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Old 07-15-18, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
And squishy tires don't totally negate how a bike pedals.
but even slightly squishy tires, make variance in the type of steel used in the frame a senseless discusssion.
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
I've got a 1973 Nishiki that weighed in around 35 pounds with its original components, but I definitely didn't love that. I'm rebuilding it with allow wheels and a newer drivetrain and I think it's going to come down to 26 pounds or so. It's still a bike that I'm building for scenarios where I think the bike will probably be stolen if I leave it alone.
i have a similar era Olympic that I built with aluminum wheels and parts, and it turned out to be quite nice to ride. Better than I expected, that’s for sure! Let us all know how your build comes out.


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This one weighs a ton--the frame is insanely beefy, but it rides excellent, and is such a wonderful touring bike. Pretty sure it's well over 30 lbs unloaded.
I got hit by a car on it a couple weeks ago, and although it could be repaired, I chose to find a new one instead. I picked up a random 80s Schwinn in the meantime, similar geo but straight gauge true temper (the kuwahara was triple butted i s h i t awa) and was shocked at how much lighter it was--and how much less I liked the way it rode!
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That's a pretty snazzy looking bike.

Yeah, the gravel thing kind of happened organically. Vernon was the only bike I had that already had 32c tires; So I figured why not? I think I discovered gravel is where it really shines brightest. Tons more plush & stable than my modern actual gravel/cx bike.

I did a bunch of frame modifications, so I don't know how a purist would feel on me calling it a Schwinn at this point. But no matter, it's been in service almost 45 years, heres hoping theres 45 more down the road. (Somewhere theres a thread about it in the framebuilders forum, if you're interested.)

Old bikes just ride different than their modern day counterparts. The only drawback is gear range. But in terms of ride comfort & enjoyability I think, & I'm sure you'll agree: They were definitely on to something.

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Haven't done a century on it but it's seen some gravel and last year's Clunker Challenge 100. My '74 Varsity Deluxe "Big Bird" tips the scales at 41 lbs.


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Jubile feels like she runs between 25 and 30 pounds, but the extra weight doesn't bother me a bit, for what she gets used for. I ride a daily 30-mile round trip bicycle commute. Once she gets moving, her momentum carries her along quite nicely, and the ride is ever so plush and comfy. With 1 1/4" tires on her, most bumps in the road go completely unnoticed. I'd say that Jubile is easily the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. She's no dog either. Far more nimble feeling than my more modern steel Salsa Vaya.

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Jubile feels like she runs between 25 and 30 pounds, but the extra weight doesn't bother me a bit, for what she gets used for. I ride a daily 30-mile round trip bicycle commute. Once she gets moving, her momentum carries her along quite nicely, and the ride is ever so plush and comfy. With 1 1/4" tires on her, most bumps in the road go completely unnoticed. I'd say that Jubile is easily the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden. She's no dog either. Far more nimble feeling than my more modern steel Salsa Vaya.

Beautiful bike. What's in the spokes of the front wheel?
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Just weighed my ~1965 Cinelli the other day for giggles. 26.5 lbs. Cino made all of his fairly stout, and this big one especially so (Columbus SP, not SL). That plus Campy 10sp triple makes for an over 25lb. ride, apparently. It also makes for an amazingly sweet, responsive, alive-feeling ride.

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My Bilenky is no lightweight, but it makes an outstanding tourer/all-
purpose ride.

Was a real champ on our annual trip to the cabin last week.

My wife's MAP on the other hand.......

Light, fast, comfy etc.


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Just weighed my ~1965 Cinelli the other day for giggles. 26.5 lbs. Cino made all of his fairly stout, and this big one especially so (Columbus SP, not SL). That plus Campy 10sp triple makes for an over 25lb. ride, apparently. It also makes for an amazingly sweet, responsive, alive-feeling ride.

Gorgeous. Full of charm.

You lucky guy.
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Gorgeous. Full of charm.

You lucky guy.
You're making me blush.

Oh, wait, you mean the bike . . . .
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Originally Posted by tbo
Beautiful bike. What's in the spokes of the front wheel?
My Eddy Merckx spoke card makes me like 3x as fast.


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3-speed English is the 32lb+ formula! All steel bikes



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I completed the Hillier Than Thou ride in September in the middle of the pack. I was older than the middle person, I'm sure, as I was 56 years old at the time, and I had the heaviest bike off all the participants.

