Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Ride it or replace it?...Vittoria Corsa

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Ride it or replace it?...Vittoria Corsa

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-03-20, 11:18 PM
  #1  
malcala622
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,182

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1199 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 716 Posts
Ride it or replace it?...Vittoria Corsa

I purchased a pair of Vittoria Corsa tires last month and noticed one tire has this cut/puncture. Will it hold while riding or simply burst open?. The slice doesnt go all the way thru the tire just on the top surface. What say thee?

malcala622 is offline  
Old 04-03-20, 11:49 PM
  #2  
canklecat
Me duelen las nalgas
 
canklecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,513

Bikes: Centurion Ironman, Trek 5900, Univega Via Carisma, Globe Carmel

Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4559 Post(s)
Liked 2,802 Times in 1,800 Posts
I've ridden worse than that. Had a set of Schwalbe One V-Guards that were nicked and cut in several places, down to the puncture guard in one place. I booted the worst cuts with a paper-thin Lezyne self-sticking tube patch and kept riding. I checked it before and after every ride to be sure it wasn't creating an avulsion. I finally retired it after a friend gave it the stink-eye during a ride and offered to give me another tire. So I replaced 'em with Continental Ultra Sport II, pretty good cheap tires.

Lezyne self-sticking patch kits also include a more serious tire boot, the card on which the instructions are printed. Great little patch kits, smaller than a credit card and not much thicker.

I still occasionally carry those Schwalbes as spares, strapped to my saddle bag on longer rides. They're still good enough for an emergency tire, and very lightweight.

With your tire I'd check it before, during and after the next few rides to see if the cut/split lengthens along the sipes. If it doesn't worsen the first ride or two it'll probably hold up awhile longer. But I'd boot it as I described with a tube patch.
canklecat is offline  
Old 04-03-20, 11:49 PM
  #3  
base2 
I am potato.
 
base2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 3,108

Bikes: Only precision built, custom high performance elitist machines of the highest caliber. 🍆

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1784 Post(s)
Liked 1,622 Times in 928 Posts
If the cords aren't cut, I say go for it.
The rubber in the tread isn't what gives the tire strength.
__________________
I shouldn't have to "make myself more visible;" Drivers should just stop running people over.

Car dependency is a tax.
base2 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 03:04 AM
  #4  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma

Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,749 Times in 937 Posts
That tire is shot, in my opinion. And will it blow? You bet it will, just as this old rubber hoop did on a PX10 one day. It blew with a bang and wobble. Glad it was on the rear or I might have ended up laying the bike down...
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
randyjawa is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 05:33 AM
  #5  
SJX426 
Senior Member
 
SJX426's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579

Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8

Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,214 Times in 1,103 Posts
I would clean it really well and fill with rubber cement and ride it. I have ridden worse. Randy's example is of a tire that has been around for a looooooong time where the cotton was breaking down. Those tires, ride I would not. Note the checking of the rubber on Randy's example. The tire is failing at the tread level. Although the tread is not considered a significant structural member, it does contribute to the tires ability to flex, protect and incase the casing.
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
SJX426 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 05:53 AM
  #6  
Bianchigirll 
Bianchi Goddess
 
Bianchigirll's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Shady Pines Retirement Fort Wayne, In
Posts: 27,846

Bikes: Too many to list here check my signature.

Mentioned: 192 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2926 Post(s)
Liked 2,921 Times in 1,489 Posts
Is that a tubular? If so may as well ride it until it blows.

If it is a clincher a small piece of cardboard, like from a tube box, between the tire and tube might keep you from getting a flat until you get your moneys worth out of it.
__________________
One morning you wake up, the girl is gone, the bikes are gone, all that's left behind is a pair of old tires and a tube of tubular glue, all squeezed out"

Sugar "Kane" Kowalczyk
Bianchigirll is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 06:13 AM
  #7  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma

Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,749 Times in 937 Posts
Randy's example is of a tire that has been around for a looooooong time where the cotton was breaking down.
That is true as true can be, However, my point is why take the chance? I knew the tires, on this PX10 to be really old, and in very poor condition. With that in mind, I took it out for a slow test ride, after straightening the frame and fork. What did I learn? Why take the chance with old, or worn, or damaged tires? Too many people depend on me, me included.
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
randyjawa is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 06:16 AM
  #8  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,433

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
I wouldn't take a chance on it. If it blows, it will blow at the worst possible time . . .

Plus with the coronavirus, do you even want to take a small chance that you might need to visit an emergency room right now? Those folks are overworked and stressed, and they don't need your business.
bikemig is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 06:41 AM
  #9  
alo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,060
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 529 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 255 Times in 185 Posts
Replace it. It will blow. It is a lot easier to replace it now, than to have it blow when you are a long way from home.
alo is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 07:00 AM
  #10  
Classtime 
Senior Member
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,697

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1946 Post(s)
Liked 2,004 Times in 1,105 Posts
Is it a tubular? And is that sealant or other repair attempt? If it's only the rubber, ride it.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Classtime is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 07:02 AM
  #11  
plonz 
Senior Member
 
plonz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Western MI
Posts: 2,767
Mentioned: 45 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 655 Post(s)
Liked 467 Times in 301 Posts
On a pokey errand runner, I’d mount it on the rear and go with it. On a bike I’m hammering in a group or bombing down a hill, it’s not worth the risk IMO.
plonz is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 07:20 AM
  #12  
grizzly59
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 712
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 283 Post(s)
Liked 262 Times in 164 Posts
Originally Posted by base2
If the cords aren't cut, I say go for it.
The rubber in the tread isn't what gives the tire strength.
Clean it out and look. If the cords aren't cut I rub some ShoeGoo in there and give it a go. If it's an old tire throw it out, but a month old then everything else (casing, sidewalls, bead) is good. You could cut a piece of Tyvek envelope and boot it under your scrape if you are a belt and suspenders person.

