How does fixing a flat tire affect your rides?
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Ride tires with liners. It can be worth sacrificing a bit of rolling resistance to know there is a lot less chance of a puncture.
Punctures in sunny weather is OK, but if it's raining really hard and there is no shelter then of course it's not much fun.
Punctures in sunny weather is OK, but if it's raining really hard and there is no shelter then of course it's not much fun.
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I’m a vintage road bike guy. I carry the same stuff that I carried in the seventies. A patch kit with the tire pry tools , spare tube and pump. I also have the basic multi tool accessory. My pumps are either a Zefal HP or Silca Impero. If I flat , I almost always patch it . I have only switched tubes maybe a couple of times. For me it is part of the ride, not the end. I ride alone so I don’t worry about holding anyone up. I am usually in a more rural area so it is not like being in the middle of the city.
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My average ride is around 40 miles. It's not like turning around is any better.
I quit and did a pickup one time out of maybe 25 flats. It was colder and night. I had built up some sweat which chilled me when I stopped to fix the flat. I patched the hole but went flat again in about 5 minutes. I've switched to tubeless and my frequent flats are a thing of the past.
I quit and did a pickup one time out of maybe 25 flats. It was colder and night. I had built up some sweat which chilled me when I stopped to fix the flat. I patched the hole but went flat again in about 5 minutes. I've switched to tubeless and my frequent flats are a thing of the past.
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I'm a little bummed because I was gonna go on a long bike ride today. I got 2 flats in my front tire in the last month in the same spot and just before that I had went a whole year and a half without getting any flats. Just really weird how at times I don't get flats for months and other times they seem to happen in spurts.
Now, when I use a mini pump on the road to fix a flat, it doesn't get my tire completely firm. How many pumps would you say it takes? I did about 250 pumps and it still didn't seem very hard. So I didn't finish my ride, I just headed home to pump it up.
Oh by the way, do you leave your main pump in your car or just in the garage?
How does getting a flat affect your ride? Do you finish what you set out to do? What if you're a long ride? 30 miles, 50 miles, 70 miles, etc.. Would getting a flat make you just ride back to your car or home? I asked the guy at the bike shop what he would recommend and he said he'd just ride home. It's a little discouraging especially when I committed to spending half a day riding.
But what if you're doing some kind of a weekend tour with a group? Do you think just fixing a flat is going to be sufficient enough to continue the long rides? How do most go about this?
I just thought I'd get your perspectives and opinions on this topic.
Now, when I use a mini pump on the road to fix a flat, it doesn't get my tire completely firm. How many pumps would you say it takes? I did about 250 pumps and it still didn't seem very hard. So I didn't finish my ride, I just headed home to pump it up.
Oh by the way, do you leave your main pump in your car or just in the garage?
How does getting a flat affect your ride? Do you finish what you set out to do? What if you're a long ride? 30 miles, 50 miles, 70 miles, etc.. Would getting a flat make you just ride back to your car or home? I asked the guy at the bike shop what he would recommend and he said he'd just ride home. It's a little discouraging especially when I committed to spending half a day riding.
But what if you're doing some kind of a weekend tour with a group? Do you think just fixing a flat is going to be sufficient enough to continue the long rides? How do most go about this?
I just thought I'd get your perspectives and opinions on this topic.
I always carry two spare inner tubes with me, a hand pump, c02 canisters, a patch kit, and the little plastic levers that help you get a tire off. I also carry an air pressure gauge with me to measure tire pressure and in my car I have a regular bike pump. I always check my tire pressure on my bike and if necessary fill up my tires before every ride. I also like to split my rides sometimes into two rides in one day to cover 20-30 miles for two reasons: 1) I work on call and if I get called and can't resolve the issue remotely with my Android I can more easily get back to car quickly to drive into work. 2) If something happens like a flat, I don't have that far to cycle back to car or walk my bike if necessary.
I would rather ride at a 2-3 mile slower pace with a slower bike and not have the headache of having to get a flat, as long as I still can cover the 20-30 mile ride in a day.
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Some riders don't like things hanging off their bikes, like saddle bags with spare parts or even a pump. I have no problem with this. I have a full size saddle bag with the a tube, patch kit and the tools to do most road side repairs, also have a longer hand pump that's good to 100 psi with a tube, and foot pedal.
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A flat should only be a 5 minute interruption to your ride. Practice at home. Use CO2 so you don’t get tired pumping. Carry a pump for backup of that makes you feel better.
