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I've really enjoyed all the sharing of information on the LHT's, and the photos. I did some touring in college (early-mid-70's) and loved it, soon life and family got in the way, but recently bought a bike and used it for exercise (lost 50 pounds so far). Now that I am about to retire after 40 years of teaching I have developed a new love for bike-touring. I bought a Giant Anyroad II from my nephew, who manages a bike shop in Alabama, early last fall. I love the bike around town and daily commuting but have decided to upgrade to something more designed for touring, like the LHT, this summer when I finally really retire. LBS only caters to triathletes so they were of no help, same with nephew's shop, but this forum has kind of led me to buying a Surly. I did find a shop about 80 miles from me that is a Surly dealer, and he personally has a LHT that he has ridden many many miles. He has none in his shop except his personal one, all he sells are custom ordered. At some point I really need to look at LHT vs. Disc Trucker, which seems like same bike with different brakes (?). Also need to consider size, every time I think I have that figured out I see new info to consider. Wish I could find a dealer with some different sizes in stock, maybe some road trips this summer will help me find a shop.
The info in this thread has been invaluable, look forward to learning much more before buying this summer. Right now my students are working hard on assignments but my mind is pedaling down the road by cruising topics on here . . .
The info in this thread has been invaluable, look forward to learning much more before buying this summer. Right now my students are working hard on assignments but my mind is pedaling down the road by cruising topics on here . . .
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Use the results from the 1st one (Eddy fit) and that will give you the frame size etc. If you are going to use the Surly LHT heavily loaded for touring, I have read that you need to choose one size smaller as it will handle better.
On that google group for surly LHT bikes, there is a thread where you can check who in your area has LHT bikes and you can arrange ride and a chat with the owners, or you can post a new thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/SurlyLHT
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2009 42cm frame. Mostly used for year round commuting and errand-running.
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LHT w/ Nitto Racks
I didn't like how the front fit so I fabricated some brackets to lower it and bring it rearward just a bit.
Here it is unloaded.
LHT w/Nitto Big Racks by Ted, on Flickr
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speaking of the Brooks B17, my saddle height is the same height as my handlebars. My LBS is trying to convince me to get a B17 narrow. I'm uncertain now, as I have read that if the handlebars are the same height as the seat, the normal B17 is the one to go for, and one must tilt the front of the saddle one or two degrees? The narrow version is best when the seat height is higher than the handlebars?
I heard that the narrow works better for lower bars as well. But I think saddles are really just a matter of personal preference. I would start with the normal B17 and see how it feels. If you buy from Wallingford he guarantees you'll be satisfied, or you can get your money back. I've bought saddles from him, but I've never had to exercise the guarantee, so I can make no comment on how accommodating he is if the saddle truly doesn't work for you.
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Yes, they're Nitto Big racks. New 32R on the rear. The front is an older model without the cross bracing in the corners.
I didn't like how the front fit so I fabricated some brackets to lower it and bring it rearward just a bit.
Here it is unloaded.
LHT w/Nitto Big Racks by Ted, on Flickr
I didn't like how the front fit so I fabricated some brackets to lower it and bring it rearward just a bit.
Here it is unloaded.
LHT w/Nitto Big Racks by Ted, on Flickr
Uh...Sweeeeeeeeet. Is that a battery operated light on the rear? If so, would you mine telling me the make and model? I have been looking for one to attach using the whole in the rear rack.
BTW....Di did I mention that looks sweeeeeeeet!?!?
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Thanks. It is a battery rear light, Busch & Muller 4DToplight Senso I got from SJS Cycles in the UK. It works fine (and I didn't want to run a wire all the way back from the dynamo) but it is sort of big and clunky. And it doesn't flash, it's just a solid light. Bush & Muller have a myriad of different models so I may look for something else that is a bit more elegant (although it is a LHT right?).
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Here's my LHT, found the bare naked frame in a roadside ditch. Have since added
40 year old French wheels, a 50 year old Brooks B-72, & a bunch of stuff from a box
in my carport. (why would anyone pay that kinda money for down tube shifters?)
The 26" Surlys look suspiciously like '60s Varsity frames.
40 year old French wheels, a 50 year old Brooks B-72, & a bunch of stuff from a box
in my carport. (why would anyone pay that kinda money for down tube shifters?)
The 26" Surlys look suspiciously like '60s Varsity frames.
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So here’s my heavily customized LHT affectionately called “The Mule.” Bet you can guess why.
She started life as a as a 2015 disc LHT 56cm / 700C. Well she's still a 56cm / 700C but not much else is the same.
Thing that connect me to her:
Salsa Cowbell 2 drop bars
Profile Design T1+ Aerobars
Redshift dual position seat post
Brooks B-17 saddle
Pieces that make her go/stop:
Schlumpf Cargo bottom bracket / cranks with 34/50 chain rings, for the lowest of low gearing 9 gear inches
Shimano Ultegra Di2 front/rear derailleurs
Shimano STI shifters on drop bars and TT Brifters on Aero bars
TRP HY-RD brakes running sintered pads with Yokozuna compressionless housings and upsized rotors rear 180 front 203
Shimano M8000 40-11T cassette running with a Goatlink "Road link" adapter
Wheels are Phil Woods touring 36 spoke with DT Swiss TH540 running Schwalbe Marathon Plus summer / Marathon Winter studded when icy.
