Help me update this 1999 Cannondale R300 Caad2
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Help me update this 1999 Cannondale R300 Caad2
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Picked this up pretty cheap from a local on FB Marketplace. Seems to be in pretty good shape, and I already have some ideas but I need some help with some specifics...
I've already got it pretty much completely stripped down. Let me explain my plan a little, then list a few questions google couldn't quite help me with..
I want to replace that god awful stem with a threaded-to-threadless adapter so I can put a threadless stem (not picked out yet) with a standard 31.8 clamp on - to go with some riser bars (probably these: https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...iser-handlebar).
Apparently the fork is chromoly, even though the frame is aluminum - but either way I'm thinking of replacing it with a carbon fork - suggestions welcome.
I'd like to make it a 1x8 - keep the rear freewheel and derailleur but kibosh that triple crank and replace it with a nice single crank - suggestions welcome.
QUESTIONS:
-I wasn't able to find a lot of info on the original BB, a Shimano LB-27. Is this some sort of standard size? Can I just swap the triple with a single & some spacers without changing the BB?
-Can I even make this a 1x8? Do you think the chain line will work OK?
-Will the original RSX rear derailleur work ok with a 1x8?
-Taking suggestions for a shifter for the rear derailleur to go on riser bars
-The downtube has the big ol' cable guides - I'll use the one on the right for the rear derailleur like it is - but what can I do with the other one? Is it gonna look stupid if I take off as much as I can and just leave the back plating (if I can?)
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Picked this up pretty cheap from a local on FB Marketplace. Seems to be in pretty good shape, and I already have some ideas but I need some help with some specifics...
I've already got it pretty much completely stripped down. Let me explain my plan a little, then list a few questions google couldn't quite help me with..
I want to replace that god awful stem with a threaded-to-threadless adapter so I can put a threadless stem (not picked out yet) with a standard 31.8 clamp on - to go with some riser bars (probably these: https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...iser-handlebar).
Apparently the fork is chromoly, even though the frame is aluminum - but either way I'm thinking of replacing it with a carbon fork - suggestions welcome.
I'd like to make it a 1x8 - keep the rear freewheel and derailleur but kibosh that triple crank and replace it with a nice single crank - suggestions welcome.
QUESTIONS:
-I wasn't able to find a lot of info on the original BB, a Shimano LB-27. Is this some sort of standard size? Can I just swap the triple with a single & some spacers without changing the BB?
-Can I even make this a 1x8? Do you think the chain line will work OK?
-Will the original RSX rear derailleur work ok with a 1x8?
-Taking suggestions for a shifter for the rear derailleur to go on riser bars
-The downtube has the big ol' cable guides - I'll use the one on the right for the rear derailleur like it is - but what can I do with the other one? Is it gonna look stupid if I take off as much as I can and just leave the back plating (if I can?)
additional pics of things:
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--if this isn't vintage enough, please feel free to relocate this thread to the appropriate forum--
Picked this up pretty cheap from a local on FB Marketplace. Seems to be in pretty good shape, and I already have some ideas but I need some help with some specifics...
I've already got it pretty much completely stripped down. Let me explain my plan a little, then list a few questions google couldn't quite help me with..
I want to replace that god awful stem with a threaded-to-threadless adapter so I can put a threadless stem (not picked out yet) with a standard 31.8 clamp on - to go with some riser bars (probably these: https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...iser-handlebar).
Apparently the fork is chromoly, even though the frame is aluminum - but either way I'm thinking of replacing it with a carbon fork - suggestions welcome.
Picked this up pretty cheap from a local on FB Marketplace. Seems to be in pretty good shape, and I already have some ideas but I need some help with some specifics...
I've already got it pretty much completely stripped down. Let me explain my plan a little, then list a few questions google couldn't quite help me with..
I want to replace that god awful stem with a threaded-to-threadless adapter so I can put a threadless stem (not picked out yet) with a standard 31.8 clamp on - to go with some riser bars (probably these: https://www.retro-gression.com/colle...iser-handlebar).
Apparently the fork is chromoly, even though the frame is aluminum - but either way I'm thinking of replacing it with a carbon fork - suggestions welcome.
-I wasn't able to find a lot of info on the original BB, a Shimano LB-27. Is this some sort of standard size?
Can I just swap the triple with a single & some spacers without changing the BB?
Assuming that your bike has a square taper BB, this shouldn't be much of an issue. UN55 bottom brackets come in a variety of spindle lengths and are cheap and good. If you get a new crank and it needs a different spindle length than the old one, you can just swap bottom brackets.
-Can I even make this a 1x8? Do you think the chain line will work OK?
-Will the original RSX rear derailleur work ok with a 1x8?
-The downtube has the big ol' cable guides - I'll use the one on the right for the rear derailleur like it is - but what can I do with the other one? Is it gonna look stupid if I take off as much as I can and just leave the back plating (if I can?)
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I think I'm the only one on the face of the planet that actually likes those stems.