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I don’t mean to hijack, but once you patch a tube, assuming it is holding pressure do you just keep riding on it for subsequent outings?
Is there any reason to replace the patched tube when you get home?
Is there any reason to replace the patched tube when you get home?
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Topeak Morph goes with me on all my rides, and flats are a momentary annoyance, but I'm usually rolling again in just a few minutes, at full pressure.
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So I have several bikes.
My vintage one has a nice long frame pump that works nearly as well as a floor pump. A flat on that bike is NBD. It means I can put in a new tube or mess with a patch and not be worried if it happens again.
My road bike I carry 2 CO2 cartridges. In theory, that's 2 tires. It could also mean 1 tire and one mistake. I won't rely on co2 if I can't find a way home without a functional bike.
Gravel and mountain, small frame pump, patch kit, one spare tube, and plugs. Theoretically, I could pretty much go forever but pumping gets tiresome.
I go out of my way to avoid the flats. Fairly fresh tires, topped up sealant, proper PSI etc. I'd rather mess with it at home instead of the side of the road.
That said, if I'm on a loop or really early in a ride and I have a flat, I may just head home and switch bikes. Usually, I'll just send my wife a photo of the flat and continue on the way. That usually buys me a little more riding time than the repair actually takes.
My vintage one has a nice long frame pump that works nearly as well as a floor pump. A flat on that bike is NBD. It means I can put in a new tube or mess with a patch and not be worried if it happens again.
My road bike I carry 2 CO2 cartridges. In theory, that's 2 tires. It could also mean 1 tire and one mistake. I won't rely on co2 if I can't find a way home without a functional bike.
Gravel and mountain, small frame pump, patch kit, one spare tube, and plugs. Theoretically, I could pretty much go forever but pumping gets tiresome.
I go out of my way to avoid the flats. Fairly fresh tires, topped up sealant, proper PSI etc. I'd rather mess with it at home instead of the side of the road.
That said, if I'm on a loop or really early in a ride and I have a flat, I may just head home and switch bikes. Usually, I'll just send my wife a photo of the flat and continue on the way. That usually buys me a little more riding time than the repair actually takes.
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I always carry a spare tube, tire levers, and a pump - mini or frame, depending on which bike. I tried CO2, - and yes I practiced using it at home, successfully - but the two times I needed it, I ended up just blowing out two cartridges trying to put them into the inflator. One time I walked a mile back to the car. The other time I made the Call Of Shame, because I'd ridden from home. SO now I depend on 'force of arms' rather than technology!
Most of my rides are out-and-backs, so I'm most likely to flat on the return trip, so I just pump up and get home as best I can.
Most of my rides are out-and-backs, so I'm most likely to flat on the return trip, so I just pump up and get home as best I can.
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Posts like this make me rethink my desire to buy a road bike. If I am riding either my Trek Hybrid FX2 or my Schwinn Mountain Bike...
I would rather ride at a 2-3 mile slower pace with a slower bike and not have the headache of having to get a flat, as long as I still can cover the 20-30 mile ride in a day.
I would rather ride at a 2-3 mile slower pace with a slower bike and not have the headache of having to get a flat, as long as I still can cover the 20-30 mile ride in a day.
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When I get punctures, typically my odds of it being cookie cutter for fixing is low. Had a puncture that put the debris thru the wheel center section right next to a spoke hole. It ruined the wheel & that ride.
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It just delays me 5-10 minutes
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what about the time while you're doing the repair & [folks that are not on bicycles] see it an opportunity to come over to you to "see" what it is that you're doing. Then they want to try & hold a (socially distant) conversation about some BITD when they remember how XYZ was their method for doing what you are doing now.. ?
Must be a sign on my back that says "Open for conversation, please come inconvenience me more on this hot humid day"
Must be a sign on my back that says "Open for conversation, please come inconvenience me more on this hot humid day"
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It sounds to me like you didn't find and eliminate the cause of your first flat. Until you do, you are doomed to having recuring frequent punctures.
Steel belted radial car tires leave a trail of tiny little wires on the roads. They're only about 1/4 inch long and will sometimes hide in your bike tire. They can be the very dickens to find and, after you do find it, they can be even harder to root out. I don't get very many punctures but a high percentage of them in recent years have been from radial wires. I've recently added a needle nose pliers to my on the bike tool kit just for dealing with those little wires.
Steel belted radial car tires leave a trail of tiny little wires on the roads. They're only about 1/4 inch long and will sometimes hide in your bike tire. They can be the very dickens to find and, after you do find it, they can be even harder to root out. I don't get very many punctures but a high percentage of them in recent years have been from radial wires. I've recently added a needle nose pliers to my on the bike tool kit just for dealing with those little wires.
