or a handlebar that allows for multiple hand postions is a very good idea. Regarding hills, sure, a road bike is lighter and therefore better on the climbs, but if speed if no great importance, you can climb just about any hill on a hybrid too. DS type hybrids usually have lower gearing than road bikes, so that may help.
Longest ride I've done so far on my hybrid is 172km (107 miles), but I routinely do 60-100km rides; lately 60 km rides are done twice a week and I try to squeeze in at least one 100km a month.
Longest ride I've done so far on my hybrid is 172km (107 miles), but I routinely do 60-100km rides; lately 60 km rides are done twice a week and I try to squeeze in at least one 100km a month.
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just because your 100% comfortable doesn’t mean everyone else will be. I got 700mm bars and the best thing I did is leave my steerer 1/2” taller than oem. My general ride is about 40 miles. Can’t say I’ve ever seen more expensive bikes broken down. As for flats, I’ve seen all bikes get them along with mine 2018 ds 2
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I too had to raise my bars a bit and it’s been so much better since. Not a fan of the look, but my back sure does thank me! Longest I’ve gone is 50 miles, I’d love to get up to 75 this season. I just don’t fuel myself properly for such a long ride. The bike does just fine!
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Your back is a million times more important than the 'look'.....The older u will immensely thank u ...good for u taking the correct steps.
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Same boat here. I'm in NW burbs and like to go on long rides. I mostly stick to roads, but some trails that are crushed limestone. I average around 14 mph, and get tired of all the road bikes passing me when I'm pumping as hard as I can! But I don't think my back could handle the drop down bars, so I stick to my DS3
I also changed the ergonomics of the bike, since I have compressed cervical vertebrae. I bought 50mm riser bars, cut down from 800mm to 650mm and a shorter, higher stem. Lastly, I bought a Brooks Imperial Flyer (now called the Flyer Carved) and I can go all day now.
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I just ordered a riser for the bar, I have long legs relative to a short upper torso and arms so for me the "standard" ergonomics never fit.
#2038
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I’ve been thinking about doing some “ergonomic” changes to the bike.
Actually I’m considering a rigid carbon fork & stem, swept back bars, fatter tires, new rear wheel w/ 3 speed internal hub, single gear up front, and a wider seat with swept back seat post.
Consider it a Cruiser build. Lol
or just trade it in on a light weight cruiser but the lightest I can find is 30 lbs. the DS-Cruiser would be sub 26 I bet... hmmm
Actually I’m considering a rigid carbon fork & stem, swept back bars, fatter tires, new rear wheel w/ 3 speed internal hub, single gear up front, and a wider seat with swept back seat post.
Consider it a Cruiser build. Lol
or just trade it in on a light weight cruiser but the lightest I can find is 30 lbs. the DS-Cruiser would be sub 26 I bet... hmmm
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LOOOONG time lurker here. Just picked up a 2021 DS4. Love it so far. Am using it to commute to work. Which brings me here, can anyone recommend a set of full coverage fenders that will work particularly with the front fork?
My local Trek shop tried installing a set of Bontrager NCS and while they are wide enough, the front fender doesn't mount very well since the mounting point on the fork is further away than the NCS front fender mounting point allows for. They tried rigging something up where they created a spacer to put in between the fork screw hole and the mounting tab of the front fork (hope that makes sense) to make up the gap but once you hit a few big bumps, it goes all out of alignment.
I've looked at SKS, Velo's, but I'm worried they would all have the same issue.
Gotta love how the Trek site claims the DS is easy to accessorize like adding fenders - yet they don't state which ones are compatible!
My local Trek shop tried installing a set of Bontrager NCS and while they are wide enough, the front fender doesn't mount very well since the mounting point on the fork is further away than the NCS front fender mounting point allows for. They tried rigging something up where they created a spacer to put in between the fork screw hole and the mounting tab of the front fork (hope that makes sense) to make up the gap but once you hit a few big bumps, it goes all out of alignment.
I've looked at SKS, Velo's, but I'm worried they would all have the same issue.
Gotta love how the Trek site claims the DS is easy to accessorize like adding fenders - yet they don't state which ones are compatible!
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2021 Dual sport 3
Finally replacing my 20 year old Norco MTB and boy are bikes hard to find right now here in Canada. Most are saying April for stock Of any brand and can’t even say that for sure. Local Trek dealer had a limited number of DS coming in about 3 weeks. So I jumped on a DS 3 large in the grey colour. Man it looks sweet in the pictures and an upgrade has been so long coming I can’t wait. Hoping to be far more comfortable and efficient on rail trail rides, light off road, streets etc.
