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Why is road cycling so political and middle class?

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Old 04-26-17, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
Or late one. I was up 4:00AM working a bit, got driving by 6:00 and in my 4th state right now, one more to go and reports are I have to kill an hour or so.
Collegiate Nationals.
Oh cool, they're in CO this year. Was fun to have them in Richmond 3 years ago. I was in grad school so I was racing collegiate at the time, but nowhere near qualifying.

Teammate won the D1 ITT, though

Good luck to your kiddo!
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Old 04-26-17, 04:52 PM
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I dont see the problem. I am by far a better cyclist than anyone out there. My bike is way hotter than anyone elses. And my kit is maximum coolness. Everyone else cycling is failing big time. In fact most cyclists I encounter are fake cyclists.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Oh look ... the first "they didn't wave at me" thread of the season!!

The imagination is an amazing thing.

Focus on your own ride ... stop imagining what people are thinking of you. Most of the time no one sees you ... no one notices you ... no one is paying any attention to you at all ... no one cares.
I don't think it is the first post of the season on this fascinating subject. I was recently called a snob and chided for not waving.

Your advice, however, is good, especially the part about "no one cares." Go ride, do your thing, and enjoy the ride.

BTW, I am certain that most, if not, all of these stories should be filed under "fake news."
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I only wave or nod if you do first.. that's how I roll... pun intended.
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You all realise, don't you, that this thread is 3 years old.
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Originally Posted by Machka
You all realise, don't you, that this thread is 3 years old.
Yes, Zombie Threads are the best.
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Originally Posted by Machka
You all realise, don't you, that this thread is 3 years old.
but the argument is timeless
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Old 04-26-17, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
Oh cool, they're in CO this year. Was fun to have them in Richmond 3 years ago. I was in grad school so I was racing collegiate at the time, but nowhere near qualifying.

Teammate won the D1 ITT, though

Good luck to your kiddo!
Thanks, made it.
Kiddo should have a good time. He is not doing the ITT, rather TTT. We don't expect much, but I think the TTT is a great collegiate event.
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Originally Posted by jon c.
but the argument is timeless

Yep ... every spring like clockwork.
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Old 04-26-17, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Adonis72
I only wave or nod if you do first.. that's how I roll... pun intended.
On the motorcycle in some places you stick the leg out.
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Old 04-26-17, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Doge
On the motorcycle in some places you stick the leg out.
Dogs do that too.
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Old 04-27-17, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Doge
On the motorcycle in some places you stick the leg out.
Mostly on the track when you're pulling off. Never seen it on the street. Maybe it's a regional thing.
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Old 04-27-17, 06:58 AM
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Yeah, the leg out is a track thing (did Rossi start this? I think it might come out of dirt riding). Don't think it's regional because I've never seen anybody "wave" that way on the street anywhere.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
Mostly on the track when you're pulling off. Never seen it on the street. Maybe it's a regional thing.
Paris commuters. It was near 100% going the other direction on a 2 lane.
I saw this in the countryside too, mostly France. I was on a BMW R - definitely not a track bike.

Didn't see it on the Motorways or Autobahn
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Originally Posted by Doge
Paris commuters. It was near 100% going the other direction on a 2 lane.
I saw this in the country too, mostly France.

Didn't see it on the Motorways or Autobahn

Oh, in France. Why didn't you say so? You know, they eat snails there.
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Old 04-27-17, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Scarbo
... Why didn't you say so? ...
I find if I write big long detailed posts, I often confuse more than clarify. So giving tidbits and filling in the if people care (like where this happened) keeps a rather inane titled thread alive.
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Originally Posted by Doge
I think the TTT is a great collegiate event.
It is cool. IIRC, Marian University was pretty dominant back when I was racing. Haven't kept up on it lately.

Collegiate is funny... the guy who won the D1 road race in '14 was a 31 year old med student and a former pro. Gotta love it when the NCAA isn't involved.
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Originally Posted by Doge
I find if I write big long detailed posts, I often confuse more than clarify. So giving tidbits and filling in the if people care (like where this happened) keeps a rather inane titled thread alive.
I get you now.

In any case I think that leg waving is a bourgeois--and, by extension, middle class--thing to do, don't you? But, maybe not in France, in which case it would be somewhat more proletarian.
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I thought motorcyclists in this country do the "low hand" acknowledgement? Would the leg thing be considered rude by a Harley rider?

Inquiring minds who will never ride a motorcycle want to know.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
It is cool. IIRC, Marian University was pretty dominant back when I was racing. Haven't kept up on it lately.

Collegiate is funny... the guy who won the D1 road race in '14 was a 31 year old med student and a former pro. Gotta love it when the NCAA isn't involved.
My Alma mater has a good cycling program.

MSU Cycling Team - About Us

Don't let the pictures of the campus fool you. That area can be a bleak, desolate place to live/exist. If you are a cycling nut maybe you should do the HH100 one time. I know you have some BF buddies in the North Texas area. Go down and do that ride. It will give you a greater appreciation for the scenery/terrain/weather you have in VA.

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
I thought motorcyclists in this country do the "low hand" acknowledgement? Would the leg thing be considered rude by a Harley rider?

Inquiring minds who will never ride a motorcycle want to know.
Yeah--generally, the low-hand thing. I ride a sport bike so getting a response from any Harley rider is a hit or miss--usually miss-thing. I don't know what would happen if I extended my leg out toward on oncoming Harley rider and I really don't want to find out, either.
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This is a zombie waving thread. You've unleashed the hounds of hell on this forum by resurrecting it.

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
It is cool. IIRC, Marian University was pretty dominant back when I was racing. Haven't kept up on it lately.

Collegiate is funny... the guy who won the D1 road race in '14 was a 31 year old med student and a former pro. Gotta love it when the NCAA isn't involved.
As for when the NCAA not being involved, check out the basic requirements for eligibility onto the team. What a great way to get started!

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
It is cool. IIRC, Marian University was pretty dominant back when I was racing. Haven't kept up on it lately.

Collegiate is funny... the guy who won the D1 road race in '14 was a 31 year old med student and a former pro. Gotta love it when the NCAA isn't involved.
It is "funny". I think you know it was discussed a lot here: https://www.bikeforums.net/33-road-bi...pro-racer.html

My last post in that thread is telling. On the same course, same distance the top 16 for the Pro, 1, 2 race finished 3 min apart, while the collegiate As finished 22 min apart.

I started that thread after my realization that *some* collegiate setups are better than some pro-licensed rider setups. There is overlap where best collegiate riders, get more compensation (school, board, room, transportation, all race equipment and fees and allowance), than the paying to play USAC pro teams. And they are as good.
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Originally Posted by Doge
It is "funny". I think you know it was discussed a lot here: https://www.bikeforums.net/33-road-bi...pro-racer.html

My last post in that thread is telling. On the same course, same distance the top 16 for the Pro, 1, 2 race finished 3 min apart, while the collegiate As finished 22 min apart.

I started that thread after my realization that *some* collegiate setups are better than some pro-licensed rider setups. There is overlap where best collegiate riders, get more compensation (school, board, room, transportation, all race equipment and fees and allowance), than the paying to play USAC pro teams. And they are as good.
My tri buddy says that Liberty University tri team is extremely well funded. It might be the same for their cycling team. Dan333 might know someone that knows more.

https://www.liberty.edu/campusrec/cl...5959&TeamID=24

If you are looking at colleges for your son and can endure the Baptist way of life, it might be a place to look at. Falwell U is rolling in the dough. Beautiful campus, beautiful area and a great place to ride bikes.
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