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Hi everyone. I am looking to invest in a hybrid bike to commute to work (7KM) and exercise. I am based in Calgary, so I would ideally like a bike that can handle some gravel and wet conditions, so I can use it in fall and spring. My ideal budget would be CA$600, but I'm finding that this may be difficult. I don't understand most of the bike lingo, but I am willing to pay more if the long-term benefits are going to be worth it.
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
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Hi everyone. I am looking to invest in a hybrid bike to commute to work (7KM) and exercise. I am based in Calgary, so I would ideally like a bike that can handle some gravel and wet conditions, so I can use it in fall and spring. My ideal budget would be CA$600, but I'm finding that this may be difficult. I don't understand most of the bike lingo, but I am willing to pay more if the long-term benefits are going to be worth it.
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
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Out of those options, I'd go with Trek FX2. It's generally not the best idea to get the lowest spec of a bike model. But you can look into the other brands too - there's very little differnce in component quality between brands at a given price point, but you might find one that looks and rides/feels better to you.
Regarding tires, you can swap them out for as big as the frame permits anytime if you want to; that's an easy and not expensive upgrade that may change the way a bike rides more than anything else.
Regarding tires, you can swap them out for as big as the frame permits anytime if you want to; that's an easy and not expensive upgrade that may change the way a bike rides more than anything else.
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If you had the funds for it, I would suggest the FX3, that is great bike that you would not really be wanting to upgrade much anytime soon.
IF you get a chance, look at the Giant Escapes, Cannondale Quick, Scott Sub Speed, etc, etc, etc......then make sure your aspirin or Tylenol is ready, cause you may end up getting a headache looking at it all.
BUT, if you are comfortable with the LBS, they are treating you well, and offer you some services, then that is as good as getting a bike that fits and you would enjoy.
BUT, YOU need to choose which bike fits and feels better to you. All of us are just going to give our personal opinions about things we like and can afford.
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Out of those options, I'd go with Trek FX2. It's generally not the best idea to get the lowest spec of a bike model. But you can look into the other brands too - there's very little differnce in component quality between brands at a given price point, but you might find one that looks and rides/feels better to you.
Regarding tires, you can swap them out for as big as the frame permits anytime if you want to; that's an easy and not expensive upgrade that may change the way a bike rides more than anything else.
Regarding tires, you can swap them out for as big as the frame permits anytime if you want to; that's an easy and not expensive upgrade that may change the way a bike rides more than anything else.
To some of us, bikes are becoming less of an investment and more of an addiction. Be careful when the N+1 disease hits!
If you had the funds for it, I would suggest the FX3, that is great bike that you would not really be wanting to upgrade much anytime soon.
IF you get a chance, look at the Giant Escapes, Cannondale Quick, Scott Sub Speed, etc, etc, etc......then make sure your aspirin or Tylenol is ready, cause you may end up getting a headache looking at it all.
BUT, if you are comfortable with the LBS, they are treating you well, and offer you some services, then that is as good as getting a bike that fits and you would enjoy.
BUT, YOU need to choose which bike fits and feels better to you. All of us are just going to give our personal opinions about things we like and can afford.
If you had the funds for it, I would suggest the FX3, that is great bike that you would not really be wanting to upgrade much anytime soon.
IF you get a chance, look at the Giant Escapes, Cannondale Quick, Scott Sub Speed, etc, etc, etc......then make sure your aspirin or Tylenol is ready, cause you may end up getting a headache looking at it all.
BUT, if you are comfortable with the LBS, they are treating you well, and offer you some services, then that is as good as getting a bike that fits and you would enjoy.
BUT, YOU need to choose which bike fits and feels better to you. All of us are just going to give our personal opinions about things we like and can afford.
