Et Tu George?
05-21-11, 07:50 AM
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One thing I find interesting is reading through the earlier pages of an old thread that has been bumped up. The vast majority of posters have left. Just a few familiar insane names hanging around. I guess most move on after tiring of the repetition.
05-21-11, 07:51 AM
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The next paragraph from the same article:
"Hincapie has not however denied that he has give evidence to the Federal Grand jury who are currently investigating the alleged used of PHS at US Postal over a decade ago, nor had he denied the content of the CBS reports. He has simply denied talking to them."
"Hincapie has not however denied that he has give evidence to the Federal Grand jury who are currently investigating the alleged used of PHS at US Postal over a decade ago, nor had he denied the content of the CBS reports. He has simply denied talking to them."
Just read between the lines of Hincapie's tweets.
I can confirm to you I never spoke with "60 Minutes." I have no idea where they got their information.
As I've said in the past, I continue to be disappointed that people are talking about the past in cycling instead of the future.
As for the substance of anything in the "60 Minutes" story, I cannot comment on anything relating to the ongoing investigation.
I don't see much of a reason to believe that he didn't actually admit to this.
05-21-11, 07:55 AM
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This thread really does
Need a little Haiku to
Calm everyone down
Need a little Haiku to
Calm everyone down
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05-21-11, 07:57 AM
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I suppose all this could put a crimp in Lance's endorsement career, eh?
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05-21-11, 08:18 AM
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I always liked Hincapie, so I might be a little biased. I have held on fast to the proposition that as a stand up guy, he was not gonna bull**** the Grand Jury. And, as pointed out, he never denied taking PEDs, he only denied speaking to CBS.
I am waiting for the GJ transcript to come out, and of course, also waiting to see how LA's hacks are gonna go after Big George. The MO of LA's hackers is to try and discredit anyone who confirms that they either doped with LA or saw him use PEDs. I wonder what Sheryl Crow saw? And what about Johan Bruyneel?
And If it is true that a Tour de Suisse positive test was burried, then I hope the UCI hacks are also permanently discredited.
Folks, the lesson for all of us, even though we have not got to the bottom of this, is not to compound whatever crap we found ourselves in by lying further, as it is always the cover-up that bites you in the ass.
I am waiting for the GJ transcript to come out, and of course, also waiting to see how LA's hacks are gonna go after Big George. The MO of LA's hackers is to try and discredit anyone who confirms that they either doped with LA or saw him use PEDs. I wonder what Sheryl Crow saw? And what about Johan Bruyneel?
And If it is true that a Tour de Suisse positive test was burried, then I hope the UCI hacks are also permanently discredited.
Folks, the lesson for all of us, even though we have not got to the bottom of this, is not to compound whatever crap we found ourselves in by lying further, as it is always the cover-up that bites you in the ass.
05-21-11, 08:26 AM
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I can now reveal for the first time that Velo Vol and I supplied each other with Twinkies during the 2009 season. I saw Gomer eat Twinkies many, many times. We all did.
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05-21-11, 08:27 AM
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It's a form of insanity, you have heard, no doubt, that old statement regarding insanity- "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results". That pretty much sums up my impression of this and most other threads . Just substitute "doing the same thing" with "reading the same thing".
One thing I find interesting is reading through the earlier pages of an old thread that has been bumped up. The vast majority of posters have left. Just a few familiar insane names hanging around. I guess most move on after tiring of the repetition.
One thing I find interesting is reading through the earlier pages of an old thread that has been bumped up. The vast majority of posters have left. Just a few familiar insane names hanging around. I guess most move on after tiring of the repetition.
It's newsworthy, no? And so, it's worthy of discussion as well.
05-21-11, 08:44 AM
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I am shocked....SHOCKED!!
Velo vol is a twinker, Oh the humanity.
Velo vol is a twinker, Oh the humanity.
05-21-11, 08:52 AM
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05-21-11, 08:52 AM
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You're just trying to cash in on the easy money and publicity of implicating yourself and another.
05-21-11, 08:52 AM
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How tough is that Monte Zoncolan climb @ the Giro? I'm watching this morning's stage and one of the support motorcycles overheated so bad 4 km from the top it was blowing steam all over the course. If the motorbikes blow, what chance do the riders have?
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Someone forgot to add the EPO to the motorcycles fuel.
05-21-11, 08:55 AM
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05-21-11, 09:15 AM
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that made the crucial difference between him and the rest of the field who were also doping during that time, i.e. his ability to endure suffering based on his battle with cancer and the 24/7 suffering he endured through all the chemo, poisoned to the gills to the point where he couldn't even move at times. Lance wasn't expected to live, although he was told he had a 30% chance. the Drs routinely saw ppl with less severe cases die. but he's a fighter, and he refused to quit. making sense yet?
in case you haven't read about it yet, a list was leaked to a french publication that ranks pro riders on a scale of 0-10 based on their history of blood test results. low being little suspicion of doping, higher being likely. Lance was on the low side of the scale, implying that many other non TDF winners have higher ratings. and what about Cancellera, who dominated the classics last yr and was accused of having a motor in his bike? he was rated 0 of 10. how's that for the status quo changing?
in case you haven't read about it yet, a list was leaked to a french publication that ranks pro riders on a scale of 0-10 based on their history of blood test results. low being little suspicion of doping, higher being likely. Lance was on the low side of the scale, implying that many other non TDF winners have higher ratings. and what about Cancellera, who dominated the classics last yr and was accused of having a motor in his bike? he was rated 0 of 10. how's that for the status quo changing?
05-21-11, 09:23 AM
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Shut up about never testing positive. Are you that naive? cheaters are always ahead of the testers. I thought that was common knowledge, but I guess not to brain-washed Lance Fanboys. There will never be a time where there's accurate and sophisticated testing method to catch all of the cheaters. Stop living in the dream world.
05-21-11, 09:32 AM
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20yrs cycling, 500 tests, zero positives, yada yada yada...
I think the interesting side story here is -- how? Sure LA got tested a TON; he must have been pretty sleuthy and creative to avoid getting caught.
How'd he avoid positives so well?
I think the interesting side story here is -- how? Sure LA got tested a TON; he must have been pretty sleuthy and creative to avoid getting caught.
How'd he avoid positives so well?
05-21-11, 09:45 AM
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Truth will come...and that'll be the thread. Your just licking the spoon with this stuff. Wait till it's baked.
05-21-11, 11:01 AM
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Of course anyone who really thought anybody was winning major stage races without doping c. 2000 is clueless about pro cycling anyway, I've long thought that was a foregone conclusion.
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You could see the storm coming.
I'm not the guy's biggest fan but seriously don't the Feds have more important things to do? There are bigger crimes being dealt out to the public.
I'm not the guy's biggest fan but seriously don't the Feds have more important things to do? There are bigger crimes being dealt out to the public.
05-21-11, 12:21 PM
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I stopped eating them, though. For you it was a gateway food that lead you down the pathway of gluttony and excess girth.
05-21-11, 12:23 PM
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This line is interesting from the article, "After Armstrong's cancer diagnosis, former teammates say, even Ferrari questioned his methods. "I remember when we were on a training ride in 2002, Lance told me that Ferrari had been paranoid that he had helped cause the cancer and became more conservative after that," says Landis. (Ferrari, again, declined to talk to SI for this story.)"
It's from Landis, but he's more and more credible
It's from Landis, but he's more and more credible
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Do you have to testify to a grand jury ? Couldn't George et al plead the 5th ?
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