Getting a used Schwinn Varsity?
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Getting a used Schwinn Varsity?
I would love a road bike, I don't really care if it is faster than my Trek Hybrid or not. I really like the old Schwinn Varsity bikes. They sell for decent price on eBay , but don't know about condition or how it will ride. I can ride at 15-16 mph on trek hybrid for 20 miles as long as can ride the Schwinn varsity for 15mph for 20 miles I'm happy with that.
I really like the look of the old schwinn's. The problem is of course the fit of those bikes. A lot are like 32" from ground to top bar, which is too big for me. I am 5'5" I ride a 26" Schwinn mnt bike and my hybrid is a little smaller. Thoughts?
I really like the look of the old schwinn's. The problem is of course the fit of those bikes. A lot are like 32" from ground to top bar, which is too big for me. I am 5'5" I ride a 26" Schwinn mnt bike and my hybrid is a little smaller. Thoughts?
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An old Varsity should do fine, if we're talking steady riding on flat ground.
Well, the Varsity was Schwinn's lowest-end road bike. They were built fairly bombproof, but also on the cheap, and the result is that they're crazy heavy. These things tend to weigh in at like 35-40 pounds. Don't expect it to feel very sprightly or climb well. Expect steep climbs to be especially dubious on the stock gearing, since the lowest gears on most older road bikes aren't particularly low.
Varsitys were sold down to pretty small sizes, since they were primarily marketed toward youth.
but don't know about condition or how it will ride.
The problem is of course the fit of those bikes. A lot are like 32" from ground to top bar, which is too big for me. I am 5'5" I ride a 26" Schwinn mnt bike and my hybrid is a little smaller. Thoughts?
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Our shop recently had in a 24 inch wheel Varsity, although that probably would be too small. I am sure they were made with 19 inch frames.
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Your Trek hybrid will do everything better than a Varsity
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19 inch frame, under $100 in very good condition = pull the trigger. In your area you can always sell and get your money back if you tire of it.
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I'd try to look for something toward the later 70s since some of the latter models came with Huret rear dropouts which only use obsolete derailleurs (still obtainable, but limited to 70s and earlier models). Even better would be an 80s Schwinn. If you keep the search to pre-1986 Schwinns, there are some classy options. Of course, you could always repaint...
Also, bike prices on ebay are really out of line most of the time, pretty much "must have" pricing. Varsity's pop up around here for under $100 all the time on Craigslist. I'd look at your local co-op or bike shop. Craigslist is good but you may have to do some work (or pay a bike shop) to get the bike where you want it.
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I'm the same size as you and am always on the lookout for a small frame Schwinn. Both of my parents are from Chicago so it was always the joke in my household that my parents would not buy my a Schwinn!
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An old Varsity should do fine, if we're talking steady riding on flat ground.
Well, the Varsity was Schwinn's lowest-end road bike. They were built fairly bombproof, but also on the cheap, and the result is that they're crazy heavy. These things tend to weigh in at like 35-40 pounds. Don't expect it to feel very sprightly or climb well. Expect steep climbs to be especially dubious on the stock gearing, since the lowest gears on most older road bikes aren't particularly low.
Varsitys were sold down to pretty small sizes, since they were primarily marketed toward youth.
Well, the Varsity was Schwinn's lowest-end road bike. They were built fairly bombproof, but also on the cheap, and the result is that they're crazy heavy. These things tend to weigh in at like 35-40 pounds. Don't expect it to feel very sprightly or climb well. Expect steep climbs to be especially dubious on the stock gearing, since the lowest gears on most older road bikes aren't particularly low.
Varsitys were sold down to pretty small sizes, since they were primarily marketed toward youth.
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Your Trek Hybrid is like a light, modern, midsize SUV. The Varsity is like a 1967 Chevy Biscayne...an impossibly heavy, bottom-of-the-line, under-powered, sloppy-"handling", drudge-mobile that looks like it should be fast (it's a fastback, just like a sports car), but is, in fact, slow and a chore to drive.
