Princess_Allez

Does anyone know if their current frameset sale is really a sale, or are the prices slashed/reduced all year long? If it really is a sale, I'm thinking of picking up a frameset to build over the winter.

I'm looking for a bike that would have similar geometry to a Specialized Tarmac. My reasoning is that I already own an Allez Sprint, for when I feel like pretending to be fast. A Tarmac-like Lynskey frame would be better suited to longer rides and climbing, but still sharp enough on descents. It seems the r480 is their race geometry; the helix is between a race and climbing bike; and the 270 and premiere are more comfort oriented. I don't like the tubing shape of the Helix. I'm leaning towards the 480 just based off looks. Can someone wither personal experience comment on the differences in feel?

chainwhip

The (Lynskey) is for the oldest of the old with lots of money; simple.

j/k

shelbyfv

I just checked the website and I don't think you'll see frame prices lower than what they have now. If you want something for longer rides, the 270 might be a better choice than the 480.

Princess_Allez

That's me!

thehammerdog

Goodie for you
get one you will love it

Pridedog

I have the Helix and have no issues with shape of tubes. After a few rides you forget they're twisted. But I do enjoy relating the story why they are twisted.

Chi_Z

$1400 for GR270 is a great deal, i am just not sold on the 1800g frame weight, there are steel frames lighters than that

pvillemasher

They have sales quite often, but it seems that their end of season sales are the lowest prices. I got mine in September a couple of years ago, and the prices seemed to always be at least a few hundred $$ more the next season.

I have the R250 which is just a 270 of 2 or 3 years ago. I love mine.

SCTinkering

I'm seriously jonesing for a Helix Sport, but once I get it kitted out, well it's too much of a bite considering my 16 year old Airborne Ti is still going strong. Sure better head tube & fork, disc out back, but that's about it really.

For those that are Ti curious and have the money, this is your chance. You (probably) won't regret it.

aliasfox

I have an R270, took her out for 49 miles today. Very comfy.

One thing I would mention - Lynskey says the R270 is compatible with 28c tires, and mine came on Conti Ultra Sport IIs in 28c (on the Vision Team 30 wheels), and there's barely two millimeters of clearance by the chainstays. In fact, the rear wheel was rubbing on the right chainstay when I got home, had to reseat the rear wheel to get it to go away. I just got some Grand Prix 4000s in 25c to see if that will fix the issue, but don't think that this bike will take just any 28c on any rim.

Princess_Allez

Can someone explain why Moots bicycles are priced significantly higher than Lynskey?

pvillemasher

I'm not sure how Moots does things, but there are a couple of ways I am aware that keep Lynskey's costs, and therefore prices, low.
One thing Lynskey does is sell direct, eliminating the markup of the bike store.
Another thing they do is they make a number of same size frames, and then they build them up and ship. This as opposed to making each frame one at a time and needing to change tooling settings for each different size frame.

Paul Barnard

The prices you are seeing are pretty darn good. If you get an extra 15% off framesets, then you'll have a hard time beating the prices. I love my Lynskeys.

RShantz

I was about to fork out the money for a Moots then ran across this thread over the weekend - thanks to the op.

I've spent time on a Moots and liked it a lot. I just couldn't justify the additional cost. On a gravel bike with the same groupset, comparable wheels, and comparable other stuff the Moots was $7k (from wrenchscience.com) while the Lynskey was $3,800.

Princess_Allez

Glad to be of service!

Princess_Allez

I kinda figured their direct sales and build process, but the disparity in pricing still seemed too great to me. Long live the direct to consumer business model! I just wasn't sure if there was some superior tooling or raw materials I wasn't aware of.

downhillmaster

Someone has issues

Fox Farm

Moots does send their Ti tubes to the UK for Reynolds to sculpt the insides, butting and fluting and then ships them back to Colorado where they are assembled. I have not ridden one but I do ride an original Merlin and like the ride characteristics of titanium. I also ride a carbon Orbea Orca, also nice. I would say that titanium is much more durable than carbon.

RShantz

Do you know if Moots ships the Ti to the UK b/c they don't have the capital to do so themselves or is it that Reynolds has superior craftmanship? This seems terribly inefficient.

shelbyfv

I think Lynskey butts their tubes in house, FWIW. They were building Ti stuff for the chemical industry and others long before they got into bikes. In my riding group there are more Moots than Lynskeys by a good margin, but no complaints from either camp. There is nothing apparent to me, looking at the actual bikes, that would account for the price difference. There is more "hand holding" with Moots since they involve the LBS.

Princess_Allez

He's just quoting a joke that I made, from a different post about a typical, Specialized Roubaix owner

masi61

That does seem quite heavy. I wonder what part of the frame is overbuilt?
My Wittson Illuminati disc ti frame I’m building up is listed as ~ 1440 grams for the frame. When I see current carbon frame weights routinely listed @ below 1,000 grams I’m kind of amazed. It makes me want to try to save some weight somewhere else on the build such as the wheels & maybe lighter weight disc calipers.

Marcus_Ti

The yoke design permits wide rear tire clearance but increases the weight quite a bit.

Fox Farm

I would write to Moots to ask them about this. Cyclist magazine did a good review of the Moots RSL a few years ago.