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Old 11-10-19, 02:02 PM
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Raleigh "sprite" ?

Either a donor or a rebuild. Missing parts, but functional with great bearings all around. Not sure of year, got from original owner who thought she bought it in '74; but hub dates from '76, and paint scheme from '77. Any information would be useful. Missing front brakes, front derailleur and stock shifters. Shimano index shifter for rear was installed. Decent replacement saddle for what I assume was a vinyl covered Brooks saddle. Should make for a good gift bike. Odd "GB" alloy stem; original? Year is as usual a mystery to me.
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Originally Posted by HPL
Juvela, please excuse my ignorance, but what is an "oytoy" thread in reference to? I've never heard of the term. Thanks for the schooling! Never heard of a 68mm shell with Italian, vice 70mm without Italian thread. Was this a common practice?

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Hello HPL,

"oytoy" - me having a wee spot 'o fun

it is the phonetic spelling of the cockney pronunciation of Itai, the Brit colloquialism for Italian

apologies for any mystification

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actually there were 68mm Italian threaded shells on production bicycles

they were perpetrated by ACER-MEX on some models of early 1970's Windsor and Carabela cycles

hope this solves the mysteries...

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Originally Posted by HPL
Never heard of a 68mm shell with Italian, vice 70mm without Italian thread. Was this a common practice?
Maybe just a shell which was cut quite a bit during facing?
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Old 11-10-19, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HPL
Either a donor or a rebuild. Missing parts, but functional with great bearings all around. Not sure of year, got from original owner who thought she bought it in '74; but hub dates from '76, and paint scheme from '77. Any information would be useful. Missing front brakes, front derailleur and stock shifters. Shimano index shifter for rear was installed. Decent replacement saddle for what I assume was a vinyl covered Brooks saddle. Should make for a good gift bike. Odd "GB" alloy stem; original? Year is as usual a mystery to me.
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It is a bit of an oversimplification, but one way to think of Sprite series models is as a Record with an upright bar and mudguards.

The model of GB stem worn by the bicycle is completely standard & common. Found on gazillions of cycles from Britain. Also employed in the U.S. by Schwinn.

Non-present front mech was a Huret model 700 Luxe. Original shift levers were Huret stem controls. The machine's transfer set began in 1974. Some Sprite models of the early 1970's came through wearing Altenburger Synchron brakes.

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Originally Posted by juvela
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It is a bit of an oversimplification, but one way to think of Sprite series models is as a Record with an upright bar and mudguards.

The model of GB stem worn by the bicycle is completely standard & common. Found on gazillions of cycles from Britain. Also employed in the U.S. by Schwinn.

Non-present front mech was a Huret model 700 Luxe. Original shift levers were Huret stem controls. The machine's transfer set began in 1974. Some Sprite models of the early 1970's came through wearing Altenburger Synchron brakes.

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Odd that my first exposure to "GB" parts was on my '75 Colnago; since then I've only had that brand show up on mid-high level racers, so a surprise to see one on a sport model. Thank you for the Huret info, I'd not found anything specific other than brand.

Does that "short" rear fender seem normal (an optional part)? I can't find a catalogue example match, more akin to Tourist design than Sprite. It's original to the bike, assumed to be '76-'77 due to hub dates/paint.
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Originally Posted by HPL
Odd that my first exposure to "GB" parts was on my '75 Colnago; since then I've only had that brand show up on mid-high level racers, so a surprise to see one on a sport model. Thank you for the Huret info, I'd not found anything specific other than brand.

Does that "short" rear fender seem normal (an optional part)? I can't find a catalogue example match, more akin to Tourist design than Sprite. It's original to the bike, assumed to be '76-'77 due to hub dates/paint.
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in case you have not run across it already GB does not stand for Great Britain but rather Gerry Burgess, a maker of patio furniture

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Sprite series cycles have varied a good deal through time. There have been planetary Sprites, derailleur five-speeds, derailleur ten speeds, models with mudguards, models without. IIRC when one gets back into the 1960's there were also 26" wheel Sprites.

If you are curious as to the Sprite series you can walk through the years with them by going to the annual catalogues posted online.

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Not in the least an expert on Tube Investments products. Others can supply much more and better information.

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Old 11-10-19, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by smontanaro
Maybe just a shell which was cut quite a bit during facing?
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A most excellent and natural query!

There were cycles made this way on purpose.

During the early 1970's ACER-MEX had models of Windsor and Carabela cycles which were constructed with 68mm Italian thread shells.

Owned a new Windsor Carrera Sport at this time, a flambouyant red 23" machine. Its frame constructed of Agrati lugset and crown, Maeda forged ends with adjusters. The shell was 68mm Italian. I never had occasion to check it for maker; may have been produced by Agrati as well. Cycle kitted with Sugino Maxy chainset. Cups were Sugino Italian thread. Bottom bracket spindle "Type II" number 3S (standard double spindle for 68mm shell).