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They do make quill stems that rise, Nitto dirt drip and the like which might be cheaper than a adapter and new bars, just sayin. Also you might try just riding in the middle ring for a while and see how you like it before making wholesale changes, it may prove informative for what you like and don't like about a 1x8 set up.
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flat/riser bar road ripper. fun rides, commuter (backpack), etc.
The 1999 Cannondale catalogue https://vintagecannondale.com/year/1999/1999V2.pdf
Good to know, thanks. I haven't decided on a new crank yet so cross that bridge when get there
It did not.
Good to know.
Sweet, thanks.
The 1999 Cannondale catalogue https://vintagecannondale.com/year/1999/1999V2.pdf
This will depend on the cranks. Different cranks position both the rings and crank arms in different places relative to the BB spindle.
Assuming that your bike has a square taper BB, this shouldn't be much of an issue. UN55 bottom brackets come in a variety of spindle lengths and are cheap and good. If you get a new crank and it needs a different spindle length than the old one, you can just swap bottom brackets.
Assuming that your bike has a square taper BB, this shouldn't be much of an issue. UN55 bottom brackets come in a variety of spindle lengths and are cheap and good. If you get a new crank and it needs a different spindle length than the old one, you can just swap bottom brackets.
Sweet, thanks.
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the 1999 cannondale catalogue https://vintagecannondale.com/year/1999/1999v2.pdf
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@the_sci_guy, if you decide to put that RSX group up for sale at some point, please shoot me a PM. that is hard to find, and it is good working kit. Want to find a group to do a build my wife requested, with a Bottecchia CroMor frames.
BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
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BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
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@the_sci_guy, if you decide to put that RSX group up for sale at some point, please shoot me a PM. that is hard to find, and it is good working kit. Want to find a group to do a build my wife requested, with a Bottecchia CroMor frames.
BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
Bill
BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
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Did your bike have a chro-mo fork or a carbon? I've not dabbled in individual carbon forks before and while I may not do it on the first go round - i'm contemplating it for the future.
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My R500T had the steel fork, as did my SR300, no complaints about it either time. Current CAAD 10 had the CF SAVE technology fork, smooth riding bicycle with the hydroformed tubing and SAVE front and rear design.
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@the_sci_guy, if you decide to put that RSX group up for sale at some point, please shoot me a PM. that is hard to find, and it is good working kit. Want to find a group to do a build my wife requested, with a Bottecchia CroMor frames.
BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
Bill
BTW, nice R300, those ride nicely, I had that generation in a '97 R500T.
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With a bit of input here, and in a few other threads, and a bunch of research online, I finished this rebuild about 2 weeks ago! I'm quite happy with how it came out. It's not perfect, and I still plan on changing a few things but it's functionally complete. I did everything myself this time - it spent no time in a shop. I still plan on replacing the original seatpost, and will probably replace the pedals/cages with some platforms & straps. I'm not 100% loving the 48t chainring, so if I end up switching to a narrow-wide, I will look for a 42t probably (though I haven't hard any chain-drop issues yet shifting through the cassette while in motion).
Specs so far:
-Bars: Nitto For Shred; 65cm
-Stem: Ritchey C220 (31.8 clamp)
-Quill: Profile Design 1”-1 1/8” threaded stem adapter
-Headset: FSA Duron X1 1” threaded
-Brake levers: Shimano BL-R550 silver
-Brake calipers: Shimano RSX (original)
-Shifter: Shimano Altus SL-M310 8 speed trigger
-Grips: Race Face Half-Nelson
-Crank: Sugino RD2 48t, 165mm
-Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 square taper, 110mm spindle
-Derailleur: Shimano RSX 8SIS, rear (original)
-Cassette: Shimano RSX 8 spd 12-25 (original)
-Pedals: Origin8 Track, w/ MKS toe cages
-Seatpost: Standard 27.2 aluminum (original)
-Saddle: Specialized Avatar
-Wheels: Mavic CXP 11 (original)
-Hubs: Shimano RSX (original)
-Tires: Kenda Quick-Trax 700x28
-Other: Problem Solvers downtube shifter boss covers
If you're interested in seeing all the before/during/after pics of the entire process, flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rattle...57710249815572
Pics of the bike when I got it are at the top of this thread.
Here's what it currently looks like:
Specs so far:
-Bars: Nitto For Shred; 65cm
-Stem: Ritchey C220 (31.8 clamp)
-Quill: Profile Design 1”-1 1/8” threaded stem adapter
-Headset: FSA Duron X1 1” threaded
-Brake levers: Shimano BL-R550 silver
-Brake calipers: Shimano RSX (original)
-Shifter: Shimano Altus SL-M310 8 speed trigger
-Grips: Race Face Half-Nelson
-Crank: Sugino RD2 48t, 165mm
-Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 square taper, 110mm spindle
-Derailleur: Shimano RSX 8SIS, rear (original)
-Cassette: Shimano RSX 8 spd 12-25 (original)
-Pedals: Origin8 Track, w/ MKS toe cages
-Seatpost: Standard 27.2 aluminum (original)
-Saddle: Specialized Avatar
-Wheels: Mavic CXP 11 (original)
-Hubs: Shimano RSX (original)
-Tires: Kenda Quick-Trax 700x28
-Other: Problem Solvers downtube shifter boss covers
If you're interested in seeing all the before/during/after pics of the entire process, flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rattle...57710249815572
Pics of the bike when I got it are at the top of this thread.
