Rear Free Wheel with Quick Release Safe?
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That is insane. A '94 Trek 800 is a mtb with freaking vertical dropouts and QR have been on widespread use for literally decades.
If they weren't just trying to justify selling you a cheap wheel, then the only explanation I can think of is that in the LBS world it is shockingly common for the owner to be a cranky old retrogrouch with some bizarre and objectively incorrect opinions that are based on absolutely nothing.
Oddly enough a lot of LBS are going out of business...
If they weren't just trying to justify selling you a cheap wheel, then the only explanation I can think of is that in the LBS world it is shockingly common for the owner to be a cranky old retrogrouch with some bizarre and objectively incorrect opinions that are based on absolutely nothing.
Oddly enough a lot of LBS are going out of business...
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IMO, sounds like they are trying to sell you a more expensive bike. I have been road biking for 45+ years. All of it with quick release skewers. Never had a problem not due to my not tightening the skewer enough. Look at some video to get the correct way to use the QRs.
The only downside of old QR freewheel hubs is you could bend an axle on cheaper hubs due to the narrower distance between bearing races compared to a freehub/cassette setup, especially as the freewheels got a bit wider. That could be cured with a higher quality axle. After a number of bent axles on my first Peugeot, the shop I bought it from put the axle and cones from a damaged Campy NR hub into the rear Normandy hub. Never bent again, and I still used the original Normandy QR skewer. (Still have that bike also) Proper QRs with internal cams put a much greater clamping force on the dropout even if horizontal, and if properly adjusted AND fully closed, do NOT move.
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And an improvement on my Campag axles on the hubs I had, was Wheels Inc.
The heat treatment on mine from <C> may have been a little brittle-hard,
the Wheels control of the heat treatment process, a bit more fit for purpose..
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The heat treatment on mine from <C> may have been a little brittle-hard,
the Wheels control of the heat treatment process, a bit more fit for purpose..
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Typical of a bike shop employee who doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. I rode the same quality road bike (Motobecane Le Champion) for 30+ years and can never remember having either wheel come loose and that was in the days before they began to add "lawyers lips" to the fork ends to keep the wheel on in case the rider did not correctly tighten the QR.
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Re. A QR axle being 'weaker' than a nutted axle: not really. Most of the strength is at the outer surface of the axle, and added material makes less and less difference as you get closer to the centre, and the QR skewer itself makes up for the material missing from the middle.
Sounds like the bike shop guy only had a wheel with nutted axle to sell and made up a reason.
Sounds like the bike shop guy only had a wheel with nutted axle to sell and made up a reason.