Help me find my replacement mountain bike!
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Help me find my replacement mountain bike!
I recently sold my Giant Anthem X0, I found it didn't have enough travel to take care of my aging body of 47 years. Heck of climber, though.
So I'm looking to replace it and would like the Forums opinion on which bike I should be looking at.
Given all these All-Mountain - XC - etc etc etc categories, well I'm kind of lost, guys.
Here are my priorities:
- ride all kinds of trails, single or double, those meant for bikes and also walkers
- most plush ride possible to absorb hits and not beat me up
- climb like a goat on uneven terrain as much as even
- light as possible (carbon worth the price?)
- budget would be up to $5000
- would prefer Shimano over SRAM
- relaxed geometry as I'm not that flexible
- I have no preference for wheel size as I'm coming from 26ers"
- as with all bikes i've ever owned, I want to look at it and drool to want to ride the heck out of it!
I'm 47 years old, 6'1, 170 lbs if that makes a difference and I like to ride for a minimum of 3-4 hours at a time up to 6-8 hours/day.
Your thoughts... :-)
So I'm looking to replace it and would like the Forums opinion on which bike I should be looking at.
Given all these All-Mountain - XC - etc etc etc categories, well I'm kind of lost, guys.
Here are my priorities:
- ride all kinds of trails, single or double, those meant for bikes and also walkers
- most plush ride possible to absorb hits and not beat me up
- climb like a goat on uneven terrain as much as even
- light as possible (carbon worth the price?)
- budget would be up to $5000
- would prefer Shimano over SRAM
- relaxed geometry as I'm not that flexible
- I have no preference for wheel size as I'm coming from 26ers"
- as with all bikes i've ever owned, I want to look at it and drool to want to ride the heck out of it!
I'm 47 years old, 6'1, 170 lbs if that makes a difference and I like to ride for a minimum of 3-4 hours at a time up to 6-8 hours/day.
Your thoughts... :-)
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Well if you enjoyed the Anthem up until now why not look into the Trance. same general suspension design with a bit more travel. I have the first generation and love it, the suspension design does make it act like it has more travel than it does.
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Well, no. Do you really need 'em? Maybe read some reviews:
Jones Plus Review - BIKEPACKING.com
https://thebicycleescape.com/2015/08...s-plus-review/
Review: Jones Plus ? Dirt Rag
https://www.outsideonline.com/196000...-mountain-bike
Jones Plus Review: Different by Design - Bikepacker
Review: Jones Plus 29+ Steel | Singletrack Magazine | Reviews
Then again, my needs are more geared towards off-road bikepacking. YMMV...
Jones Plus Review - BIKEPACKING.com
https://thebicycleescape.com/2015/08...s-plus-review/
Review: Jones Plus ? Dirt Rag
https://www.outsideonline.com/196000...-mountain-bike
Jones Plus Review: Different by Design - Bikepacker
Review: Jones Plus 29+ Steel | Singletrack Magazine | Reviews
Then again, my needs are more geared towards off-road bikepacking. YMMV...
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Ah! that's what I was missing, thanks man!
Quite fascinating that the flexing of the frame replaces the shocks, big money saver there.
Quite fascinating that the flexing of the frame replaces the shocks, big money saver there.
Well, no. Do you really need 'em? Maybe read some reviews:
Jones Plus Review - BIKEPACKING.com
https://thebicycleescape.com/2015/08...s-plus-review/
Review: Jones Plus ? Dirt Rag
https://www.outsideonline.com/196000...-mountain-bike
Jones Plus Review: Different by Design - Bikepacker
Review: Jones Plus 29+ Steel | Singletrack Magazine | Reviews
Then again, my needs are more geared towards off-road bikepacking. YMMV...
Jones Plus Review - BIKEPACKING.com
https://thebicycleescape.com/2015/08...s-plus-review/
Review: Jones Plus ? Dirt Rag
https://www.outsideonline.com/196000...-mountain-bike
Jones Plus Review: Different by Design - Bikepacker
Review: Jones Plus 29+ Steel | Singletrack Magazine | Reviews
Then again, my needs are more geared towards off-road bikepacking. YMMV...
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I recently sold my Giant Anthem X0, I found it didn't have enough travel to take care of my aging body of 47 years. Heck of climber, though.