Bits for carry lots of STUFF:
Surly Nice Racks front/rear
Ortlieb bike backer plus panniers front and rear
Arkel Tailrider trunk on the front rack.
Bob Yak Plus trailer with Greenspeed rack, kitty litter panniers and cat carrier. This was just the trial cat carrier I have the replacement but need to build a base so it will sit on the Bob. Hopefully new pictures to follow soon
Bits that take electrons:
Garmin Edge 1000 / Vaira radar (on seat post)
Kawell 18 watt off road vehicle led light bar under Tailrider
6 watt Red Strobe Tail light set to slow flash
GoPro Hero 4 facing forward
GoPro Hero 2 facing backwards (left hand side)
LoudBicycle Horn
Bit that feeds all those electron hungry bits:
So for all of the electronics I need a lot of power. Rather than having a dozen different chargers I ended up built my own central power center. Inside the Trailrider I build a frame that houses a 12.8V 20 amp hour LiFePo4 battery. I decided to go with the automotive voltage standard of 12 volt as being easier. I have a 5 port “car” usb adapter which the Garmin/GoPro are plugged into. The “vehicle” lights run off of this battery as well.
Right now that means when I get home I have a single connector to plug in to charge everything. When touring I have a solar charge controller and a 50watt solar panel that will help keep things charged with the option to parallel another panel for more power when parked. I’m considering putting a dynamo hub on the Bob for a secondary charging source but haven’t decided on which one just yet. That is a project that is still in the works.
Some are probably wondering why I need so much power. I’m going to end up replacing the “dumb” switch/relay power center with an Arduino, DIY microprocessor, “smart” controller. It will monitor power usage and power coming in through the solar panel. This will give me real time usage, capacity. It will also end up being what controls the lights on my bike, ie flashing patterns and alike.
The biggest driving force that got me going in this direction is this little guy.
Hi! My name's Kiwi and I'm spoiled ROTTEN!
He is my constant companion. Commutes with me every day and on all my other bicycle trips as well. Since I’m riding winter and summer his carrier
needs heating/cooling so that runs off of this battery as well. Right now I’m his manual thermostat but the Arduino will take over that job once I get it up and working.
As for the cats/trailer that my Wife’s fault and another long story.
Hope you enjoyed the pics
Gadgets
This is what pours out when you add equal portions of ADD, OCD and GEEK into a blender and puree.
She started life as a as a 2015 disc LHT 56cm / 700C. Well she's still a 56cm / 700C but not much else is the same.
Thing that connect me to her:
Salsa Cowbell 2 drop bars
Profile Design T1+ Aerobars
Redshift dual position seat post
Brooks B-17 saddle
Pieces that make her go/stop:
Schlumpf Cargo bottom bracket / cranks with 34/50 chain rings, for the lowest of low gearing 9 gear inches
Shimano Ultegra Di2 front/rear derailleurs
Shimano STI shifters on drop bars and TT Brifters on Aero bars
TRP HY-RD brakes running sintered pads with Yokozuna compressionless housings and upsized rotors rear 180 front 203
Shimano M8000 40-11T cassette running with a Goatlink "Road link" adapter
Wheels are Phil Woods touring 36 spoke with DT Swiss TH540 running Schwalbe Marathon Plus summer / Marathon Winter studded when icy.
Bits for carry lots of STUFF:
Surly Nice Racks front/rear
Ortlieb bike backer plus panniers front and rear
Arkel Tailrider trunk on the front rack.
Bob Yak Plus trailer with Greenspeed rack, kitty litter panniers and cat carrier. This was just the trial cat carrier I have the replacement but need to build a base so it will sit on the Bob. Hopefully new pictures to follow soon
Bits that take electrons:
Garmin Edge 1000 / Vaira radar (on seat post)
Kawell 18 watt off road vehicle led light bar under Tailrider
6 watt Red Strobe Tail light set to slow flash
GoPro Hero 4 facing forward
GoPro Hero 2 facing backwards (left hand side)
LoudBicycle Horn
Bit that feeds all those electron hungry bits:
So for all of the electronics I need a lot of power. Rather than having a dozen different chargers I ended up built my own central power center. Inside the Trailrider I build a frame that houses a 12.8V 20 amp hour LiFePo4 battery. I decided to go with the automotive voltage standard of 12 volt as being easier. I have a 5 port “car” usb adapter which the Garmin/GoPro are plugged into. The “vehicle” lights run off of this battery as well.
Right now that means when I get home I have a single connector to plug in to charge everything. When touring I have a solar charge controller and a 50watt solar panel that will help keep things charged with the option to parallel another panel for more power when parked. I’m considering putting a dynamo hub on the Bob for a secondary charging source but haven’t decided on which one just yet. That is a project that is still in the works.
