Help with Handlebar Choice
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Help with Handlebar Choice
I own a Giant Fastroad hybrid with a straight flatbar. For comfort, I was thinking of getting a riser bar and from what I've read, I should be looking for something with at least a 15 degree sweep and a rise of "?". If the specs on Giant's website are correct, the bars I have are 540mm, but most of the ones I've seen are much longer. Is cutting them down something to consider (and by how much), and can someone offer suggestions as to brands? Thanks.
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I own a Giant Fastroad hybrid with a straight flatbar. For comfort, I was thinking of getting a riser bar and from what I've read, I should be looking for something with at least a 15 degree sweep and a rise of "?". If the specs on Giant's website are correct, the bars I have are 540mm, but most of the ones I've seen are much longer. Is cutting them down something to consider (and by how much), and can someone offer suggestions as to brands? Thanks.
That aside, sweep and rise are a function of your preference, not anyone else's. More sweep and/or rise will put you in a more 'upright' position. Is that what you are looking for?
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I note the bike already has bar ends; are you alternating between the grips and bar ends? If yes, then it's reasonable to look for something else. Those stock bars are likely only 5 degree sweep or so. You could try a standard 9 degree sweep/ low-rise riser bar, and see if that helps. You should easily be able to find one, and yes ... any aluminum one can be cut down to your preferred length. The other, more extreme option might be something like a Jones H-Bar (https://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bars/).
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Nice bike!
Do you wear gloves? A minor part of my elimination of hand numbness is to wear a glove one size larger than normal. I ride a drop bar bike. I wear a size large for a normal glove. But for riding, I wear an extra-large.
Just another data point that might have some small benefit.
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Do you wear gloves? A minor part of my elimination of hand numbness is to wear a glove one size larger than normal. I ride a drop bar bike. I wear a size large for a normal glove. But for riding, I wear an extra-large.
Just another data point that might have some small benefit.
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Butterfly (Trekking) handlebars, very affordable, or the Jones bars. Try Grab On Grips to eliminate the vibration, 1/4 inch of closed cell foam. You can wrap it with gel tape or just use the grips by themselves. I use both types of h bars. The grips are great, and wider tires with lower pressure also help.
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I’m borrowing my recent post from another thread since it’s on point here.
Here’s my Schwinn with Sunlite Elson Roadster bars which I recommend highly. It’s essentially an exact copy of the shape of the Nitto/Rivendell Albatross, but just a cheap steel bar.
The bars don’t photograph easily because of the black bar tape that runs all the way up beyond the grips. That is key, all along those parts are very useful grip locations, both sitting and standing.
My overall task was aided by the fact that I had already converted to single speed, so no need for shifter decisions.
Notice also the tall stem from an old MTB. The bar height at the center is nearly an inch above the saddle height and the swept back section is another inch higher. I can stand directly over the pedals, straight up and reach the grips. I often take a break and coast in that position when heading downhill or when I need to slow down. It also does a good job of air braking.
I’ve been riding this bike about 150 miles per week mostly on crushed stone trails with no comfort issues.
Here’s my Schwinn with Sunlite Elson Roadster bars which I recommend highly. It’s essentially an exact copy of the shape of the Nitto/Rivendell Albatross, but just a cheap steel bar.
The bars don’t photograph easily because of the black bar tape that runs all the way up beyond the grips. That is key, all along those parts are very useful grip locations, both sitting and standing.
My overall task was aided by the fact that I had already converted to single speed, so no need for shifter decisions.
Notice also the tall stem from an old MTB. The bar height at the center is nearly an inch above the saddle height and the swept back section is another inch higher. I can stand directly over the pedals, straight up and reach the grips. I often take a break and coast in that position when heading downhill or when I need to slow down. It also does a good job of air braking.
I’ve been riding this bike about 150 miles per week mostly on crushed stone trails with no comfort issues.
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Dimension bars HB2048 silver, 600mm W, 70mm rise, 50 degree sweep
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Regarding cutting: I’d recommend moving your levers as far inboard as you’re comfortable with and using bartape instead of grips so as to just have a semi-multiple position bar.
regarding sweep: that’s personal and variable on mood, I think. My preferred bars effectively have 90 degrees of sweep (bullhorns and classic drops) but I also really like Bullmoose bars which I’d guess to have about 10 degrees.