If this is not enough oddness the frame was also built with an .833 steerer. Cycle's stem was a Gran Compe of .833 dimension.

This combination of sizes unique in my experience.

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86 Team Fuji




Just traded a 1986 Miyata nine twelve for this 1986 Team Fuji looks mostly complete just needs a front wheel with a suntour sprint hub, and sprint pedals and it has shimano hoods on sprint levers, but on a whole, a beautiful bike. Not sure how easy it will be to find the front hub or the hoods. Apparently the rear derailleur and shifters have been upgraded to suntour sprint 9000

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Scored this freebie from Craigslist and picked it up this morning. I'm usually late to the part on CL but I was lucky this time. "Sadly" it' my size so this will be a keeper after a rebuild. It's got a mix drivetrain(rd is Deerhead/fd looks like a 600 Arabesque ) but the Super Maxy cranks look original. I'm thinking it's a '78.

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Old 11-18-19, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
Scored this freebie from Craigslist and picked it up this morning. I'm usually late to the part on CL but I was lucky this time. "Sadly" it' my size so this will be a keeper after a rebuild. It's got a mix drivetrain(rd is Deerhead/fd looks like a 600 Arabesque ) but the Super Maxy cranks look original. I'm thinking it's a '78.

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I'm thinking it's 20 years newer but the price is good.
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
Scored this freebie from Craigslist and picked it up this morning. I'm usually late to the part on CL but I was lucky this time. "Sadly" it' my size so this will be a keeper after a rebuild. It's got a mix drivetrain(rd is Deerhead/fd looks like a 600 Arabesque ) but the Super Maxy cranks look original. I'm thinking it's a '78.

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Well I'm thinking you hit the jackpot, your size, Deerhead, barcon's, Avocet and complete, not bad for free.
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Old 11-18-19, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oldroads
I'm thinking it's 20 years newer but the price is good.
They didn't make S10-S's in '98.
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I recently picked up a nice looking Wilier Trestina ramata for 50$. Full Campy nuevo record. It was on my top 5 dream bikes list. Cinelli handlebar/stem. Rolls saddle. GP4/Record wheels. Cant post images yet
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
They didn't make S10-S's in '98.
Ooops.
Maybe I should research a bit before I speak
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Originally Posted by 2cam16
They didn't make S10-S's in '98.
+1; not to mention they didn't have graphics anything close to that in '98 (did anyone?....). The Classic Fuji site would help with identification via the graphics, but it looks early '80s to me, maybe late '70s.
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I just realized there's no freewheel on that bike. Late '70s to early '80s is correct. I assembled a few of them during that period. Wheels are not original with those concave rims.
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Originally Posted by madpogue
+1; not to mention they didn't have graphics anything close to that in '98 (did anyone?....). The Classic Fuji site would help with identification via the graphics, but it looks early '80s to me, maybe late '70s.
Sadly that site is gone since the owner passed away.
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^^^^^ Precisely why I said "would" help.
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Huret something

Probably doesn't work, but would be a nice '50s build component. Time to fabricate!
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Huret shifter but it's a Cyclo derailleur, I believe.
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'50s HURET COMPETITION Rear Derailleur

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Huret shifter but it's a Cyclo derailleur, I believe.
Sorry, photos didn't show the "Huret" on the outer plate (the only plate!). After getting it in hand, I was able to ID with Velobase as a "competition" model that should have a "pull chain" coming out of the bronze fitting similar to a IGH 3 Speed set up. I'll see if it's just missung the part or is broken off and possibly repairable. Fingers crossed on getting it operable again because I'd like to use on the '40s/'50s Lygie (Italian/French) racer running a 3 speed freewheel.
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Wonder if it's "badge engineered?" Here's my Cyclo Benelux conversion setup to make a Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub into a 9-speed.
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Early Huret/Cyclo Derailleurs

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Wonder if it's "badge engineered?" Here's my Cyclo Benelux.
Good question! They do seem mighty similar. Same "pull chain" actuator design. Although, you the Huret has no upper pivot, one solid plate; whereas the Cyclo does, if I'm not misinterpreting the photo. Not having broken the unit down, I was curious to know if the "pull chain" assy was readily removable or permanently fixed to the inner mechanism? I now know that I need that chain, hoping it's similar to the S-A type and can be interchangeable (with some modification) since I've got a spare indictor spindle or two in the bin.
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At $50 it wasn't a steal but not a bad deal for this entry level Sport Tourer Miyata 112. Its gonna be my Trainer bike this winter and then get a refresh in the spring


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I don't think you can go wrong with that Miyata for $50. It is in nice shape, has good components and being from Miyata, it probably rides really well. In addition, being that it is lower end, you can do more with it without worrying about spoiling the value of it. It is yours to do what you want with it.

By the way, I am a sucker for those nice brazed fork crowns and curved forks.
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