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Same Guy, Same Story
So a few months ago, I was riding home from school, doing about 25mph down a hill. I saw a car behind me, and so I pulled over close to the side of the road to give him room to pass. As he passed me, he slowed down and yelled "Get off the f#%^ing road you f#@$ing kid" and flipped me off. He was an overweight guy wearing a wifebeater in a white old beatup ford econoline van.
Yesterday I was riding down a different hill, and had to turn left onto another street. I slow down, and stop to wait for the traffic in the other lane to slow just like any car would do. I hear someone leaning on his horn behind me and I turn around. It was the same guy in the same car wearing the same outfit.
I couldn't make my turn yet, as there were still cars in the other lane, and so i tried ignoring him. He gunned his engine which scared me to death because i thought he would run into me (apperently he had gunned it with the brakes on). I nearly went into the oncoming traffic. Luckily I got a brake in traffic and I made my turn and he drove on.
I hope i don't meet him a third time...
Yesterday I was riding down a different hill, and had to turn left onto another street. I slow down, and stop to wait for the traffic in the other lane to slow just like any car would do. I hear someone leaning on his horn behind me and I turn around. It was the same guy in the same car wearing the same outfit.
I couldn't make my turn yet, as there were still cars in the other lane, and so i tried ignoring him. He gunned his engine which scared me to death because i thought he would run into me (apperently he had gunned it with the brakes on). I nearly went into the oncoming traffic. Luckily I got a brake in traffic and I made my turn and he drove on.
I hope i don't meet him a third time...
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You can try changing your route, or maybe adjusting your schedule +-10mins to avoid him it its always the same place and time.
Thats probably the sanest and simplest thing to do.
However a part of me wants to say, next time he passes you while you're waiting for that left turn(he can pass to your right can't he?) smash your Ulock into his rear window then dash across the cross traffic where he can't follow. (and then change your route as suggested originally).
Someone else might also suggest recording the repeat incidents or getting police involved, but do you really want to go to that trouble? Option 1 is still looking the best here...
Thats probably the sanest and simplest thing to do.
However a part of me wants to say, next time he passes you while you're waiting for that left turn(he can pass to your right can't he?) smash your Ulock into his rear window then dash across the cross traffic where he can't follow. (and then change your route as suggested originally).
Someone else might also suggest recording the repeat incidents or getting police involved, but do you really want to go to that trouble? Option 1 is still looking the best here...
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Post his plates on craigslist. I had a same driver harrass me twice on my morning commute-- in different vehicles (6:30 am- zero traffic). Someone from the DMV emailed me all sorts of info on the driver, including his criminal record.
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Probably a local, so not likely to avoid him changing routes.
You are going to have to confront this ahole and make him understand that you too have the same rights to the road.
If that doesn't work, remove all of his tire valve cores.
You are going to have to confront this ahole and make him understand that you too have the same rights to the road.
If that doesn't work, remove all of his tire valve cores.
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Get the guy's license number and vehicle description, and report it to the local police, each and every time he pulls some silly stunt like that. They're the folks with powers to either curtail his driving privileges or impose some other penalty that might lead him to changing his ways. Repeated reports establish a pattern of unlawful behavior, which makes it harder for him to claim that "it's just an isolated incident" or more commonly, "I'm sorry, Officer... I just didn't see him."
Unless you're really confident you can take this guy in an (un)fair fight (there should be no other kind) and have a really, really close friend to help you hide the corpse, confrontation as suggested above isn't a good option.
Unless you're really confident you can take this guy in an (un)fair fight (there should be no other kind) and have a really, really close friend to help you hide the corpse, confrontation as suggested above isn't a good option.
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Call the cops. And, as you've seen, cowering in the gutters for these people doesn't help you make them happy. Ride where it will make you safe.
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Report him to the police with license plates for sure. It's just another form of harassment. It's worth reporting to protect yourself and other cyclists.
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+1 report to police. If it happened to me more than once, I'd be riding with a video camera. If he ever hits a cyclist, justice will be a lot more likely if there are multiple reports of him harassing and threatening cyclists on file.
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Can you elaborate on how this works? Where did you post it in craigslist and how did the DMV see it?
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I don't know about calling the cops. It's not clear that the guy did anything illegal or dangerous. He's definitely a rude jerk and a bully, however.
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+100 on recording the plate number, type of vehicle, drivers description, and time of day-for each incident.
