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Old 01-09-15, 09:28 PM
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A Gold Beauty - Another First

Back in December I was alerted to an interesting frameset that had appeared on eBay. I have been very good this past year at avoiding the purchase of new framesets, but this one was so special I couldn't help myself. I took a few pictures of the fork, but I'll not have time to show the rest of the frame until later. Pics below. Enjoy!


Fork teaser - 1 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr


Fork teaser - 2 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr


Fork teaser - 3 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr


Fork teaser - 4 by Sallad Rialb, on Flickr
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well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
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Originally Posted by juvela
well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
It took me a couple seconds to decipher ewe kaye. Quite clever. You are spot on with that. I'll have more and better pics tomorrow.
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thank you, shall look forward to the balance of her unveilmenture.
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Seen that forkcrown before but no idea as to make. Subscribing...
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her corona could only be a perpetration of monsieur haden.

unable as yet to locate model name...

me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
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That's really unusual and pretty. I'm interested in seeing the rest of the bike and how you decide to build it up.
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Fork's bent.

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This is like a C&V strip tease, as opposed to outright C&V bike porn.
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Fork's bent.

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simply no end to the quackery.
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Looks like a Mclean fork.
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Norman...again?
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Seen that forkcrown before but no idea as to make. Subscribing...
i'm not familiar with that crown either. I'm flummoxed a bit but pretty sure someone will figure it out.
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A fan dance has commenced.

I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
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Originally Posted by juvela
her corona could only be a perpetration of monsieur haden.

unable as yet to locate model name...

me thimketh we are squarely in the mcml's here.
I'm not much of a fork crown expert, but you may be correct. For date: Post-War. MCMXLs. When you see the frame, you'll understand the logic. I promise to have the frame pictures posted later today.
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I vote Norman for the frame, not the fork crown. I defer to Norris L when obscure bits are concerned, but he's not posted in weeks.

Haden does sound right, tho. We await. . .
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Originally Posted by jiangshi
Looks like a Mclean fork.
Not a Maclean (Mclean). But a good guess.
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Originally Posted by clubman
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A fan dance has commenced.

I vote for Norman, too. 50s, or earlier?
You guys definitely know my fondness for Norman. Here's a couple hints. It's not southern UK. Think boutique builder.

LL, it's earlier than 1950's. Estimated early post-war period. Once the remainder of the pics are posted, you'll see why.
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Ok jack taylor?
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DeRosa?
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Also, the frameset has a fair bit of patina as evidenced by the fork, but is otherwise sound. The boxlining is very well-done and in an uncommon fashion (dare I say unique?) which would make it nearly impossible to re-create. In combination with the fact this is the original finish, this gold bike shall remain in its original dress.
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Ok jack taylor?
This definitely has some JT characteristics but, sorry, no.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
DeRosa?
Neal, you already know what it is (not DeRosa). Get out of my thread!
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Originally Posted by juvela
well, whatever she be we are certainly in the ewe kaye with this find...
nrk in the ewe kaye?
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I believe that's a Brampton fork crown, which would mean the maker had access to Brampton fittings, which would narrow the field to someone working in the last century or so. Progress!

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I realize it's not exactly the same, but Brampton made a lot of different style lugs etc.
https://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...n/BramCrnL.jpg

I'll take responsibility for putting this particular blip on the @photogravity radar screen, so I'm not going to annoy you with spurious guesses. I know what it is. But I will offer, as a hypotheses, that the frame was made in 1950.
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