Here's what it currently looks like:
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looks good OP how does it ride and fit post changes?
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rides nice. Some bad toe overlap though which I’m not used to. Already almost spilled two or three times because of it lol
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Amen, Brother! I have already scrubbed my front toe twice since buying mine today. Definitely going to have to be careful. I've never owned a bike that does this before.
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I truly liked the RSX group that was stock on my R500T, after swapping everything out for 105 and gifting the bike to our daughter, I let the crank, RD and brifters go to a needy member doing an adaptive set up for a fused ankle. These can get spendy on eBay, for some reason, so I didn't try to find a replacement. Now my wife wants a similar set up to the R500T on the Botty steel frame set I have on my work bench. Guess I'll just have to pony up the coins.
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It was back in 2011 when I paid it forward to the gentleman, you might check in the Adaptive Cycling forum for ideas on an adaptation for that ankle. I have the need for another RSX triple crankset, brifter and FD, want to hang them on my wives next bike that I am building up. A Bottecchia Cromor frame In her size that a regular here in the C&V gifted me a while back, she likes triples for her rides. What mama want, mama gets!
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With a bit of input here, and in a few other threads, and a bunch of research online, I finished this rebuild about 2 weeks ago! I'm quite happy with how it came out. It's not perfect, and I still plan on changing a few things but it's functionally complete. I did everything myself this time - it spent no time in a shop. I still plan on replacing the original seatpost, and will probably replace the pedals/cages with some platforms & straps. I'm not 100% loving the 48t chainring, so if I end up switching to a narrow-wide, I will look for a 42t probably (though I haven't hard any chain-drop issues yet shifting through the cassette while in motion).
Specs so far:
-Bars: Nitto For Shred; 65cm
-Stem: Ritchey C220 (31.8 clamp)
-Quill: Profile Design 1”-1 1/8” threaded stem adapter
-Headset: FSA Duron X1 1” threaded
-Brake levers: Shimano BL-R550 silver
-Brake calipers: Shimano RSX (original)
-Shifter: Shimano Altus SL-M310 8 speed trigger
-Grips: Race Face Half-Nelson
-Crank: Sugino RD2 48t, 165mm
-Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 square taper, 110mm spindle
-Derailleur: Shimano RSX 8SIS, rear (original)
-Cassette: Shimano RSX 8 spd 12-25 (original)
-Pedals: Origin8 Track, w/ MKS toe cages
-Seatpost: Standard 27.2 aluminum (original)
-Saddle: Specialized Avatar
-Wheels: Mavic CXP 11 (original)
-Hubs: Shimano RSX (original)
-Tires: Kenda Quick-Trax 700x28
-Other: Problem Solvers downtube shifter boss covers
If you're interested in seeing all the before/during/after pics of the entire process, flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rattle...57710249815572
Pics of the bike when I got it are at the top of this thread.
Here's what it currently looks like:
Specs so far:
-Bars: Nitto For Shred; 65cm
-Stem: Ritchey C220 (31.8 clamp)
-Quill: Profile Design 1”-1 1/8” threaded stem adapter
-Headset: FSA Duron X1 1” threaded
-Brake levers: Shimano BL-R550 silver
-Brake calipers: Shimano RSX (original)
-Shifter: Shimano Altus SL-M310 8 speed trigger
-Grips: Race Face Half-Nelson
-Crank: Sugino RD2 48t, 165mm
-Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN55 square taper, 110mm spindle
-Derailleur: Shimano RSX 8SIS, rear (original)
-Cassette: Shimano RSX 8 spd 12-25 (original)
-Pedals: Origin8 Track, w/ MKS toe cages
-Seatpost: Standard 27.2 aluminum (original)
-Saddle: Specialized Avatar
-Wheels: Mavic CXP 11 (original)
-Hubs: Shimano RSX (original)
-Tires: Kenda Quick-Trax 700x28
-Other: Problem Solvers downtube shifter boss covers
If you're interested in seeing all the before/during/after pics of the entire process, flickr album here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rattle...57710249815572
Pics of the bike when I got it are at the top of this thread.
Here's what it currently looks like:
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Made some changes to this bike to make it more sale-friendly for bike normies - and took off the $$ parts and put on some cheaper stuff so I could sell it at a reasonable price.
Put on an Origin8 crank & stem, put the original C'dale Coda bars back on, and added microshift R8 1x8 brake/shift levers, and recabled the whole thing.
Put on an Origin8 crank & stem, put the original C'dale Coda bars back on, and added microshift R8 1x8 brake/shift levers, and recabled the whole thing.
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