Right now my main commuter has VO Postino bars with drop levers for a sorta Moustache-‘Moose functionality/look (Bullstache?) which I find both really fun, but a little unsafe without gloves. Unsafe only because my hands seem to expect a more straight section to be grabbing onto. They’re darn close to 40 degrees and thus have a lot of front-back variation which is good for my back and shoulders. Plus they’re super flexible which both smoothes out the road feel and provides some additional spring when sprinting/climbing.
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edit- I thought you were just wanting “riser” bars as an alternative to straight/flat bars.
hand numbness: yoga & core/lower back strengthening exercises. You really should only be touching the handlebars, not supporting the weight of your torso & head on them. Your weight really ought to be mostly going into the pedals. It’s a bike, after all.
If you refuse to beef up your core for lifestyle reasons or already have core/back issues that make doing those exercises contrary to any medical advice you’ve gotten, then you probably should be looking at getting a super high-rise stem and some really far pullback bars like ofajen’s rig. But then you’ll also need a wiiide saddle with springs since that’s where you’ll probably be putting your weight.
regarding sweep: that’s personal and variable on mood, I think. My preferred bars effectively have 90 degrees of sweep (bullhorns and classic drops) but I also really like Bullmoose bars which I’d guess to have about 10 degrees.
Right now my main commuter has VO Postino bars with drop levers for a sorta Moustache-‘Moose functionality/look (Bullstache?) which I find both really fun, but a little unsafe without gloves. Unsafe only because my hands seem to expect a more straight section to be grabbing onto. They’re darn close to 40 degrees and thus have a lot of front-back variation which is good for my back and shoulders. Plus they’re super flexible which both smoothes out the road feel and provides some additional spring when sprinting/climbing.
sorry for the cruddy pics
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edit- I thought you were just wanting “riser” bars as an alternative to straight/flat bars.
hand numbness: yoga & core/lower back strengthening exercises. You really should only be touching the handlebars, not supporting the weight of your torso & head on them. Your weight really ought to be mostly going into the pedals. It’s a bike, after all.
If you refuse to beef up your core for lifestyle reasons or already have core/back issues that make doing those exercises contrary to any medical advice you’ve gotten, then you probably should be looking at getting a super high-rise stem and some really far pullback bars like ofajen’s rig. But then you’ll also need a wiiide saddle with springs since that’s where you’ll probably be putting your weight.
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I have FSA Metropolis bar which is comfortable if you want upright position but it's kind of uncomfortable at times specially on hills. I have since switched to a 15 degree flat bar with bar ends, no more wrist pain and climbs feel a lot easier.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. Keep ‘em coming. I’m intrigued with the Jones bar. However, just about every website I’ve visited has them out of stock. Are they that popular? Ideally a distributor from Canada would be ideal
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If you refuse to beef up your core for lifestyle reasons or already have core/back issues that make doing those exercises contrary to any medical advice you’ve gotten, then you probably should be looking at getting a super high-rise stem and some really far pullback bars like ofajen’s rig. But then you’ll also need a wiiide saddle with springs since that’s where you’ll probably be putting your weight.
When I’m in the saddle, I’m mostly on the forward section or at or just in front of the levers, so a typical saddle (mine being that very typical Volt saddle) can work fine. I’m mostly standing when actually using the rear grip section, but I will use that part while seated from time to time for variety.
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I think you mean 640mm. There's no way your current bars are 540.
I bought some upanbike aluminum riser bars on Amazon. Available in 720 and 780mm lengths. They feel good. Lighter than stock steel.
It wont make a huge difference in terms of sitting more upright. I recommend getting a stem riser.
I bought some upanbike aluminum riser bars on Amazon. Available in 720 and 780mm lengths. They feel good. Lighter than stock steel.
It wont make a huge difference in terms of sitting more upright. I recommend getting a stem riser.
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Filpping the stem or going to a super-short high-rise angle stem can sometimes have a less than desirable effect on the bikes’ handling, especially with steep HTAs. That’s why risers exist in the first place.