If for no other reason but to establish a pattern of hostility on his part. You may want to notify the police as well. If the problem ever escalated you would have the grounds for a restraining order against him at the very least.
Of course, I'm an idealist and would like to believe restraining orders worked. I know they don't, they're fundamentally flawed. I know a woman whose ex-boyfriend beat the snot out of her while he was under a restraining order.
He fled before the cops could catch him and has had an outstanding warrant for his arrest ever since. That was fifteen years ago, they still haven't caught him.
If for no other reason but to establish a pattern of hostility on his part. You may want to notify the police as well. If the problem ever escalated you would have the grounds for a restraining order against him at the very least.
Of course, I'm an idealist and would like to believe restraining orders worked. I know they don't, they're fundamentally flawed. I know a woman whose ex-boyfriend beat the snot out of her while he was under a restraining order.
He fled before the cops could catch him and has had an outstanding warrant for his arrest ever since. That was fifteen years ago, they still haven't caught him.
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You can call the cops and make some sort of report. Depending on the police in your area and you have his plates, they may even go out and have a talk with this guy. Of course, who knows if this guy is crazy, it may simply escalate the situation.
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I was trying to think of the term, I knew battery was wrong. My mother had a similiar incident when she was younger with a car that did the same thing to her, revving the engine, repeatedly acting like they were going to run her off the road, etc...that's what they charged the driver with. You can't threaten someone with a car, it's still considered a weapon.
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Has anyone ever tried reporting a non-serious incident like this? I wouldn't call 911 to report it, as it clearly isn't an emergency.
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I had one of these years ago, when I worked in Watertown (MA) This guy would pass me much closer than necessary, usually on Main street. A few times, he did this on Arsenal street. He was huge, massive, filling up the driver's seat very nicely. His car was a very beat up looking Olds, of late 70's vintage I think, complete with a coat hanger radio antenna. This guy would do the usual stuff: Lay on the horn, or snarl at me to "get off the F___kin road!"
I took no action at all, but luck was on my side one morning. The Watertown PD had the nitwit pulled over on Arsenal street, and the officers (there were two of them) did not look happy. I have no idea what happened, but I never saw him after that. Yee hah!
The advice here is good. Get yourself a cell phone. This jack***** cannot go around, using his van to threaten people.
I took no action at all, but luck was on my side one morning. The Watertown PD had the nitwit pulled over on Arsenal street, and the officers (there were two of them) did not look happy. I have no idea what happened, but I never saw him after that. Yee hah!
The advice here is good. Get yourself a cell phone. This jack***** cannot go around, using his van to threaten people.
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I think others have suggested it, but, I'll still do so: Note his license-plate number and descriptions of him and his vehicle. Go down to your local police station with the information, and file a complaint ("harassment," or whatever [the guy did almost scare you into the street] — if you explain the situation, the officers ought to be able to help you fill out the correct forms). Changing your route sounds like a good "practical" suggestion, but, as some have mentioned, if you've encountered the driver twice, it's probable he's a local and that you'll run into him again — even if you don't, other bicyclists almost certainly will, and a person like this shouldn't be allowed to run around doing this.
Good luck.
Good luck.
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Get the guy's license number and vehicle description, and report it to the local police, each and every time he pulls some silly stunt like that. They're the folks with powers to either curtail his driving privileges or impose some other penalty that might lead him to changing his ways. Repeated reports establish a pattern of unlawful behavior, which makes it harder for him to claim that "it's just an isolated incident" or more commonly, "I'm sorry, Officer... I just didn't see him."
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Stop, swing a leg off the bike, and invite him out.
While he's struggling to get the beer gut past the wheel, you can..., well, all kinds of painful things.
Seriously, though, file reports; get info; use the camera phone. Be ready in case you HAVE TO DO what I was saying above....
While he's struggling to get the beer gut past the wheel, you can..., well, all kinds of painful things.
Seriously, though, file reports; get info; use the camera phone. Be ready in case you HAVE TO DO what I was saying above....
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If It happens again i'll definently report it. I should have thought of the liscense plates but i didn't at the time.
The problem is, is that the street that the problem has happened is one i absolutely have to go down unless I want to go 4-5 miles out of my way, so I can't realistically change my route.
If I see him again or have anotehr incident with him I will for shure take down plates and report him.
The problem is, is that the street that the problem has happened is one i absolutely have to go down unless I want to go 4-5 miles out of my way, so I can't realistically change my route.
If I see him again or have anotehr incident with him I will for shure take down plates and report him.