I bought an old Varsity in 1993 to fix up and tinker with instead of my main commuter. The Varsity was a pig. I cleaned and repacked the bearings in the wheels, bottom-bracket and head-tube, and ran new cables and cable-housings and it was still a pig.
You could probably pick up a slightly newer, much lighter steel road bike that would be more rewarding for not much more money.
I bought an old Varsity in 1993 to fix up and tinker with instead of my main commuter. The Varsity was a pig. I cleaned and repacked the bearings in the wheels, bottom-bracket and head-tube, and ran new cables and cable-housings and it was still a pig.
You could probably pick up a slightly newer, much lighter steel road bike that would be more rewarding for not much more money.
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Well I also ride an old used Schwinn Mnt bike bought from a co-worker that is like 45 lbs and I have no problem climbing hills with that so the weight isn't that much a concern. I ride mainly on flat bike trails that have maybe a steep hill or two on the path, but for the most part it is mainly all flat riding. Even if Varsity is a little slower than Hybrid that's fine. I just want something that is not going break down on me and last that is my main concern with an old Varsity bike.
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Well I also ride an old used Schwinn Mnt bike bought from a co-worker that is like 45 lbs and I have no problem climbing hills with that so the weight isn't that much a concern. I ride mainly on flat bike trails that have maybe a steep hill or two on the path, but for the most part it is mainly all flat riding. Even if Varsity is a little slower than Hybrid that's fine. I just want something that is not going break down on me and last that is my main concern with an old Varsity bike.
FWIW, even though it is not the nicest bike I own, it is probably my favorite to ride.
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If you really must have a Varsity, you can improve it by replacing the wheels with Aluminum ones. I have an old Schwinn Speedster with aluminum rims (and a triple crank!) that is at least pleasant to ride.
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They are like the platonic imagine of "bicycle" to me. My mom and dad had matching blue Le Tours with seats for me and my brother and then I had a varsity for my 10 Speed.
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Originally Posted by Aubergine;19914044[B
]If you really must have a Varsity, you can improve it by replacing the wheels with Aluminum ones.[/B] I have an old Schwinn Speedster with aluminum rims (and a triple crank!) that is at least pleasant to ride.
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Yes but now you are talking about additional expense. New wheels are, maybe $100 to $150? Unless you are talking about restoring a beloved heirloom or valuable collectible bicycle, it starts to make no sense economically, especially since even with alloy wheels, you still have a low end, heavy bicycle.
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You can get the Schwinn Prelude in the small size.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...336643718.html
It's more expensive than the Varsity, but it has very nice components and it is in very good condition.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/b...336643718.html
It's more expensive than the Varsity, but it has very nice components and it is in very good condition.
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I suggest asking yourself what you like about the look. My only reason is that if you expand your criteria to include more bikes, you'll get a broader selection from which to choose. I've noticed that the Schwinn name commands a premium among used bikes, and there are some other classic bikes of the same era that also look... classic. I'm fond of that look myself, and I own two old Schwinn frames, a World Tourist and a Traveler. It must have a horizontal top tube, even though that's pure vanity.
Of course if you like chrome, there's no substitute. Brillo pad will remove light surface rust, so long as there's no pitting. In my case, my bare minimum bike has aluminum wheels, but we all have our preferences. The Schwinn steel rims were easy to bend, so be sure to check the wheels for true if you're looking at bikes.
I had a Varsity as a teenager, and was perfectly happy with it. I rode it everywhere. But when I got the cheapest possible Trek in 1983, the weight difference was night and day in terms of the ride quality.
Of course if you like chrome, there's no substitute. Brillo pad will remove light surface rust, so long as there's no pitting. In my case, my bare minimum bike has aluminum wheels, but we all have our preferences. The Schwinn steel rims were easy to bend, so be sure to check the wheels for true if you're looking at bikes.
I had a Varsity as a teenager, and was perfectly happy with it. I rode it everywhere. But when I got the cheapest possible Trek in 1983, the weight difference was night and day in terms of the ride quality.
