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If it's a stranger, I would ask them something like "what kind of exercise do you do?" If they don't exercise, I say "If you have a family that needs you, don't you need to exercise instead of sitting most of the time".
If they think that's a stupid question, I respond with " I'm just responding to a stupid comment.".
If they think that's a stupid question, I respond with " I'm just responding to a stupid comment.".
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Once in a while I hear similar concerns to the OP, and I'm happy to talk about the width of the bike lanes and zebra striping on my route, and how I'm riding the same roads at pretty much the same time every day with the same car-commuters, so they are used to seeing me, and how the real danger points are when bike lanes jump from the curb to the inside of right-turn lanes, but how I watch cars in my helmet mirror and very rarely see cars that race ahead of me to beat me into the right-turn lane, but almost always hang back and let me through, and, and, and
and they usually get tired before I do.
and they usually get tired before I do.
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Studies show that 73.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot
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How do you respond to people who tell you, "I'm worried about you out there on a bike with all those crazy drivers and drunks?"
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Various reports and links have been posted in BF in past years all indicating the annual road fatalities in the US are about 36,000. And that includes about 8000 for pedestrians and bicyclists combined.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
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Various reports and links have been posted in BF in past years all indicating the annual road fatalities in the US are about 36,000. And that includes about 8000 for pedestrians and bicyclists combined.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
Also, there's no way that CPH has similar numbers, so post your source.
edit: this is what you should've posted
CORRECTION: This version has been updated to clarify that the U.S. highway fatality rate reported by NHTSA for 2016 was 1.18 per 100 million vehicle miles traveled.
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Various reports and links have been posted in BF in past years all indicating the annual road fatalities in the US are about 36,000. And that includes about 8000 for pedestrians and bicyclists combined.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
Here's one I just found:
https://www.consumerreports.org/tran...ay-fatalities/
37,000 total for 2017
6000 pedestrians
840 bicycles
And various reports from Copenhagen and Toronto show similar ratios.
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I've now got the perfect comeback -- although I don't recommend anyone else "qualify." According to my cardiologist, I'd be dead by now if it weren't for all the cycling (including commuting) I did over the previous 19 years. If a drunk kills me on my home today, I'll have lived two years and a bit longer after my heart attack than if I never got back on a bicycle.
Plus, I enjoyed my commute in today. Did you?
Another good response!
Plus, I enjoyed my commute in today. Did you?
Another good response!
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There was an interesting thread a while back discussing the most meaningful way to statistically compare car and bike safety -- by distance or by time is I think the biggest question. Different metrics answer different questions.
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I've now got the perfect comeback -- although I don't recommend anyone else "qualify." According to my cardiologist, I'd be dead by now if it weren't for all the cycling (including commuting) I did over the previous 19 years. If a drunk kills me on my home today, I'll have lived two years and a bit longer after my heart attack than if I never got back on a bicycle.
Plus, I enjoyed my commute in today. Did you?
Another good response!
Plus, I enjoyed my commute in today. Did you?
Another good response!
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Flying in space is the safest form of travel based on the number of deaths per mile. How does adding distance help? The Space Shuttle had a rate of 1 death in 38.7 million miles, but it is not considered particularly safe.
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Once in a while I hear similar concerns to the OP, and I'm happy to talk about the width of the bike lanes and zebra striping on my route, and how I'm riding the same roads at pretty much the same time every day with the same car-commuters, so they are used to seeing me, and how the real danger points are when bike lanes jump from the curb to the inside of right-turn lanes, but how I watch cars in my helmet mirror and very rarely see cars that race ahead of me to beat me into the right-turn lane, but almost always hang back and let me through, and, and, and
and they usually get tired before I do.
and they usually get tired before I do.
Dat fookin geezer on da yello pushbike.
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Good enough for me! I'll take a space shuttle ride...or a soyez ride....whatever. I'm not picky. I just wanna go on a spaceship.
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Start saving your shekels. A flight to the ISS may be in your future. It has traveled 2.6 billion miles without a single death. Those are actual miles, not some phony “passenger miles.”