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Old 10-07-20, 10:31 AM
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Welding Bike Frame - Books/Literature

Hi there!

I'm about to write my engineering thesis about "Development of the technological process of welding the aluminium bicycle frame".
I want to ask wheter you know any good literature about welding bike frames. I will appreciate both practical and scientific books/articles.

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The heat treating process after the welds are made is as much an integral part of the process as making the actual welds, as is the choice of the alloys and filler metal..
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check out the framebuilders forum

also try pm to member (but not recently too active) ftwelder he had done production work for many companies

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There are a few colleges that offer bike engineering classes. At one of the hand built shows one professor gave a seminar of his college's program, sorry but I forget who it was.

I'm not a college grad but fully suspect the kind of data you'll get from a person who does the welding and the kind of presentation your advisor is looking for could be rather different. I doubt there's much published data/articles specific to bike frame welding at the level your thesis statement suggests is your goal. There is likely a lot of practical and experience driven info though. Andy
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They don't offer a class in aluminum frame building but it wouldn't hurt to ask United Bicycle Institute: https://bikeschool.com/classes/frame-building
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Your search does not have such an easy answer as there are several issues at play and heat treating being but one. Another being selecting the best alloy for the job at hand and available means. The last one being the actual welding of relatively thin walled tubing. I'm not a welder myself but have worked with some very fine welders in the building of custom aluminum boats up to 65 feet or so. Some of those guys had worked at Electric Boat in Groton where 100% of welds are x-rayed. Those guys could weld a beer can to 1/4 inch plating, even after several beers. I suspect much of the info you are looking for may be proprietary but I would get in contact with the Aluminum Association. I know they have much free info much of it applicable to your project.
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The processes can be found in the AWS handbooks. The only thing about welding bike frames is being able to maintain the dimensions when the welds cool. Each alloy may or may not need heat treating after welding.
The most difficult to weld is Titanium because the weld and close heat effected zone must be shielded with inert gas until the weldment temp. drops below about 800 degrees F.
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