Probably mentioned already, but if you patch your tube (or at least find the hole and mark it, say with chalk, you can use the tube to find the cause in the tire (assuming you line up the tire the same way each time I center the label over the valve. Knowing exactly where to look simplifies finding those wires - think needles in haystacks. Getting to within 3 inches with a metal detector could save a week or month of your life if you HAD to find that needle.
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what about the time while you're doing the repair & [folks that are not on bicycles] see it an opportunity to come over to you to "see" what it is that you're doing. Then they want to try & hold a (socially distant) conversation about some BITD when they remember how XYZ was their method for doing what you are doing now.. ?
Must be a sign on my back that says "Open for conversation, please come inconvenience me more on this hot humid day"
Must be a sign on my back that says "Open for conversation, please come inconvenience me more on this hot humid day"
Anyway as i'm changing the tube 3 people stopped and told me I was doing it wrong. 5 minutes later I rode past them on my way back to the MUP.
I spend more time making sure the tube is not under the bead than taking the tire off and putting it back on.
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Oh, tires and tubes. I used to race and love "the ride". Rode sew-ups for decades and will go back But I've spent the last 20 years on clinchers, good ones for rides on my good bikes, good compromises for my rain/Portland winter/city bikes. Good bike these days get the Vittoria Corsa G+ or 2.0 tires. City bikes get Panasonic Paselas. All bikes get: a good frame pump (being able to carry one cleanly is a requirement for any bike in my stable), a tool bag with - 2 tubes for the tires on it stuffed in a sock (socks are impressively good at preventing tubes from being cut by the rest of the stuff in the tool bag), 2 plastic tire irons (Vittorias and Paselas are easy and all brands work) and a patch kit. In my wallet - at least 4 dollar bills of any denomination or I stop for an espresso on the way out and paid in cash to break a 20 and get those bills. Dollar bills make very good boots. I've used 5 to get home with a near 1" slice. Ride 'em, launder 'em (don't tell the prosecutor), air dry and they are ready to spend as intended.
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Last one I had was at Jones Beach and went to the boardwalk to take a break.I got 10 feet on the wood and BANG... 2 people ran away thinking it was a gunshot .
Anyway as i'm changing the tube 3 people stopped and told me I was doing it wrong. 5 minutes later I rode past them on my way back to the MUP.
I spend more time making sure the tube is not under the bead than taking the tire off and putting it back on.
Anyway as i'm changing the tube 3 people stopped and told me I was doing it wrong. 5 minutes later I rode past them on my way back to the MUP.
I spend more time making sure the tube is not under the bead than taking the tire off and putting it back on.
Had a flat a while back & it was hot, humid, & very sunny. Was on the grass changing out the tube when some passerbyers going by said something like "Hey, you should path my tire!" I almost busted out laughing, but managed to keep that from happening & just looked up & waived. I was flattered.
That was a good flat.
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Some folks just like to flex the misery muscles rather than just keep on keeping-on there way.
Had a flat a while back & it was hot, humid, & very sunny. Was on the grass changing out the tube when some passerbyers going by said something like "Hey, you should path my tire!" I almost busted out laughing, but managed to keep that from happening & just looked up & waived. I was flattered.
That was a good flat.
Had a flat a while back & it was hot, humid, & very sunny. Was on the grass changing out the tube when some passerbyers going by said something like "Hey, you should path my tire!" I almost busted out laughing, but managed to keep that from happening & just looked up & waived. I was flattered.
That was a good flat.
There are good people out there.
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Sometimes it takes a little longer to change out the tubes, especially when you are in front of a French Bakery. When we are on long tours, we usually carry 2-3 spare tubes, and we each carry a patch kit. In some situations we will even carry a spare folding tire.
I've been carrying a frame pump under the top tube for the last 15 years.
Thinking about it, I guess I've been carrying a frame pump like that for about 50 years, circa 1970s
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The mini pump I carry gets to around 85 maybe. Good enough to keep going. But I did switch to carrying a spare as sometimes I had a hard time finding the leak. Spent more time pumping and looking (or licking and see if it bubbles btw, butyl rubber doesn't taste that good) than repairing.
If it's one flat a ride, I just take it as a chance to get a breather. Two on a ride is sucky though. The biggest thing I've learned with Rema, is make sure it's dry before you put the patch on or I guarantee it will be flat next morning.
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