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Most Popular Saddle for Track?

Old 04-30-19, 07:22 PM
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Most Popular Saddle for Track?

I'm starting to realize that a short nose saddle might not be best for me on the track. I'm curious to know what saddles are most commonly seen at your local track?
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Old 04-30-19, 08:18 PM
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It's highly personal. For me, the Selle Italia Flite was my go to, or saddles with a similar shape. Steel rails for durability when it comes to G forces in the banks. Most people go with something similar to what's on their road bike, but having a nose is essential to being able to properly maneuver a bike with your hips for mass start racing.
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I agree that it's personal and average to heavy riders need steel rails. I've seen average riders who are fast (pull more G forces) break saddles and rails. The saddle break by developing cracks in the middle and sag more than they are designed to.

An old teammate of mine loved one particular Specialized saddle. The saddle would crack in the middle after a day or two of riding on the track. The shop that sponsored us was a Specialized dealer so he got a new saddle over the counter no questions asked each time, but it was still a pain in the butt (pun intended).

Saddles and seatposts are very important. They are the foundation of everything. As one owner of a tri shop that handled the most expensive bikes for his tri customers put it, "Trackies are 'The Princess and the Pea' when it comes to their bike fits."
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It depends on a lot of things. In the winter I'm on a 166m track, and the G-forces there are extreme. Stuff breaks - mostly seats, spokes, maybe seat posts, clamps. First time I road the thing my legs were fine, but my neck was a wreck from trying to hold my head up. My butt wasn't much better. For training I switched over to an old seat just because it has gel padding. I even seem some bikes with brooks leather.
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Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
having a nose is essential to being able to properly maneuver a bike with your hips for mass start racing.
Could you please elaborate on the role of the nose and hips? Is that hip stability issue? Do cyclists have weak hips? Any research papers?
Would you please share your opinion on ISM saddles? I've seen lots of them in mass races. Also Nater used one in sprints at SixDay events. Obviously they're great for pursuit and time trialing.
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Old 05-15-19, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by pi03k View Post
Could you please elaborate on the role of the nose and hips? Is that hip stability issue? Do cyclists have weak hips? Any research papers?
It's not an issue of weakness, or adding stability. The hips are free to move on a bicycle because the only "fixed" point is where the wheels are in contact with the ground. If a cyclist has weak hip function, no seat will help them, they need to improve their overall body strength.

The point I was getting at is that you can use your hips/ thighs to control your bike through the nose of the saddle. It's the same way that you would control a bike when riding no-hands, by moving your hips to either keep the bike balanced beneath you, or to move it to steer.

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Would you please share your opinion on ISM saddles? I've seen lots of them in mass races. Also Nater used one in sprints at SixDay events. Obviously they're great for pursuit and time trialing.
The use of a short nose saddle would be highly personal (just like any saddle). What works for one may not work for another. If you are a person who tends to set their saddle up so that you are sitting more towards the rear, then short nose saddles will provide enough of a nose so that you can push the seat around with your thighs to help control the bike. If you are a person who tends to sit more towards the middle, or moves around on the saddle a lot, then you may not have enough nose to control the bike like you are used to with a longer saddle. On the end it depends on riding style and of it can work for you.
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Old 06-10-19, 10:58 AM
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I was just a the Festival of Speed at TTown this past weekend. Most of the sprinters I saw their were using some variation of the ProLogo Scratch Saddle. Eddie Dawkins was using the Prologo Scratch Pro TI Solid Saddle, I believe the rest of the New Zealand team was also using the same exact model too.
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I'm not saying that's the case here, but keep in mind that often the higher end folks are using whatever they get paid to use or whatever they get for free, not necessarily whatever is their absolute first choice.
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Showing my age --- but still use either the old Turbo or a Concor -- steel rail

They are narrow and strong
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Using Prologo Zero Pas on track due its "flat" top profile - perfect to usual position change we need on the track - to push from low rpm to spin on top speed.
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