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Not being able to get on a bike and take it for a test ride seriously interferes with your ability to pick something you feel comfortable with. Most entry level Hybrids maintain the same level of quality across various manufacturers. An $500 bike is going to be a $500 bike. There will be differences, but nothing that usually jumps out and says this bike is definitely better than that bike. Take a look online at.... Giant, Trek, Cannondale, Specialized. Pick your price-point and compare those models. Don't try and compare everything with everything. Do you want one with a front shock? Check out the tire width on each model. Disc brakes... hydraulic or mechanical? Make sure you get something that is your size. If you're not sure what that might be each manufacturer usually has a "sizing" page where you can get a general idea of your size. Don't let someone sell you a bike that might be too big or too small and then tell you that they can make it fit by making a bunch of adjustments. Before you put down your money, make sure they do a rough adjustment and you can take it for a test ride.
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Hi everyone. I am looking to invest in a hybrid bike to commute to work (7KM) and exercise. I am based in Calgary, so I would ideally like a bike that can handle some gravel and wet conditions, so I can use it in fall and spring. My ideal budget would be CA$600, but I'm finding that this may be difficult. I don't understand most of the bike lingo, but I am willing to pay more if the long-term benefits are going to be worth it.
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
That said, 8 speed is fine. Just pretty entry level these days. I would avoid the 7 speed FX1, and at least go up to the 8 speed FX2. Not that 7 speed is terrible. If you had an old 7 speed, I would say just ride it. But if I were going with something new, I would go at least with 8 speed and if I wanted to keep it for more than a couple of years, I would go with at least 9 speed.
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First, an answer to your question. Yes, the long term benefits to paying a little more is worth it, if you plan on keeping the bike for more than a year or two. Better components, lighter weight, more fun to ride. All real benefits. I hate to say this because you are looking at the Specialized as your top end, but honestly, if I were buying a new bike that was going to be my forever bike, I would be looking at least at 9 speed, with carbon fork. And that means going up in price to something like the Trek FX3, Specialized Sirrus 3.0, Giant Escape Disc, or a similar product from one of a dozen other quality brands (Cannondale, Jamis, Kona, Bianchi, Surly, etc)
That said, 8 speed is fine. Just pretty entry level these days. I would avoid the 7 speed FX1, and at least go up to the 8 speed FX2. Not that 7 speed is terrible. If you had an old 7 speed, I would say just ride it. But if I were going with something new, I would go at least with 8 speed and if I wanted to keep it for more than a couple of years, I would go with at least 9 speed.
That said, 8 speed is fine. Just pretty entry level these days. I would avoid the 7 speed FX1, and at least go up to the 8 speed FX2. Not that 7 speed is terrible. If you had an old 7 speed, I would say just ride it. But if I were going with something new, I would go at least with 8 speed and if I wanted to keep it for more than a couple of years, I would go with at least 9 speed.
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Not being able to get on a bike and take it for a test ride seriously interferes with your ability to pick something you feel comfortable with. Most entry level Hybrids maintain the same level of quality across various manufacturers. An $500 bike is going to be a $500 bike. There will be differences, but nothing that usually jumps out and says this bike is definitely better than that bike. Take a look online at.... Giant, Trek, Cannondale, Specialized. Pick your price-point and compare those models. Don't try and compare everything with everything. Do you want one with a front shock? Check out the tire width on each model. Disc brakes... hydraulic or mechanical? Make sure you get something that is your size. If you're not sure what that might be each manufacturer usually has a "sizing" page where you can get a general idea of your size. Don't let someone sell you a bike that might be too big or too small and then tell you that they can make it fit by making a bunch of adjustments. Before you put down your money, make sure they do a rough adjustment and you can take it for a test ride.
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Is it realistic for a bike to last "forever"? I'd be happy if this bike lasted 5-7ish years, but is it true that bikes like the sirrus 2 or fx2 would only last a year or two? The issue I have with my current, very cheap bike is that it is heavy and slow, and I am moving further from work and thus need something that will handle the roads well and be less of a struggle to get there. In terms of speed, the sirrus 2 that I tried seemed to fit the bill, but if is the general consensus that this bike won't last then I would be willing to go up. Hope that makes senses...
It isn't that the sirrus 2 will explode in 2 years. Far from it. But if you plan on keeping a bike 5 to 7 years, a little more money is money well spent, IMO. Not because the lower priced bike won't last, but because you will likely enjoy the better bike more.