So I'm looking to replace it and would like the Forums opinion on which bike I should be looking at.
Given all these All-Mountain - XC - etc etc etc categories, well I'm kind of lost, guys.
Here are my priorities:
- ride all kinds of trails, single or double, those meant for bikes and also walkers
- most plush ride possible to absorb hits and not beat me up
- climb like a goat on uneven terrain as much as even
- light as possible (carbon worth the price?)
- budget would be up to $5000
- would prefer Shimano over SRAM
- relaxed geometry as I'm not that flexible
- I have no preference for wheel size as I'm coming from 26ers"
- as with all bikes i've ever owned, I want to look at it and drool to want to ride the heck out of it!
I'm 47 years old, 6'1, 170 lbs if that makes a difference and I like to ride for a minimum of 3-4 hours at a time up to 6-8 hours/day.
Your thoughts... :-)
So I'm looking to replace it and would like the Forums opinion on which bike I should be looking at.
Given all these All-Mountain - XC - etc etc etc categories, well I'm kind of lost, guys.
Here are my priorities:
- ride all kinds of trails, single or double, those meant for bikes and also walkers
- most plush ride possible to absorb hits and not beat me up
- climb like a goat on uneven terrain as much as even
- light as possible (carbon worth the price?)
- budget would be up to $5000
- would prefer Shimano over SRAM
- relaxed geometry as I'm not that flexible
- I have no preference for wheel size as I'm coming from 26ers"
- as with all bikes i've ever owned, I want to look at it and drool to want to ride the heck out of it!
I'm 47 years old, 6'1, 170 lbs if that makes a difference and I like to ride for a minimum of 3-4 hours at a time up to 6-8 hours/day.
Your thoughts... :-)
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Yeah, some are a bit hard to take. The 2017 Trance Advance 1 is not too bad looking. The Giant Reign advanced 1 2017 in orange/red I think it sweet looking. I rode one this summer, and it is also sweet handling bike. Not as nice on technical stuff or uphills as the Trance Though.
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Yeah, some are a bit hard to take. The 2017 Trance Advance 1 is not too bad looking. The Giant Reign advanced 1 2017 in orange/red I think it sweet looking. I rode one this summer, and it is also sweet handling bike. Not as nice on technical stuff or uphills as the Trance Though.
I guess a can of Plastidip would solve the colour issue.
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Yeah, some are a bit hard to take. The 2017 Trance Advance 1 is not too bad looking. The Giant Reign advanced 1 2017 in orange/red I think it sweet looking. I rode one this summer, and it is also sweet handling bike. Not as nice on technical stuff or uphills as the Trance Though.
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I also tested the Santa Cruz Bronson, and the Salsa Redpoint. I liked the Trance better, but all three were great and If I was buying I would get which ever one of those three that had the best deal.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback, given the insane prices these manufacturers are demanding, I've decided to go with a Calibre Bossnut!
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I'm looking at getting one as the spec seems unreal for the price
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The 4 lbs of weight difference with a $4000 Giant Anthem Advanced is bugging me.
Now I have to decide if it's worth spending $500 per pound. LOL
I also looked into the Beastnut (Bossnut on steriods) and Calibre Online confirmed they will not have any more of them.
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Hey, not purchased yet.
The 4 lbs of weight difference with a $4000 Giant Anthem Advanced is bugging me.
Now I have to decide if it's worth spending $500 per pound. LOL
The 4 lbs of weight difference with a $4000 Giant Anthem Advanced is bugging me.
Now I have to decide if it's worth spending $500 per pound. LOL
Gain 4 lbs and your legs will get stronger, and you'll not feel it any more.
Lose 4 lbs and your legs will get weaker, and you'll not feel it any more.
*unpopular opinion*
I out climb people on my 33 lb bike with carbon frames all the time. Weight doesn't matter...
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First, give yourself another pat on the back for climbing faster than some folks on your 33 pound bike.
Now spend some time thinking about how much faster you could climb if your bike was five pounds lighter.
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This is nonsensical. Of course weight matters. Especially rotating weight.
First, give yourself another pat on the back for climbing faster than some folks on your 33 pound bike.
