R&R Internally Routed Cable Housing
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R&R Internally Routed Cable Housing
UPDATE: 03-14-19
I bit the bullet today and got it done successfully. After I got rid of the jitters it took alI of about 2 minutes. Thanks for all your tips and encouragement. It should be good for another 35 years (that'll make me 100. Maybe I'll make it--who knows?)
Jon
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I have an '84 Peugeot PH 10 LE that I bought new. I want to R&R the brake cable housings. The front is a typical text-book case. The rear, however is giving me a problem. It is factory routed thru the TT. It doesn't want to budge. Any one got a trick up their sleeve? I know about leaving the old cable in place as a guide for the new housing. I don't think rust is an issue--the bike has never seen rain and it's been garaged since day one. I also don't want to let a gorilla loose on the housing. It is lined and in good shape so don't want to destroy it. I just want to replace it because it's old and showing its age in a couple of small places.
Thanks to all.
Jon
I bit the bullet today and got it done successfully. After I got rid of the jitters it took alI of about 2 minutes. Thanks for all your tips and encouragement. It should be good for another 35 years (that'll make me 100. Maybe I'll make it--who knows?)
Jon
Here's the OP:
I have an '84 Peugeot PH 10 LE that I bought new. I want to R&R the brake cable housings. The front is a typical text-book case. The rear, however is giving me a problem. It is factory routed thru the TT. It doesn't want to budge. Any one got a trick up their sleeve? I know about leaving the old cable in place as a guide for the new housing. I don't think rust is an issue--the bike has never seen rain and it's been garaged since day one. I also don't want to let a gorilla loose on the housing. It is lined and in good shape so don't want to destroy it. I just want to replace it because it's old and showing its age in a couple of small places.
Thanks to all.
Jon
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It's not uncommon for the internal routed housings to be cut ot snagged by the edges of the ports they enter/exit. The plastic coating on the housing can get buggered up and cause a hang up on the ports' edges. I suppose it's possible that the housing has had a spot of glue applied in the top tube (to quite housing slap over bumps) but that's not a factory thing. Might be best to leave well enough alone. But if you do pull the housing I suggest making sure that the ports are burr free. And this might also be the time to apply a rust preventative inside the tube. Andy
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If you really want new housing you could just route a new piece the old way, along the outside of the frame. They still make the little chrome-plated clips.
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If the old liner is removable and you have new liner, sure do it. However, most lined housing I'm familiar with has the liner "fused" to the interior and it's not removable.
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If you can get the inner cable out, you can just reef on the housing so hard it deforms into a stretched shape, which should detach it.
OTOH, if that doesn't detach it, you're screwed.
OTOH, if that doesn't detach it, you're screwed.
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Thanks guys. As of today, nothing has been done. I've been off since the 21st and don't go back to work 'til the 2nd. I had intended on getting it out one way or another but family, and life said otherwise. So here I sit dumbfounded and befuddled. Any way, I'll eventually get something done and keep you all in the loop. Thanks again for all the input.
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I rebuilt one of these recently. This model positions the rear cable near the bottom of the top tube on the drive side. I had no problem with mine, thank god. If I were the OP, I would stop at nothing to get it out. It must come out. It must.
The main problem I had with my bike was with the helicomatic rear hub, as it's almost impossible to find a freewheel (or whatever Maillard calls it) for this hub. It's easier just to rebuild the rear wheel with a regular freewheel hub.
The main problem I had with my bike was with the helicomatic rear hub, as it's almost impossible to find a freewheel (or whatever Maillard calls it) for this hub. It's easier just to rebuild the rear wheel with a regular freewheel hub.
Jon