Niner MCR 9 RDO Full Suspension Gravel Bike
04-12-19, 11:38 PM
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dude... like hell yeah!
when I test rode the RDO I beat the heck out of it on some single track and it was a blast. take some of that edge off.... even better!
for people that want to get some where on the road and take some serious shortcuts.
for some reason I love this thing!
when I test rode the RDO I beat the heck out of it on some single track and it was a blast. take some of that edge off.... even better!
for people that want to get some where on the road and take some serious shortcuts.
for some reason I love this thing!
04-13-19, 08:34 AM
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I totally agree with Niner that we need some sort of suspension in order to have a blast in hard gravel rides but I do not buy their solution just yet. I think that Specialized with new Roubaix is doing a more adequate job. Their future shock 2.0 is enough for the front and a nice flexing seat tube combined with / or flexing seatpost like VCLS 2.0 is enough for the back. Adding real suspension causes a lot of drawbacks: not only weight penalty but also black / white situation. When you lock the suspension to get better power transfer you will feel every bumb 2 times more because rest of the frame is totally rigid to accomodate suspension and when suspension is ON, you loose a lot of power just to move forward so it is esentially a solution for downhill and not everyday riding. But maybe Niner will prove me wrong...
04-13-19, 09:11 AM
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If you are going full suspension on a XC or gravel bike, why stop at 40-50mm of cush for the added weight. Go with 100mm ... it weighs the same.
Ask XC riders why they ride with flat bars.
Ask XC riders why they ride with flat bars.
04-13-19, 09:18 AM
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100mm fudges the geometry enough that there's no way they couldn't end up just making an XC bike with drop bars. Have to have at least some product differentiation to justify sales/jobs for engineers.
04-13-19, 10:02 AM
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If you're riding trails where you think you need suspension (insert HTFU here), grab a better tool from the tool box, like a 22 pound XC bike with low profile knobbies and on-the-fly lockout for the road sections. Swap out your front ring with one that's a little bigger/road-friendly and you're ready to go.
04-13-19, 12:02 PM
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04-13-19, 12:33 PM
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If they can put full suspension on a road bike, they can put full suspension on a gravel bike.
04-13-19, 12:50 PM
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I just don't see the attraction of that franken-gravel thing.
If you're riding trails where you think you need suspension (insert HTFU here), grab a better tool from the tool box, like a 22 pound XC bike with low profile knobbies and on-the-fly lockout for the road sections. Swap out your front ring with one that's a little bigger/road-friendly and you're ready to go.
If you're riding trails where you think you need suspension (insert HTFU here), grab a better tool from the tool box, like a 22 pound XC bike with low profile knobbies and on-the-fly lockout for the road sections. Swap out your front ring with one that's a little bigger/road-friendly and you're ready to go.
some of us ride to the trail head....
04-13-19, 01:39 PM
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
Like most folks, we drive and ride to the trail head. If I was limited to the local trails I would miss out on some fantastic riding. Even though I live at the base of a 3800' mountain and we have decent trails to ride.
It would suck even more if I was stuck in the flatlands and was limited to only riding to the trail head.
Like most folks, we drive and ride to the trail head. If I was limited to the local trails I would miss out on some fantastic riding. Even though I live at the base of a 3800' mountain and we have decent trails to ride.
It would suck even more if I was stuck in the flatlands and was limited to only riding to the trail head.
04-13-19, 03:47 PM
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Well, guess we'll have to see how it sells.
If it does not do well, Niner can paint it a different color, throw a new stem and flat bars on it, and call it their "Light - Trail" LT mountain bike.
If it does not do well, Niner can paint it a different color, throw a new stem and flat bars on it, and call it their "Light - Trail" LT mountain bike.
04-13-19, 09:19 PM
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Those comparing it to or calling it a full suspension mountain bike...
To be fair, Niner explains that the suspension is designed and tuned for high frequency, low amplitude bumps like one gets when riding over gravel. Bump and rebound are linear, not progressive. "Its OK if it bottoms out" they say.
It isn't designed for big hits or riding down the side of rock slabs.
-Tim-
To be fair, Niner explains that the suspension is designed and tuned for high frequency, low amplitude bumps like one gets when riding over gravel. Bump and rebound are linear, not progressive. "Its OK if it bottoms out" they say.
It isn't designed for big hits or riding down the side of rock slabs.
-Tim-
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04-13-19, 09:58 PM
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04-13-19, 10:01 PM
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What does your "driving to the trailhead" tangent have to do with my comments about Niner's new bike?
Are you perhaps confused by the fact that many folks ride gravel bikes on trails as well as roads?
04-13-19, 10:16 PM
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Ok, I indulged you and read it again.
There's a new Niner FS gravel bike. Someone noted that it's as heavy as an XC race bike. An XC race bike that is arguably just as capable (maybe more because it can be made rigid at the flick of a switch) on gravel/paved roads and much more capable on trails. I also posted of picture of said bike.
Your response to that observation was to tell me that "some of us ride to the trail."
Now it's your turn, again:
What does your "driving to the trailhead" tangent have to do with my comments about Niner's new bike?
There's a new Niner FS gravel bike. Someone noted that it's as heavy as an XC race bike. An XC race bike that is arguably just as capable (maybe more because it can be made rigid at the flick of a switch) on gravel/paved roads and much more capable on trails. I also posted of picture of said bike.
Your response to that observation was to tell me that "some of us ride to the trail."
Now it's your turn, again:
What does your "driving to the trailhead" tangent have to do with my comments about Niner's new bike?
04-13-19, 10:19 PM
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I attempted to get a free sample, but all I gots is some lousy photos:
04-13-19, 10:21 PM
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Sea Otter is like trying to sip water from a fire hose.
The main question I have is whether it behaves more like a road bike on paved surfaces than a typical XC conventional FS mountain bike.
The main question I have is whether it behaves more like a road bike on paved surfaces than a typical XC conventional FS mountain bike.
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04-13-19, 10:36 PM
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cool..... maybe Ted Kind will drop Aero bars on a MTB for gravel ..... OR NOT.
04-13-19, 10:44 PM
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You forgot, for the second time, to answer the simple question that I posed. Why is that?
What does your "driving to the trailhead" tangent have to do with my comments about Niner's new bike?
04-14-19, 06:20 AM
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Those comparing it to or calling it a full suspension mountain bike...
To be fair, Niner explains that the suspension is designed and tuned for high frequency, low amplitude bumps like one gets when riding over gravel. Bump and rebound are linear, not progressive. "Its OK if it bottoms out" they say.
It isn't designed for big hits or riding down the side of rock slabs.
-Tim-
To be fair, Niner explains that the suspension is designed and tuned for high frequency, low amplitude bumps like one gets when riding over gravel. Bump and rebound are linear, not progressive. "Its OK if it bottoms out" they say.
It isn't designed for big hits or riding down the side of rock slabs.
-Tim-
04-14-19, 12:19 PM
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if they could integrate the suspension system with SRAM AXS I could see a selling point, 6 cables looks too messy
04-14-19, 09:48 PM
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The best thing about the bike is the lack of SRAM.