Trespassing on a Public Road
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In Georgia, bicycles are typically prohibited from using controlled-access roadways such as interstate highways. That's probably a good thing.
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When I flew into Iceland, we decided to ride into Reykjavik instead of taking a bus, seeing as how the flight arrived at 330am and our hotels weren't available for twelve hours anyhow. The main (i.e., only) road from the airport to the city wasn't a true limited access "interstate", but it was a divided highway with on/off ramps. Riding the road was actually nice, there was a wide paved shoulder with a rumble strip divider, but darting across those ramps with traffic flowing around 65MPH was fairly nerve wracking.
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The other thing you can do in most situations is simply exit and re-enter using the on ramp. I did that a couple of times at the end of a tour in Andalucía. Rode the equivalent of an Interstate beltway around Sevilla. Heavy traffic. Went up the off ramps and back down the on ramps.
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In most states bicycles are not allowed on YOU MEAN INTERSTATE highways. The article states “interstate” highway, so my guess is the official charge would be trespassing (as described in the article) on county or state property. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Edit: General beat me to it.
-Kedosto
Edit: General beat me to it.
-Kedosto
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In most states bicycles are not allowed on highways. The article states “interstate” highway, so my guess is the official charge would be trespassing (as described in the article) on county or state property. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Edit: General beat me to it.
-Kedosto
Edit: General beat me to it.
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No need to guess, because MA divides the highways into two categories, and it isn't by way of whether it's interstate or not. US 3 is an interstate highway with sections that bikes can ride on, for example.
495 is a "limited access highway", which prohibits bicycles, pedestrians and horses. There are also state highways that are designated as limited access as well Route 2, for example, is a state highway with sections of limited access.
You're right, though, it's trespassing because he is prohibited from operating a bicycle on that limited access highway.
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No need to guess, because MA divides the highways into two categories, and it isn't by way of whether it's interstate or not. US 3 is an interstate highway with sections that bikes can ride on, for example.
495 is a "limited access highway", which prohibits bicycles, pedestrians and horses.
495 is a "limited access highway", which prohibits bicycles, pedestrians and horses.
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My assertion is that if the bike is on the shoulder, on the edge near the grass
AND has SMV triangle , reflective vest and strobe lights AND keeps his head on a pivot, he's taking a calculated risk , like 1:10,000 chance of getting hit.
AND has SMV triangle , reflective vest and strobe lights AND keeps his head on a pivot, he's taking a calculated risk , like 1:10,000 chance of getting hit.
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That's the main gist of the OP.
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If you're on a restricted access highway with heavy traffic and crossing straight across an exit ramp with cars and semis exiting in excess of 50 mph, your odds are a lot worse than that. It's illegal for very good reasons. He was nuts to be riding on 495. No one does that.
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US 3 is a highway that goes between multiple states, but it's not part of the Interstate Highway System established in 1956 and designated by I-Numbers, incl. I-495. The Interstate Highway System was designed for limited access and many (but not all) prohibit bicycles. The earlier US Highway System, of which US 3 is one example, are usually not limited access although some of them have sections that are.
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Western state interstate highways
Hello, all
I've ridden the shoulder on rural interstate highways in Utah, Colorado, Montana and Idaho while on tour. In almost all cases I felt very safe on the interstate and it was legal, since no alternative route existed. The only drawbacks were the excessive noise, which I countered with ear plugs, and the lack of shoulder on some bridges over the rivers in Montana between Missoula and Spokane. I wouldn't try it in the Midwest or the eastern states, but I found it to be a good choice out west.
I've ridden the shoulder on rural interstate highways in Utah, Colorado, Montana and Idaho while on tour. In almost all cases I felt very safe on the interstate and it was legal, since no alternative route existed. The only drawbacks were the excessive noise, which I countered with ear plugs, and the lack of shoulder on some bridges over the rivers in Montana between Missoula and Spokane. I wouldn't try it in the Midwest or the eastern states, but I found it to be a good choice out west.
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Hello, all
I've ridden the shoulder on rural interstate highways in Utah, Colorado, Montana and Idaho while on tour. In almost all cases I felt very safe on the interstate and it was legal, since no alternative route existed. The only drawbacks were the excessive noise, which I countered with ear plugs, and the lack of shoulder on some bridges over the rivers in Montana between Missoula and Spokane. I wouldn't try it in the Midwest or the eastern states, but I found it to be a good choice out west.
I've ridden the shoulder on rural interstate highways in Utah, Colorado, Montana and Idaho while on tour. In almost all cases I felt very safe on the interstate and it was legal, since no alternative route existed. The only drawbacks were the excessive noise, which I countered with ear plugs, and the lack of shoulder on some bridges over the rivers in Montana between Missoula and Spokane. I wouldn't try it in the Midwest or the eastern states, but I found it to be a good choice out west.
What did you do on the bridges? Obviously, taking the lane isn't an option.
This fascinates me because I don't think I've ever lived anywhere where this is legal.
As you note, trying this in the Boswash megalopolis is definitely a different matter.