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Basically, you get what you pay for. Any Trek FX (or other manufacturer) model will last a long time if properly maintained. The lower priced entry level models won't have quite as good of components and you may find yourself upgrading or replacing parts sooner than say with at $1500 bike. Personally, my Trek 7.4 is a great bike, but the pedals were crap and they needed replacing within a year. The bottom bracket was replaced after about 5 years. I think what you're reading into this is that the frame is going to fall apart after 2 years and you'll be SOL. That's not the case.
Keep in mind if you're going to be riding where it's wet you're going to need some fenders, a helmet, possibly a front and rear light for riding in the dark. Oh yeah, you're going to want a pump and spare tubes for when you flat. All these things are going to increase your initial cost by at least $100 - $150. You'll need a pump to take with you, You'll need some sort of saddle bag to carry everything in.
Go to the Cannondale store and tell them what you're looking for and the price you want to spend. Bike shops don't usually jack up prices on bikes. They make their money on all the other stuff and services. You don't have to think that just because you don't know anything, that the shop is going to tag on and additional $200 just because they saw you coming.
Keep in mind if you're going to be riding where it's wet you're going to need some fenders, a helmet, possibly a front and rear light for riding in the dark. Oh yeah, you're going to want a pump and spare tubes for when you flat. All these things are going to increase your initial cost by at least $100 - $150. You'll need a pump to take with you, You'll need some sort of saddle bag to carry everything in.
Go to the Cannondale store and tell them what you're looking for and the price you want to spend. Bike shops don't usually jack up prices on bikes. They make their money on all the other stuff and services. You don't have to think that just because you don't know anything, that the shop is going to tag on and additional $200 just because they saw you coming.
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I contacted my local shop and they recommended the Specialized Ariel mechanical disc or Cannondale Althea 3. Thoughts on these? Not really sure what the difference is between Sirrus and Ariel.
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The Ariel comes with a front shock.
You are aware of the gender differences within these model ranges? Although I didn't drill down in each and every bike you're interested I tried to take a little closer look and this is what I've found... If you're looking at bikes at a particular price point, most manufacturers are going to be offering some variation of the same component level no matter who you pick. The basic differences in the bikes you're looking at are...
1. Suspension or solid fork.
2. Disc Brake (hydraulic or mechanical)
3. Drivetrain speed (as MRT2 stated stay away from the 7 speed models)
Again, if you're looking at a $600 bike, you're going to get a $600 bike from any of these manufacturers. I can't definitively say one of these is superior to the other..
You are aware of the gender differences within these model ranges? Although I didn't drill down in each and every bike you're interested I tried to take a little closer look and this is what I've found... If you're looking at bikes at a particular price point, most manufacturers are going to be offering some variation of the same component level no matter who you pick. The basic differences in the bikes you're looking at are...
1. Suspension or solid fork.
2. Disc Brake (hydraulic or mechanical)
3. Drivetrain speed (as MRT2 stated stay away from the 7 speed models)
Again, if you're looking at a $600 bike, you're going to get a $600 bike from any of these manufacturers. I can't definitively say one of these is superior to the other..
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The Ariel comes with a front shock.
You are aware of the gender differences within these model ranges? Although I didn't drill down in each and every bike you're interested I tried to take a little closer look and this is what I've found... If you're looking at bikes at a particular price point, most manufacturers are going to be offering some variation of the same component level no matter who you pick. The basic differences in the bikes you're looking at are...
1. Suspension or solid fork.
2. Disc Brake (hydraulic or mechanical)
3. Drivetrain speed (as MRT2 stated stay away from the 7 speed models)
Again, if you're looking at a $600 bike, you're going to get a $600 bike from any of these manufacturers. I can't definitively say one of these is superior to the other..
You are aware of the gender differences within these model ranges? Although I didn't drill down in each and every bike you're interested I tried to take a little closer look and this is what I've found... If you're looking at bikes at a particular price point, most manufacturers are going to be offering some variation of the same component level no matter who you pick. The basic differences in the bikes you're looking at are...
1. Suspension or solid fork.
2. Disc Brake (hydraulic or mechanical)
3. Drivetrain speed (as MRT2 stated stay away from the 7 speed models)
Again, if you're looking at a $600 bike, you're going to get a $600 bike from any of these manufacturers. I can't definitively say one of these is superior to the other..
