Terrific 18-speed Brompton Mod.
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Thank you BromptonINrio,
I'm going to check this upgrade from the German guy. It's always good to take a look.
But my main goal was to lightweight my old bike and I saw that the nexus is about 1,55kg. That's wonderful in terms of use but not for the weight!
Is there anything lighter for about 3 to 8 speeds than a internal gear hub?
Something else: I look at my rear triangle and I saw there's something missing under. The little welded part in order to be able to use the chain pusher thing. My bike is too old. Do you know if I could weld this little screw part myself? I just don't know exactly where precisely it is located on the tube.
I was wondering if a traditional two speeds wheel without internal gear, plus a front derailleur (it would be 4 speeds, no?) would be lighter than its equivalent with internal hub?
....
I'm going to check this upgrade from the German guy. It's always good to take a look.
But my main goal was to lightweight my old bike and I saw that the nexus is about 1,55kg. That's wonderful in terms of use but not for the weight!
Is there anything lighter for about 3 to 8 speeds than a internal gear hub?
Something else: I look at my rear triangle and I saw there's something missing under. The little welded part in order to be able to use the chain pusher thing. My bike is too old. Do you know if I could weld this little screw part myself? I just don't know exactly where precisely it is located on the tube.
I was wondering if a traditional two speeds wheel without internal gear, plus a front derailleur (it would be 4 speeds, no?) would be lighter than its equivalent with internal hub?
....
the way to lightwheight a brompton is at hand, the singlespeed one plus all carbon/titanium at a cost of few thousand dollars.
the lighest i see was 7.4kg
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So, in terms of efficiency/usability/price/weight, everybody think an internal gear hub is the best option, right?
I'v dowloaded for 1 pound the "A to B" magazine where there's an article from Derek Cranage and his lightweight brompton 7,3kg, it's really interesting. He bought a lot of his accessories from china at Aliexpress and he gives references. I might follow some of his advices.
Chagzuki, would you have a link about the 4 speeds mod?
And if I would decide to do a single speed. Would you have any advice about the number of teeth for the front and the crankset chainrig? I mean the good ratio? 50t and 12 or 13 teeth in the rear?
I've got an idea...Let me know what you think...
What about a single sprocket and a crankset with two chainrings, that would be 2 speeds, it would allow a very lightweight rear wheel and the possibitly to ride in a hill with the small chainring?
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
I'v dowloaded for 1 pound the "A to B" magazine where there's an article from Derek Cranage and his lightweight brompton 7,3kg, it's really interesting. He bought a lot of his accessories from china at Aliexpress and he gives references. I might follow some of his advices.
Chagzuki, would you have a link about the 4 speeds mod?
And if I would decide to do a single speed. Would you have any advice about the number of teeth for the front and the crankset chainrig? I mean the good ratio? 50t and 12 or 13 teeth in the rear?
I've got an idea...Let me know what you think...
What about a single sprocket and a crankset with two chainrings, that would be 2 speeds, it would allow a very lightweight rear wheel and the possibitly to ride in a hill with the small chainring?
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
Last edited by nachy; 09-07-18 at 03:28 AM.
#53
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So, in terms of efficiency/usability/price/weight, everybody think an internal gear hub is the best option, right?
I'v dowloaded for 1 pound the "A to B" magazine where there's an article from Derek Cranage and his lightweight brompton 7,3kg, it's really interesting. He bought a lot of his accessories from china at Aliexpress and he gives references. I might follow some of his advices.
Chagzuki, would you have a link about the 4 speeds mod?
And if I would decide to do a single speed. Would you have any advice about the number of teeth for the front and the crankset chainrig? I mean the good ratio? 50t and 12 or 13 teeth in the rear?
I've got an idea...Let me know what you think...
What about a single sprocket and a crankset with two chainrings, that would be 2 speeds, it would allow a very lightweight rear wheel and the possibitly to ride in a hill with the small chainring?
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
I'v dowloaded for 1 pound the "A to B" magazine where there's an article from Derek Cranage and his lightweight brompton 7,3kg, it's really interesting. He bought a lot of his accessories from china at Aliexpress and he gives references. I might follow some of his advices.
Chagzuki, would you have a link about the 4 speeds mod?
And if I would decide to do a single speed. Would you have any advice about the number of teeth for the front and the crankset chainrig? I mean the good ratio? 50t and 12 or 13 teeth in the rear?
I've got an idea...Let me know what you think...
What about a single sprocket and a crankset with two chainrings, that would be 2 speeds, it would allow a very lightweight rear wheel and the possibitly to ride in a hill with the small chainring?
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
About two chainrings on front, many people do put then and manual shift though cranks.
To add an front derrailer isnt hard but the hard in the matter is that the front derrailer will be push very hard by chain while fold and this lever moviment does have habiliti to break your derrailer cage.
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if you choose singlespeed path simply dont worry about ratio because correct gear ration in singlespeed is an non exist thing.You will always be in wrong gear.
About two chainrings on front, many people do put then and manual shift though cranks.
To add an front derrailer isnt hard but the hard in the matter is that the front derrailer will be push very hard by chain while fold and this lever moviment does have habiliti to break your derrailer cage.
About two chainrings on front, many people do put then and manual shift though cranks.
To add an front derrailer isnt hard but the hard in the matter is that the front derrailer will be push very hard by chain while fold and this lever moviment does have habiliti to break your derrailer cage.
But I guess it is possible to find an average set up.
We should look for someone who has already make a modification on his bike. He could say: it doesn't work or try this, I failed on that, blablabla
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That's wonderful chagzuki!
but it seems it's not released yet, and it's probably going to be very expensive.
The good thing with Derek Cranage, he tells where he found all its gears and actually it is common gears that you can find almost everywhere.
I dream about something like that for the brompton, a modification but very simple, easy, and with materials or gears we can find easily.
Today, I ended up to do the sturmey archer internal three gears hub maintenance, I was a bit afraid, but everything was fine. And now it works perfectly, but it's still too muuuuuuuuuuuuch heavvvvvvvvyyyyyy!
but it seems it's not released yet, and it's probably going to be very expensive.
The good thing with Derek Cranage, he tells where he found all its gears and actually it is common gears that you can find almost everywhere.
I dream about something like that for the brompton, a modification but very simple, easy, and with materials or gears we can find easily.
Today, I ended up to do the sturmey archer internal three gears hub maintenance, I was a bit afraid, but everything was fine. And now it works perfectly, but it's still too muuuuuuuuuuuuch heavvvvvvvvyyyyyy!
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What about a single sprocket and a crankset with two chainrings, that would be 2 speeds, it would allow a very lightweight rear wheel and the possibitly to ride in a hill with the small chainring?
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
I think a front derailleur is easy to install and lightweight. No complicated modification.
What is more common is to add an additional chainwheel to the 2-speed to achieve a "granny gear" for those moments when you need it on the hills. As in this setup the smaller chainwheel is only used very occasionally many people to not use a front derailleur an downshift by foot and upshift by hand.
So depending on what you want to achieve it may be possible but more complicated, more expensive and heavier than the factory 2-speed and at the same time less convenient.
#59
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I Have one of those FD adapter mounts , I got from CM Wasson,
the original US Brompton Dealer, now retired. I'm not going to use
Will sell ... send a PM.. (US sales )..
the original US Brompton Dealer, now retired. I'm not going to use
Will sell ... send a PM.. (US sales )..
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