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540mm was pretty standard in the days when 25.4mm clamps were the norm. Narrow straight bars are still popular with the urban-SS-Fixie set. 640mm risers were about all you needed on a 26er MTB; the 700+ long bars came with the big-wheel bikes (29ers)
Filpping the stem or going to a super-short high-rise angle stem can sometimes have a less than desirable effect on the bikes’ handling, especially with steep HTAs. That’s why risers exist in the first place.
Filpping the stem or going to a super-short high-rise angle stem can sometimes have a less than desirable effect on the bikes’ handling, especially with steep HTAs. That’s why risers exist in the first place.
I had a 32mm stem before which I tried flipping around for fun. Pretty comfortable ride, still felt pretty stable at regular speeds - but the handlebars would occasionally hit your knees and anything other than a moderate hill rendered the bike useless.
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540mm was pretty standard in the days when 25.4mm clamps were the norm. Narrow straight bars are still popular with the urban-SS-Fixie set. 640mm risers were about all you needed on a 26er MTB; the 700+ long bars came with the big-wheel bikes (29ers)
Filpping the stem or going to a super-short high-rise angle stem can sometimes have a less than desirable effect on the bikes’ handling, especially with steep HTAs. That’s why risers exist in the first place.
Filpping the stem or going to a super-short high-rise angle stem can sometimes have a less than desirable effect on the bikes’ handling, especially with steep HTAs. That’s why risers exist in the first place.
In reality, the least bad advice for the OP if they are not going to address core strength is to get a beach cruiser or recumbent and sell the FR SL1.
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going from hands in front of the steering axis to hands behind the steering axis is a weird sensation that takes some getting used to regardless of the HTA being steep or slack.
In reality, the least bad advice for the OP if they are not going to address core strength is to get a beach cruiser or recumbent and sell the FR SL1.
In reality, the least bad advice for the OP if they are not going to address core strength is to get a beach cruiser or recumbent and sell the FR SL1.
If youre just looking for a comfortable cruising position, there's no problem in doing so. The handlebars will probably hit your knees around turns though.
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Having tried them briefly I was further sold but lets face it I was sold well before that. I am currently using and liking the Surly Moloko Bars with Ergon GC-1 grips and no tape (I tried to tape at one point and just could figure a good pattern I liked but I like the position nude so it is cool. I also have tried the Velo Orange Crazy Bars and liked those in my short riding on them but had the same thoughts as Alee.
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I've tried Butterflies, Crazy Bars and Jones, really like the Jones, but if I'd seen the Denhams before I got the Jones, I'd get those. But if you are on a budget, butterflies are a good choice if you aren't going off road much.
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Some bars on bikes in my fleet:
FSA Metropolis on my "road" bike, i.e., the one I use for longer rides
Origin8 Citi Classic
Velo Orange Tourist
Generic steel bar from old Schwinn
Something that was on clearance at Niagara Cycle
This is just to give folks some more ideas of things to look at. I love my swept bars because they're comfortable on my wrists and I can ride all day long in one position. I need to ride in a more upright position due to neck and (possibly recently) back issues. But it's worth noticing what @hsuBM says... don't get to my age and have people start telling you that you should have worked on your core strength 40 years ago.
FSA Metropolis on my "road" bike, i.e., the one I use for longer rides
Origin8 Citi Classic
Velo Orange Tourist
Generic steel bar from old Schwinn
Something that was on clearance at Niagara Cycle
This is just to give folks some more ideas of things to look at. I love my swept bars because they're comfortable on my wrists and I can ride all day long in one position. I need to ride in a more upright position due to neck and (possibly recently) back issues. But it's worth noticing what @hsuBM says... don't get to my age and have people start telling you that you should have worked on your core strength 40 years ago.
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Here’s the view down the steering axis on my vintage MTB with swept back touring bars (Sunlite Elson Roadster):
In addition to some Oury grips (no need for shaped grips because there isn’t that much weight when seated, and I mostly use the grips for standing), I’ve taped the rest of the bar and will keep my hands in just about every possible place on the bars during a typical ride.
You are not limited to the grip position alone if you don’t want to be.
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In addition to some Oury grips (no need for shaped grips because there isn’t that much weight when seated, and I mostly use the grips for standing), I’ve taped the rest of the bar and will keep my hands in just about every possible place on the bars during a typical ride.
You are not limited to the grip position alone if you don’t want to be.
Otto
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