Now spend some time thinking about how much faster you could climb if your bike was five pounds lighter.
First, give yourself another pat on the back for climbing faster than some folks on your 33 pound bike.
Now spend some time thinking about how much faster you could climb if your bike was five pounds lighter.
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Let me explain since no one seems to get it.
It's biology (biologist here).
Let's say a body builder works his way up to 300 lbs of lift after several years of work, then you take off 30 lbs off his bar for a month(a lighter bike in this analogy). At the end of the month, he'll no longer be able to lift 300 lbs, he'll be comfortable at 270 again.
it's the same way when you bike. If you don't use the muscle (a lighter bike) you'll loose that unnecessary strength. You'll feel the weight difference at first, but your body will compensate by reducing muscle mass that's no longer needed.
Unless, of course, you train harder to compensate, which, frankly, I doubt anyone here is training constantly to keep it up.
Now, of course, extremes make a difference. A 60 lb bike would be an exception, or a professional biker who pushes his limits daily, but minor changes like 2 or 3 lbs, mostly insignificant in the end.
The human body works on feedback loops built around stressing the muscles. Break them down to build them up, conserve them to loose them.
It's biology (biologist here).
Let's say a body builder works his way up to 300 lbs of lift after several years of work, then you take off 30 lbs off his bar for a month(a lighter bike in this analogy). At the end of the month, he'll no longer be able to lift 300 lbs, he'll be comfortable at 270 again.
it's the same way when you bike. If you don't use the muscle (a lighter bike) you'll loose that unnecessary strength. You'll feel the weight difference at first, but your body will compensate by reducing muscle mass that's no longer needed.
Unless, of course, you train harder to compensate, which, frankly, I doubt anyone here is training constantly to keep it up.
Now, of course, extremes make a difference. A 60 lb bike would be an exception, or a professional biker who pushes his limits daily, but minor changes like 2 or 3 lbs, mostly insignificant in the end.
The human body works on feedback loops built around stressing the muscles. Break them down to build them up, conserve them to loose them.
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Let me explain since no one seems to get it.
It's biology (biologist here).
Let's say a body builder works his way up to 300 lbs of lift after several years of work, then you take off 30 lbs off his bar for a month(a lighter bike in this analogy). At the end of the month, he'll no longer be able to lift 300 lbs, he'll be comfortable at 270 again.
it's the same way when you bike. If you don't use the muscle (a lighter bike) you'll loose that unnecessary strength. You'll feel the weight difference at first, but your body will compensate by reducing muscle mass that's no longer needed.
Unless, of course, you train harder to compensate, which, frankly, I doubt anyone here is training constantly to keep it up.
Now, of course, extremes make a difference. A 60 lb bike would be an exception, or a professional biker who pushes his limits daily, but minor changes like 2 or 3 lbs, mostly insignificant in the end.
The human body works on feedback loops built around stressing the muscles. Break them down to build them up, conserve them to loose them.
It's biology (biologist here).
Let's say a body builder works his way up to 300 lbs of lift after several years of work, then you take off 30 lbs off his bar for a month(a lighter bike in this analogy). At the end of the month, he'll no longer be able to lift 300 lbs, he'll be comfortable at 270 again.
it's the same way when you bike. If you don't use the muscle (a lighter bike) you'll loose that unnecessary strength. You'll feel the weight difference at first, but your body will compensate by reducing muscle mass that's no longer needed.
Unless, of course, you train harder to compensate, which, frankly, I doubt anyone here is training constantly to keep it up.
Now, of course, extremes make a difference. A 60 lb bike would be an exception, or a professional biker who pushes his limits daily, but minor changes like 2 or 3 lbs, mostly insignificant in the end.
The human body works on feedback loops built around stressing the muscles. Break them down to build them up, conserve them to loose them.
When riding a lighter bike it doesn't get easier, you just go faster. You don't lose muscle mass by using a lighter bike.
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Assuming a vastly oversimplified formula, force=mass x acceleration. So, acceleration = force/mass. Reducing mass increases acceleration only because the force stays the same(legs strength).
Objects descend (fall) at the same speed regardless of weight. The only factors coming into play would be friction, drag, etc, assuming the bikes would otherwise be the same weight wouldn't apply here.
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