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I completed the Hillier Than Thou ride in September in the middle of the pack. I was older than the middle person, I'm sure, as I was 56 years old at the time, and I had the heaviest bike off all the participants.
Thine will catch up.
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Thine will catch up.
Huh?
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@bikingshearer -- What are the bottle cages/mounts you're using? And do you love them, or are they just so-so?
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@bikingshearer -- What are the bottle cages/mounts you're using? And do you love them, or are they just so-so?
They are from Two Fish, and the attach via velcro strips. No, I do not love them. In fact, I tossed the down tube one into a field in a fit of rage when it slipped, got munched and almost caused me to crash. I have a regular clamped-on cage on the down tube now, although I still have the one on the seat tube. The seat tube with its lack of cables is easier to really cinch down the velcro, although still not as secure as I would prefer, and the positioning is far less likely to make it dangerous if it slips.


Bottom line: A better idea in concept than in practice. It turns out that it is hard to get the velcro tight enough - and nigh on to impossible on the down tube and working around the derailleur cables - to keep the cages in place on a bumpy road.
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They are from Two Fish, and the attach via velcro strips. No, I do not love them. In fact, I tossed the down tube one into a field in a fit of rage when it slipped, got munched and almost caused me to crash. I have a regular clamped-on cage on the down tube now, although I still have the one on the seat tube. The seat tube with its lack of cables is easier to really cinch down the velcro, although still not as secure as I would prefer, and the positioning is far less likely to make it dangerous if it slips.


Bottom line: A better idea in concept than in practice. It turns out that it is hard to get the velcro tight enough - and nigh on to impossible on the down tube and working around the derailleur cables - to keep the cages in place on a bumpy road.
Thanks! I looked at those, then decided on traditional clamps. Glad I did!
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We used to do English Bike Rides...2 actually. My Raleigh Superb, if I remember correctly, weighed in at 52lbs! Never ever noticed the weight while we were riding...but putting it back into the truck is where the weight showed up!
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
A 'heavy' lightweight.
But chrome headlugs.
Will be gifted this year to an old friend.
I don't weigh my bikes.


Every bike needs at least 1 outstanding feature - unfortunately, not the tubeset on this one.
edit: Durifort tubing if I remember on this one.
There was/is? an archived article evaluating the Carabela Semi-Pro....
OK - got it weighed with luggage scale at 29.5lbs, no bottle cage, flat pedals no clips/straps, alloy 27”, cheap tires.

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Bottle cages? Cup holdlers....
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Huh?
Thou & big poodle Shall be willing to succumb to an endeavor ast long as we don't break the trott..
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I ride with this standard poodle and it is the smartest dog I ever met. wow! Squirrels, rabbits , little dogs & children she can't take the rush. I have to be responsible .Leash.
This dog has control. Amazing. On the bike. She is more worried about the bike. Gives me command. Trotts with me. Alpha female...
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Not an old bike, although it does look the part!

As of now (after replacing some parts - offroading can be hard on the components, especially if you crash) it weighs 15.6kg "with the top tube bag and toolbag with pump & tools & spare tube, or just a bit north of 34 pounds. As ridden with two bidons, phone, etc, and a snack or two in the top tube bag,about 17.3kg or 38 pounds.

You feel it on the hills, but it'll get up there all right with a wide range 3x10. Pretty fast on the flats or slight gradients, though.

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Mine is well over 50 lbs right now, it started out as just 50 ib but I added a front rack, an O-lock with chain, battery rear light and wider tyres. Actually, I'm waiting for those tyres and other parts to arrive, so no pictures yet.

Originally Posted by billnuke1
We used to do English Bike Rides...2 actually. My Raleigh Superb, if I remember correctly, weighed in at 52lbs! Never ever noticed the weight while we were riding...but putting it back into the truck is where the weight showed up!
Personally I experience my current bike as rather light. I used to own a pre WWII roadster with rod brakes and a three speed, it must have been closer to 60 lb than 50 lb. Beeing build like a tank it didn't need much maintenance, but I had to carry it upstairs to the 4th floor to repair a flat. It wasn't that much trouble because of the top tube, just grab it there and put your underarm straight under, it's the step throughs no matter how light that are terrible to lift and carry.
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