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The point is, there are relatively light weight vintage Schwinns with decent components, and there are boat anchor Schwinns that do not have decent components. Some of those early to mid 80s Schwinns even came with Columbus made Tenax tubing. Letour, Voyageur, Prelude, Tempo, Super Sport, even some later model World Sports are a few examples of vintage Schwinns that have stood the test of time and are, weight wise, lighter or comparable to a modern Trek hybrid. Moreover, these Schwinns typically used better quality Shimano and Suntour components, which are still available on the used market and compatible with modern Shimano components should you need to replace something. Not so much with your older Varsitys, which were extremely heavy with heavy steel wheels, which are both slow and dangerous in the rain.
I will look at the Letours, voyagers, and Preludes then. Sounds like the Varsity isn't the bike I want. Had no idea was such a big difference between them.
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I didn't know there was such a big difference between the old Schwinn bikes. My father had an old Schwinn road bike he rode when I was a kid I couldn't keep up with him He said he bought it for $300 in the 70's was a lot of money back then. It was either a Varsity or a Paramount. He could go very fast on it and would ride 20-40 miles a day after work. He could go 20+ miles an hour on that thing. I remember how fast it was as a kid.
I will look at the Letours, voyagers, and Preludes then. Sounds like the Varsity isn't the bike I want. Had no idea was such a big difference between them.
I will look at the Letours, voyagers, and Preludes then. Sounds like the Varsity isn't the bike I want. Had no idea was such a big difference between them.
Meanwhile, the bikes that Schwinn made for racing teams were of lugged steel. That was the Paramont. Those were made in a separate factory in Wisconsin, and were a thing to behold.
During the 70s, high quality Japanese and European bikes began to take a pretty good sized chunk out of the US market, and Schwinn didn't have the capability to mass produce lugged frames, so they switched to an outsource business model, having frames and then entire bikes made in Japan and Taiwan. Eventually the heavy welded frames were discontinued. Schwinn went through bankruptcy around this time period, and emerged as a brand of Pacific Cycle.
Welded frames have come full circle, as the welding process has been revolutionized, and high quality welded frames from both aluminum and steel are now reasonably lightweight and inexpensive.
So, that's the reason for the variety of frame styles sold by Schwinn over the years.
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I didn't know there was such a big difference between the old Schwinn bikes. My father had an old Schwinn road bike he rode when I was a kid I couldn't keep up with him He said he bought it for $300 in the 70's was a lot of money back then. It was either a Varsity or a Paramount. He could go very fast on it and would ride 20-40 miles a day after work. He could go 20+ miles an hour on that thing. I remember how fast it was as a kid.
I will look at the Letours, voyagers, and Preludes then. Sounds like the Varsity isn't the bike I want. Had no idea was such a big difference between them.
I will look at the Letours, voyagers, and Preludes then. Sounds like the Varsity isn't the bike I want. Had no idea was such a big difference between them.
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I suggest asking yourself what you like about the look. My only reason is that if you expand your criteria to include more bikes, you'll get a broader selection from which to choose. I've noticed that the Schwinn name commands a premium among used bikes, and there are some other classic bikes of the same era that also look... classic. I'm fond of that look myself, and I own two old Schwinn frames, a World Tourist and a Traveler. It must have a horizontal top tube, even though that's pure vanity.
Of course if you like chrome, there's no substitute. Brillo pad will remove light surface rust, so long as there's no pitting. In my case, my bare minimum bike has aluminum wheels, but we all have our preferences. The Schwinn steel rims were easy to bend, so be sure to check the wheels for true if you're looking at bikes.
I had a Varsity as a teenager, and was perfectly happy with it. I rode it everywhere. But when I got the cheapest possible Trek in 1983, the weight difference was night and day in terms of the ride quality.
Of course if you like chrome, there's no substitute. Brillo pad will remove light surface rust, so long as there's no pitting. In my case, my bare minimum bike has aluminum wheels, but we all have our preferences. The Schwinn steel rims were easy to bend, so be sure to check the wheels for true if you're looking at bikes.
I had a Varsity as a teenager, and was perfectly happy with it. I rode it everywhere. But when I got the cheapest possible Trek in 1983, the weight difference was night and day in terms of the ride quality.