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Here is how they do it in Russia: https://twitter.com/i/moments/1062349784344915968
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Here's a google street view of the start of a bridge (this shows the two eastbound lanes):
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.4720...=en&authuser=0
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A few years ago there was an Australian on ACA's forum arguing that all interstates in the U.S. should be open to bikes. This came on the heels of a fellow countrywoman getting killed by a drunk while riding on a rural Indiana rode in the middle of the night. His premise was that she would still be alive because she would have ridden the interstate if that had been an option. Putting aside the fact that he could not have known that, I suggested that he look at something like the New Jersey Turnpike, Goethels Bridge or BQE (Brooklyn-Queens Expressway) (all part of the interstate highway system) on Google Street View and maybe reconsider his position.
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But then again, we have people who do things like this in Boston:
https://www.universalhub.com/2018/su...akim-rush-hour
https://www.universalhub.com/2015/bi...edom-open-road
https://www.universalhub.com/2015/bi...-tunnel-vision (in the freaking TUNNEL on I93!)
https://www.universalhub.com/2016/hu...-pedaling-down
https://www.universalhub.com/2018/we...torrow-herself
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Yep. Deerfield Academy, class of '83. Did D2R2 twice this decade. Back in June I did a tour from St. Albans, VT home to Philly, with a stop in Deerfield for my 35th high school reunion. Continued south through Westhampton and spent a night (in a restored, 1919 caboose) in Chester. Then to E. Otis, Otis, Monterey and Hartsville, eventually crossing into NW CT to N. Canaan. Lots of empty roads, including one dirt stretch.
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-OP is outraged that a cyclist gets arrested for riding on a 'public road'
-Turns out that 'public road' is an Interstate Highway in the greater Boston area
-Other posters add that it's legal to ride on the Interstate (out west in ID, SD, MT...) when there's no other route.
-I post that MA isn't as remote as ID, SD, or MT, so bikes typically aren't allowed on the Interstate.
-Multiple people point out that MA, is rural, too, and post pictures of dirt roads that aren't Interstates.
I should have been more clear on my point that you can ride in an urban / suburban or even semi-rural environment like we have Back East, without having to ride on an Interstate Highway, where it's usually posted that bicycles aren't permitted.
I've done multiple centuries in the DC Metro area including multiple crossings of the Potomac River, without having to use the travel lane of an Interstate Highway. I did use some short pieces of MD 4, US 15, and the MUP on the south span of the Wilson Bridge (I-495)
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Signs along the interstate in Maine say no pedestrians, bicycles, farm vehicles, no animals ridden, driven or led. Our interstate system, at least in western Maine, are essentially parallel to old federal or state routes, so it is no issue.
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OK, time for the context post:
-OP is outraged that a cyclist gets arrested for riding on a 'public road'
-Turns out that 'public road' is an Interstate Highway in the greater Boston area
-Other posters add that it's legal to ride on the Interstate (out west in ID, SD, MT...) when there's no other route.
-I post that MA isn't as remote as ID, SD, or MT, so bikes typically aren't allowed on the Interstate.
-Multiple people point out that MA, is rural, too, and post pictures of dirt roads that aren't Interstates.
I should have been more clear on my point that you can ride in an urban / suburban or even semi-rural environment like we have Back East, without having to ride on an Interstate Highway, where it's usually posted that bicycles aren't permitted.
I've done multiple centuries in the DC Metro area including multiple crossings of the Potomac River, without having to use the travel lane of an Interstate Highway. I did use some short pieces of MD 4, US 15, and the MUP on the south span of the Wilson Bridge (I-495)
-OP is outraged that a cyclist gets arrested for riding on a 'public road'
-Turns out that 'public road' is an Interstate Highway in the greater Boston area
-Other posters add that it's legal to ride on the Interstate (out west in ID, SD, MT...) when there's no other route.
-I post that MA isn't as remote as ID, SD, or MT, so bikes typically aren't allowed on the Interstate.
-Multiple people point out that MA, is rural, too, and post pictures of dirt roads that aren't Interstates.
I should have been more clear on my point that you can ride in an urban / suburban or even semi-rural environment like we have Back East, without having to ride on an Interstate Highway, where it's usually posted that bicycles aren't permitted.
I've done multiple centuries in the DC Metro area including multiple crossings of the Potomac River, without having to use the travel lane of an Interstate Highway. I did use some short pieces of MD 4, US 15, and the MUP on the south span of the Wilson Bridge (I-495)
I know the stretch of 495 in the OP well--I don't even like driving those exits and entrances, they're very curvy with absolutely no shoulder. Anyone biking there has a death wish. And yes, there are plenty of alternatives. This is basically suburban/old mill town areas. Lots of old state roads. This stretch is by no means rural.
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I know the stretch of 495 in the OP well--I don't even like driving those exits and entrances, they're very curvy with absolutely no shoulder. Anyone biking there has a death wish. And yes, there are plenty of alternatives. This is basically suburban/old mill town areas. Lots of old state roads. This stretch is by no means rural.
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Here's an entrance ramp not too far from the arrest. Going around that bend? Flare's not going to be a big help.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8041...7i13312!8i6656
Follow the ramp onto the highway and see what you're going to be jumping on. I don't recommend taking the lane--the cars are doing at least 60.
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