bhtooefr

He didn't say he'd kill cyclists, though.

But, seriously, I'm surprised you didn't get a ticket for the maximum fine for being that much of a dick about it. Be glad you only got off with a warning.

linus

Funny part is, track stand is not a full stop, legally speaking. Thank you for the lesson. Physics 101 never taught me that.

unterhausen

I don't see any reason why a track stand wouldn't be a full stop. They don't require a motorist to open the door and put their foot down on the ground, although sometimes I feel it would be a good idea

david58

What about a track stand isn't a legal stop?

GrouchoWretch

Nobody seriously thinks that stop signs and stoplights and all the attendant laws and customs were developed for bicycle traffic, or that they would be how they are if everyone got around by bike.

Of course, this doesn't mean a cyclist should blow intersections without looking or touching the brakes, no matter who has right of way. But there's the letter of the law, and there's the spirit of the law, and I remain skeptical of the idea that it is constructive for police to issue tickets to cyclists just for failing to come to a technically full and complete stop with the foot on the ground or whatever. Just seems like a dumb waste of time verging on harassment of cyclists.

CB HI

Because that is what they said they would do, unless of course you think that rolling a stop sign is a serious felony call.

as noted in OP

CB HI

Shoot up second blue truck.

https://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3955268.story

gmt13

Wow, such an easy jump to accept the OP interpretation of some statement made by someone to mean that only felony crimes would get any response.

I could not find any press statements by LAPD or Torrance PD to that says what the OP described. I'd expect that the police would modify the way they patrol, and this may be what was filtered through the news channels, but there is no way that the police would give an official invitation to minor scofflaws to do their thing without threat of enforcement.


-G

Dchiefransom

I think I've only seen one track stand by a cyclist that was really stopped. All the others were just slow forward motion with the front wheel wiggling. I always stop, but never put a foot down on my Trident Stowaway II.

Dchiefransom

I'd go to the DA and file a criminal complaint.

JoeyBike

Just smile and wave boys, smile and wave. - Good advice from Madagascar (the movie) and New Orleans (the city).

Everything you said would have earned you a stay in a holding cell and perhaps a mild thrashing in NOLA. Oh...and a ticket to the courthouse (otherwise known as a citation).

Old Sarge

During my forty-five years of law enforcement I heard this story, and similar ones, many times. And have heard officers use similar analogies. Basically, I think this is apocryphal but close to the truth.

Myosmith

I have never yet had a LEO give me so much as a dirty look as long as I slowed down to where I could have stopped and looked both ways before proceeding. I've even had a cop wave a group ride through a stop sign at an otherwise empty intersection. I don't come to a full stop at every stop sign and light but I realize that I'm breaking the law and if I get tagged for it, its on me, not the cop. Its no different than when I'm driving over the speed limit on a wide open, arrow-straight rural highway with virtually no other traffic. Honestly, most cops are pretty decent guys and don't want to write a bunch of BS tickets any more than you want to get them.

gcottay

Angio, thanks for this report of calm and reasonable cops. They tend to deal with so many rude and unreasonable people it's pretty easy for them to get reactive.

You may find it useful to reflect on the usefulness of your own behavior and make any changes you find appropriate. We can all make fools of ourselves but learning from mistakes enhances the quality of life.

Angio Graham

Given the police state that America has become and the history of new orleans and their utter police and political corruption i dont doubt what you say.

linus

You need to take your foot down.

CB HI

Very nice back handed slap at the OP.

CB HI

Maybe in Toronto, can you show a law that says such. There are no USA laws that I have ever read that say such.

CB HI

Look just a little bit harder.https://www.clarionledger.com/viewart...topher-Dorner-

Not to mention, it is happening in several large cities, including ones that are not even hunting cop killers.
https://news.msn.com/us/chicago-polic...-all-911-calls

Check around you can find more.

gmt13

As I said in my post, "I'd expect that the police would modify the way they patrol, and this may be what was filtered through the news channels"

And then you provide news links to back up my statement. Gee thanks, but there really was no need. Let me know if you find official statements.

-G

kmv2

Dick move by OP

spare_wheel

so true.

lostarchitect 

I roll stops all the time (note, roll, not run) , but if I get a ticket I will accept it and not whine. After all, it's against the law. I may not care, but it's still against the law. OP, just suck it up and move on.

CB HI

Maybe you do not realize official statements are often made verbally to the news media. The OP lives in the area and is more likely to see such video that often never makes it national. Do you really expect them to write and internet post everything?

gmt13

Oh sorry, I think I get it now:

1. Official statements are never made directly. They are somehow told to the press who then interpret and publish.
2. The real stories behind national news are only broadcast locally.
3. Not every official statement is actually written down anywhere.

Call me enlightened. I appreciate the new perception. I have actually seen many more motorists out taking advantage of the moratorium on enforcement. Perhaps they revel in behaving like the fantasy cyclists they secretly envy.

-G