Last edited by grizzly59; 04-04-20 at 07:26 AM.
grizzly59 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 07:37 AM
  #13  
malcala622
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,182

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1199 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 716 Posts
The tires are clinchers and when I inspected them this small area seamed like a patch of gum when it was deflated. Only when I mounted and aired it was when I noticed this.

Seems as though a repair was attempted so I'll have to clean it up and see really how deep the damage goes.

For $45 I'm hoping I can get some good use out of them
malcala622 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 07:50 AM
  #14  
xiaoman1 
Senior Member
 
xiaoman1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 4,870

Bikes: A few too many

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 2,178 Times in 1,182 Posts
Miguel, Knowing the way you pound, I would pass on it...saving the 45 may cost you more in medical...Not worth it in my opinion, Hard Pass.
Best, Ben
xiaoman1 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 08:13 AM
  #15  
Narhay
Senior Member
 
Narhay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,696
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 956 Post(s)
Liked 568 Times in 314 Posts
The only part of your bike that connects you to the ground are your tires. I know it is hard to scrap a few bucks in a bad deal but don't chance it.
Narhay is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 08:33 AM
  #16  
jeirvine 
Senior Member
 
jeirvine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Baltimore MD
Posts: 3,331

Bikes: '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Gitane tandem, '72 Raleigh Super Course, '73 Raleigh Gran Sport, '73 Colnago Super, '76 Fiorelli Coppi, '78 Raleigh SBDU Team Pro, '78 Trek 930, '81 Holdsworth Special 650B, '86 Masi GC, ’94 Bridgestone RB-T

Mentioned: 67 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 786 Post(s)
Liked 517 Times in 280 Posts
What size is it? I have a spare Corsa 25.
__________________
The man who dies with the most toys…is dead. - Rootboy
jeirvine is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 08:36 AM
  #17  
malcala622
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,182

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1199 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 716 Posts
Originally Posted by jeirvine
what size is it? I have a spare corsa 25.
23
malcala622 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 08:46 AM
  #18  
randyjawa 
Senior Member
 
randyjawa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674

Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma

Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,749 Times in 937 Posts
For the longest time, I ran 25s on the rear wheel and 23s on the front. Made sense to me, in those days.
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
randyjawa is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:14 AM
  #19  
easyupbug 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,675

Bikes: too many sparkly Italians, some sweet Americans and a couple interesting Japanese

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 567 Post(s)
Liked 563 Times in 405 Posts
The likelihood of failure is too high for me (at my age going down can be serious), if you are going to ride it I am sure you will put it in the back which will help with the consequence of a blow out unless you are bombing down an incline or curve. Obviously only you can decide if the $ is worth the risk.
easyupbug is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:17 AM
  #20  
easyupbug 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,675

Bikes: too many sparkly Italians, some sweet Americans and a couple interesting Japanese

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 567 Post(s)
Liked 563 Times in 405 Posts
Originally Posted by randyjawa
For the longest time, I ran 25s on the rear wheel and 23s on the front. Made sense to me, in those days.
I still do on old Tommasini Air forks that don't like 25s.
easyupbug is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:17 AM
  #21  
thinktubes 
weapons-grade bolognium
 
thinktubes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Across the street from Chicago
Posts: 6,344

Bikes: Battaglin Cromor, Ciocc Designer 84, Schwinn Superior 1981

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 985 Post(s)
Liked 2,376 Times in 891 Posts
Use it as a "trainer" tire.
thinktubes is online now  
Old 04-04-20, 09:32 AM
  #22  
jadocs
Senior Member
 
jadocs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 2,190

Bikes: Ti, Mn Cr Ni Mo Nb, Al, C

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 942 Post(s)
Liked 526 Times in 349 Posts
Originally Posted by malcala622

Seems as though a repair was attempted so I'll have to clean it up and see really how deep the damage goes.

For $45 I'm hoping I can get some good use out of them
You bought them used?
jadocs is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:46 AM
  #23  
Classtime 
Senior Member
 
Classtime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,697

Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1946 Post(s)
Liked 2,004 Times in 1,105 Posts
If on the inside of the tire, you see no damage, put a boot there for peace of mind, and ride it on the rear. Curious what caused it. Looks melted or dissolved by some chemical.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Classtime is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:47 AM
  #24  
malcala622
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,182

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1199 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 716 Posts
Originally Posted by jadocs
You bought them used?
They had been used for about 100 miles as the seller claimed. I believed him since out of the box they were clean. I wouldn't put this on the seller since i inspected them.


malcala622 is offline  
Old 04-04-20, 09:55 AM
  #25  
malcala622
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 4,182

Bikes: 1983 Basso Gap...2013 Colnago CX-1...2015 Bianchi Intenso

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1199 Post(s)
Liked 1,354 Times in 716 Posts
Wouldnt it be safer to use it on the front wheel? Less weight at the front.
malcala622 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.