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The difference is the suspension fork on the Ariel and the Althea. It depends on how much gravel you actually plan to ride. Personally I hate suspension forks. You are playing for them in money, mechanical complexity (something that needs to be maintained), and weight. They do work better than the older ones, but even on dirt and gravel, you don't absolutely need a suspension fork. And for roads and paved trails, suspension fork is no benefit at all.
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Hi everyone. I am looking to invest in a hybrid bike to commute to work (7KM) and exercise. I am based in Calgary, so I would ideally like a bike that can handle some gravel and wet conditions, so I can use it in fall and spring. My ideal budget would be CA$600, but I'm finding that this may be difficult. I don't understand most of the bike lingo, but I am willing to pay more if the long-term benefits are going to be worth it.
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
I went to a shop yesterday and tested the Trek FX1 ($510+tax) and Specialized Sirrus 2.0 ($800+tax). I found the Specialized handled gravel better and I felt a bit more secure on cracked pavements with the "chunkier" tires. That said, it is a lot more than I planning to spend, so I'm wondering if there is a middle model that will fit my needs - or do I need to just suck it up and pay more? A Specialized Sirrus 1.0 is a bit more reasonable at $680+tax and the Trek FX2 disc is $720+tax. Otherwise, there are del Sol, Norco, Cannondale and Electra retailers in the city, but I don't know anything about these bikes.
Any help is appreciated.. particularly in layman's terms
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Of course, that's hardly a reason to choose a suspension fork, as all the mentioned drawbacks are valid points.
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My sister just picked up the Ariel as well. It's a great choice! Curious what color you got? She couldn't find the light lavender and got the blue.
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Some good advice here already. My personal input would be:
1) Don't choose a bike based on tires. If you think the FX tires are too narrow, buy bigger tires, or wait for them to wear out first (as they will in a couple of years anyway).
2) I would highly discourage you from going for a front suspension. It will add a ton of weight and, at this price range, will not be particularly good.
3) As others have written, with the popularity of hybrid bikes in the last 10 years or so, there's plenty of choice among the big manufacturers. I'm no Trek fanboy, but have always the FX line to be a good, no-nonsense lineup. I also have a soft spot for Fuji Absolutes, if you can find a local dealer.
1) Don't choose a bike based on tires. If you think the FX tires are too narrow, buy bigger tires, or wait for them to wear out first (as they will in a couple of years anyway).
2) I would highly discourage you from going for a front suspension. It will add a ton of weight and, at this price range, will not be particularly good.
3) As others have written, with the popularity of hybrid bikes in the last 10 years or so, there's plenty of choice among the big manufacturers. I'm no Trek fanboy, but have always the FX line to be a good, no-nonsense lineup. I also have a soft spot for Fuji Absolutes, if you can find a local dealer.
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With the Trek, you either go FX1 or FX3. I’ve always been puzzled why bike company use stiff aluminium for forks. Steel and carbon are much more friendly on bad city pavement.
My previous Trek was a aluminum fork Soho 2.0. It’s wasn’t fun to drive over rough city pavement.
The $200 difference for a carbon fork is too small not to save the extra coin to buy the FX3.
Aluminum forks only make sense for light duty casual riders. If you’re a riding everyday and putting on 10- 20 KM’s a day, the carbon fork will pay for itself when you’re hands don’t feel numb after riding.
My previous Trek was a aluminum fork Soho 2.0. It’s wasn’t fun to drive over rough city pavement.
The $200 difference for a carbon fork is too small not to save the extra coin to buy the FX3.
Aluminum forks only make sense for light duty casual riders. If you’re a riding everyday and putting on 10- 20 KM’s a day, the carbon fork will pay for itself when you’re hands don’t feel numb after riding.
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I agree with this, and I suspect the reason is mostly marketing. Most consumers probably think aluminum is an "upgrade" over steel (after all, the rest of the frame is made from it, right?). They see the progression as you go more expensive up the line: steel is on the 1, aluminum is on the 2, carbon is on the 3.