Some are probably wondering why I need so much power. I’m going to end up replacing the “dumb” switch/relay power center with an Arduino, DIY microprocessor, “smart” controller. It will monitor power usage and power coming in through the solar panel. This will give me real time usage, capacity. It will also end up being what controls the lights on my bike, ie flashing patterns and alike.
The biggest driving force that got me going in this direction is this little guy.
Hi! My name's Kiwi and I'm spoiled ROTTEN!
He is my constant companion. Commutes with me every day and on all my other bicycle trips as well. Since I’m riding winter and summer his carrier
needs heating/cooling so that runs off of this battery as well. Right now I’m his manual thermostat but the Arduino will take over that job once I get it up and working.
As for the cats/trailer that my Wife’s fault and another long story.
Hope you enjoyed the pics
Gadgets
This is what pours out when you add equal portions of ADD, OCD and GEEK into a blender and puree.
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Wayne at:TheTouringStore.com, Ortlieb Panniers & Packs, Tubus Racks, Lone Peak Packs carries this light.
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I'm really enjoying my bike now and am the point where I don't really want to use it as a daily commuter as I want to keep it for a very long time and only use it on special occasions
I told my wife and she said: ' I knew it! I suppose that you want another bike now!'
I will use my other roadbike as my daily commuter (in the meantime until I upgrade) ... The LHT is a keeper
I will take the LHT for a nice long ride on the weekend
I told my wife and she said: ' I knew it! I suppose that you want another bike now!'
I will use my other roadbike as my daily commuter (in the meantime until I upgrade) ... The LHT is a keeper
I will take the LHT for a nice long ride on the weekend
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here is the report from my LBS on my LHT ....
After looking over your bicycle, there are a few things not right.
The rear wheel is out of true.
Loose bolts around handlebar and stem.
Front derailleur is to low, and touching chainring.
Also the left hand shifter loose and falling out of bars, and has ‘chewed' the cable, resulting in a bent cable, a new one will be needed.
All things considered. A service and inner gear cable would make your bike happy.
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It's all sorted now and luckily it only cost me £25 for the repairs. bear in mind that this is a brand new bike, so it pays to get it properly inspected by a 3rd party. The guy who serviced my bike is in my opinion the best bike mechanic in my area, and people from far away bring their Pinarello's, De Rosas etc to him for servicing. He also owns a LHT
I will be taking my LHT to him again in a month for it's first full service (this is the most important service when buying a new bike)
I won't complain or demand a £25 refund from the bike shop where I bought it from (it's only £25 and the guy was very pleasant and delivered on time)
After looking over your bicycle, there are a few things not right.
The rear wheel is out of true.
Loose bolts around handlebar and stem.
Front derailleur is to low, and touching chainring.
Also the left hand shifter loose and falling out of bars, and has ‘chewed' the cable, resulting in a bent cable, a new one will be needed.
All things considered. A service and inner gear cable would make your bike happy.
------------------------
It's all sorted now and luckily it only cost me £25 for the repairs. bear in mind that this is a brand new bike, so it pays to get it properly inspected by a 3rd party. The guy who serviced my bike is in my opinion the best bike mechanic in my area, and people from far away bring their Pinarello's, De Rosas etc to him for servicing. He also owns a LHT
I will be taking my LHT to him again in a month for it's first full service (this is the most important service when buying a new bike)
I won't complain or demand a £25 refund from the bike shop where I bought it from (it's only £25 and the guy was very pleasant and delivered on time)
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Hi Squeezebox,
Not ignoring you, just give me a bit to write it up. As I'm going to be busy for the next couple of days.
Gadgets
Not ignoring you, just give me a bit to write it up. As I'm going to be busy for the next couple of days.
Gadgets
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did my first proper ride yesterday and in total I cycled a total of 54 km (33 miles)
My 'cruising speed/average speed' on a relatively long stretch of 14.1 km (8.7 miles) and where there are only 4 stops with long stretches on relatively flat road and with very little wind was 26 km/hr (16 mph) ... a fair bit slower than my other road bike, but I'm very pleased.
It was a very smooth ride. I had several positive comments from other riders (these LHT's are not very often seen here in the UK)
I need to change the saddle though and will get the Brooks B17 Narrow on Friday
My 'cruising speed/average speed' on a relatively long stretch of 14.1 km (8.7 miles) and where there are only 4 stops with long stretches on relatively flat road and with very little wind was 26 km/hr (16 mph) ... a fair bit slower than my other road bike, but I'm very pleased.
It was a very smooth ride. I had several positive comments from other riders (these LHT's are not very often seen here in the UK)
I need to change the saddle though and will get the Brooks B17 Narrow on Friday
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I would imagine that the cat would think you are torturing it, putting it in there and then going on a bumpy ride?
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Gilles Berthoud is very good and has more water resistance, but I will get the brooks seat cover and try to avoid rain