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Rear facing camera or radar

Old 09-10-19, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Group rides. I want it on all the time during my solo rides, but I don't need to be flashing in my guys' faces on group rides.
I checked when I got home tonight and yep -- there's no radar on, light off option.

I guess an acceptable compromise is solid light on, radar on. It's the blinking that blinds people, more than the light itself.
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Old 09-10-19, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
I checked when I got home tonight and yep -- there's no radar on, light off option.

I guess an acceptable compromise is solid light on, radar on. It's the blinking that blinds people, more than the light itself.
The “solid” on option did not seem that annoying to me but it starts to flash when a detected car gets closer, so depends on how many cars a group ride encounters I guess.
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Old 09-10-19, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeler_fanatic View Post
This is a good topic as I am considering the Varia as an added safety feature. I would forgo the Cyclic and instead get a helmet mirror with the Vario. The mirror IMO is an essential safety feature you can add for less than $15. I won't ride without one (and have an extra in my saddle bag) as it gives a great view of what's happening behind. In my experience, turning your head to glance behind has a tendency to pull you further into the lane of travel.
The helmet mirror does not provide you with video evidence in case things go badly.

I use the Varia and the Cycliq.
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Old 09-10-19, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
The helmet mirror does not provide you with video evidence in case things go badly.

I use the Varia and the Cycliq.
Of course getting both is best but the original question was one or the other.
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Old 09-10-19, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Steeler_fanatic View Post
Of course getting both is best but the original question was one or the other.
As I explained in a previous post, if you can afford to get both then I highly recommend it.
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Old 09-10-19, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Group rides. I want it on all the time during my solo rides, but I don't need to be flashing in my guys' faces on group rides.
Hmmm. I sat on my wife's wheel for two hours today, and I hardly even noticed the flashing lights on her Varia radar.
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Old 09-11-19, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Hmmm. I sat on my wife's wheel for two hours today, and I hardly even noticed the flashing lights on her Varia radar.
Cool. When you come on my group rides, I'll keep that in mind. Until then, I'll defer to the opinions of those present.
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Old 09-11-19, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Cool. When you come on my group rides, I'll keep that in mind. Until then, I'll defer to the opinions of those present.
That's interesting. I've used mine in groups many times, and I've ridden in groups where 3 or 4 riders had them, and I've never heard anyone complain about them. They aren't very bright lights.
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Old 09-11-19, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
That's interesting. I've used mine in groups many times, and I've ridden in groups where 3 or 4 riders had them, and I've never heard anyone complain about them. They aren't very bright lights.
Cool. When I come on one of your group rides, I'll keep that in mind. Until then, I'll defer to the opinions of those present in my group rides.
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Keep in mind there's two generations. The first generation Varia is not even a light, it's just a bar of LEDs that flash when it detects something. The current generation also includes a super bright light -- comparable to my Bontrager Flare, although I haven't actually compared lumens. But it's really, really bright.
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Old 09-11-19, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
But it's really, really bright.
When I turned it on after taking it out of the box, I had after-images seared into my eyes for a while; I haven't been as nonchalant with it since.
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When I turned it on after taking it out of the box, I had after-images seared into my eyes for a while; I haven't been as nonchalant with it since.
Yeah, directly looking at it indoors does burn the retina . When I was testing it outdoors for the flashing patterns, I thought the solid mode might be a little bit more tolerable as I was looking at it at a more or less 45 degree angle.

Continuous flash, in a group ride though; “fugged****udit”

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Originally Posted by ksryder View Post
Keep in mind there's two generations. The first generation Varia is not even a light, it's just a bar of LEDs that flash when it detects something. The current generation also includes a super bright light -- comparable to my Bontrager Flare, although I haven't actually compared lumens. But it's really, really bright.
That's useful info.
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