Bike probably too big. How much can I shorten stem?
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Being too *short* can cause back pain too, especially in the upper back. The TT sounds right for your size (depending on inner leg etc...) Especially considering your shallow drop, I'd say try a longer stem...
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Sounds like your bike is the right size TT wise. What is your inseam and how long/short are your arms? I'd say you need at least a 4-5 cm drop to the reach you need and move your back out of that pressure point that is causing you pain.
I'm 6'2 with 34.5" legs and long as arms. I ride a 55 frame and 130 stem w/ about 5" drop. My other bike is a 58 frame, and a 105 stem with about the same drop. The smaller frame climbs better then the larger one for me. Both are agressive fits but I'm pretty flexable in all positions on the bars.
I'm 6'2 with 34.5" legs and long as arms. I ride a 55 frame and 130 stem w/ about 5" drop. My other bike is a 58 frame, and a 105 stem with about the same drop. The smaller frame climbs better then the larger one for me. Both are agressive fits but I'm pretty flexable in all positions on the bars.
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My 2 cents.
It seems to me that your toptube is in the correct ballpark for someone your size. Have you flipped your stem up to raise the bars? Are the bars at their max height? I would suggest that you not go shorter than 100 for a first cut. YMMV.
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A 2 cm drop with 57tt and you are 6'1"? You must be all torso and short legged then. I am 6'1" and ride a 57.5cm tt with 110mm stem and I am not particularly flexible. How long is your head tube and what is your cycling inseam?
OP, you can ride a 80mm stem with no adverse effect to handling so don't sweat that. As the other guys attested, most that are over 6' tall have at least a 57cm top tube so your bike isn't too big.
OP, you can ride a 80mm stem with no adverse effect to handling so don't sweat that. As the other guys attested, most that are over 6' tall have at least a 57cm top tube so your bike isn't too big.
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Hmmm, seems like lengthening the stem as you suggested would stretch me out even further. As I said before, I don't ride in the drops much, so drop of the bars really doesn't matter all that much does it?
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Whitemax, I have lower back pain too (result of an old skiing injury where I pulled/tore some muscles - I've been back thru physical therapy a couple times). When getting into road cycling in the 90's, I had pain and played with bar positioning, but didn't find relief.
The secret for me is core strengthening. I do a set of several excersizes to strenghen my core/back (abs are key too), and stretch the muscles if I feel any signs of tightness or pain. You might try this.
The secret for me is core strengthening. I do a set of several excersizes to strenghen my core/back (abs are key too), and stretch the muscles if I feel any signs of tightness or pain. You might try this.
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Whitemax, I have lower back pain too (result of an old skiing injury where I pulled/tore some muscles - I've been back thru physical therapy a couple times). When getting into road cycling in the 90's, I had pain and played with bar positioning, but didn't find relief.
The secret for me is core strengthening. I do a set of several excersizes to strenghen my core/back (abs are key too), and stretch the muscles if I feel any signs of tightness or pain. You might try this.
The secret for me is core strengthening. I do a set of several excersizes to strenghen my core/back (abs are key too), and stretch the muscles if I feel any signs of tightness or pain. You might try this.
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I would monkey around with a ton of different modifications on your own. Then, if nothing seems to work, I'd try a professional fitting at a reputable shop. And if that doesn't work, try synchronized water ballet.
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Thanks to all for some very good comments. I am going to start my shortening my stem from 110 to 90 cm to see what effect that might have. I was mostly interested in finding out what I could expect with regards to the way the steering might be effected by doing so and if it would not be recommended. My LBS said he didn't like to see a stem go below 100 but couldn't say why.
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might be worth going to a chiropractor to find out if you back is ok. Sometimes the bike is not the problem.
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Thanks to all for some very good comments. I am going to start my shortening my stem from 110 to 90 cm to see what effect that might have. I was mostly interested in finding out what I could expect with regards to the way the steering might be effected by doing so and if it would not be recommended. My LBS said he didn't like to see a stem go below 100 but couldn't say why.
1 - put you on a trainer with an adjustable fitting stem. It was a revelation to me, as they adjusted the length and rise that I found a sweet spot that was distinctive.
2 - put that stem on your bike and let you ride it a couple 100 miles. Then swap it out for a different one if needed, or let you try some variation for several days each. The fitting stem will give you an idea if the stem is the issue, the riding it a while will confirm or point you towards a different solution. My LBS has a rack full of take off and exchange stems. They are willing to more or less swap them out as needed, assuming I buy the original stem from them.