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
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New to riding. Picked up a 2020 DS1 as a starter bike. Never though I'd love it as much as I do. Going to work on cleaning up and getting my Dad's 1984 Raleigh Prestige back on the road for a road bike.
#2042
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New Bike Day! Yesterday actually. I bought a 2021 Trek Dual Sport 2 in Gun Metal color. I bought this to use as my new daily rider fitness bike. The riding I am doing is mostly on paved trails that are very rough mixed in with some side walks end residential streets. I had been using a 2005 Trek 7500 FX for this but the roughness of the riding surfaces had been beating me up as well as breaking spokes and bending wheels as the 7500 FX has 32mm slick tires. The new bike has 40mm treaded tires and decent front suspension.
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Finally replacing my 20 year old Norco MTB and boy are bikes hard to find right now here in Canada. Most are saying April for stock Of any brand and can’t even say that for sure. Local Trek dealer had a limited number of DS coming in about 3 weeks. So I jumped on a DS 3 large in the grey colour. Man it looks sweet in the pictures and an upgrade has been so long coming I can’t wait. Hoping to be far more comfortable and efficient on rail trail rides, light off road, streets etc.
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
I was able to fit specialized fast trak armadillo 29x2.1” tires on my bike. But I think depending on what tire you go with, 2.0-2.1 inch tires is the max before you run against the front derailleur/chain stay.
mother things like a wider handlebar and shorter stem helped a bi with maneuvering. But the tires were the biggest bang for the buck for me.
Race face Chester pedals are a close 2nd for me. They grab my shoes much better
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Finally replacing my 20 year old Norco MTB and boy are bikes hard to find right now here in Canada. Most are saying April for stock Of any brand and can’t even say that for sure. Local Trek dealer had a limited number of DS coming in about 3 weeks. So I jumped on a DS 3 large in the grey colour. Man it looks sweet in the pictures and an upgrade has been so long coming I can’t wait. Hoping to be far more comfortable and efficient on rail trail rides, light off road, streets etc.
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
This has probably been covered but what are some “must have” upgrades or add ons I need to look at for rail trail rides etc. I have been so long out of the loop on new bikes and equipment it’s hard to know where to start. My researching led me to this forum so any info is appreciated. I really want to set this up to be comfortable, safe and prepared as I get more serious again about cycling. Thanks!
I was able to fit specialized fast trak armadillo 29x2.1” tires on my bike. But I think depending on what tire you go with, 2.0-2.1 inch tires is the max before you run against the front derailleur/chain stay.
mother things like a wider handlebar and shorter stem helped a bi with maneuvering. But the tires were the biggest bang for the buck for me.
Race face Chester pedals are a close 2nd for me. They grab my shoes much better
#2045
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I'm thinking of replacing my '13 Crosstrail and since Specialized no longer has that model, I've been looking closely at the '21 DS 4, which is not in stock yet around here. One of my questions is how well the gearing on that 1x setup works. Any comments from those who have one? It does not have quite as max low a ratio as my CT with its 2x10 gearing, but it's close. Top end is not as big a deal since I use mine almost exclusively for casual riding on paved and unpaved rail-trails. I have other bikes if I'm looking for speed.
#2046
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For those that upgraded to the Rockshox Paragon Gold, did you also purchase the remote lockout kit? What remote kit was it? My LBS installed the Paragon Gold RL on my DS 4 but apparently it's not compatible with the Suntour remote lockout kit.
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Nice Bike Hornfan77. I believe this is the remote upgrade for the Paragon:
RockShox Paragon Remote Upgrade
I didn't buy this for either of my bikes that I upgraded to the Paragon. Didn't feel that the slight ease of use was worth the amount of money to upgrade.
RockShox Paragon Remote Upgrade
I didn't buy this for either of my bikes that I upgraded to the Paragon. Didn't feel that the slight ease of use was worth the amount of money to upgrade.
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Thanks for the link! I had been looking at the Rockshox catalog trying to figure out if the remote upgrade kit was the oneloc or turnkey version. I think I'll hold off on ordering the remote upgrade kit to see if it's really necessary. I am pleased to see an improvement of the ride with the paragon gold air spring compared to the original suntour coil spring.
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Hornfan, is that the 65mm version? I'm considering getting this for my DS 3. Thanks in advance!