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Old 07-13-20, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Velo Vol should look into tiny mouse living.
I've had mixed results with mouse medicine--that is, inflammation is better, but not great. Going to try six-week cycle rather than eight and see what happens. Otherwise, may move to one of the dwindling remaining drugs.

Other highlights: three pounds lighter than last weigh-in

I do not think I sufficiently pre-hydrated for a blood test because it took her a long time to get sufficient blood. Oops.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Same. Plus, every time I am off the bike more than 3 or 4 days I am askeered what little fitness I have is melting away!
Two days is generally my limit. More than that, I better be enjoying vacation somewhere far away or on my sick bed.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
She went up and down 168 times over the course of 23 hours 10 minutes.
Epic. Where's the Strava?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Long-suffering spouse, however, threw up a couple of times last night
What does she suffer from?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Same. Plus, every time I am off the bike more than 3 or 4 days I am askeered what little fitness I have is melting away!
If you really want to feel bad, use a tracking app like Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah, or Intervals.


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Originally Posted by big john
Does it happen when you are off the saddle?
No idea, I'll check tonight. I "never" ride off the saddle except when at railroad tracks, excessive road debris or at certain bridges that don't mate with the road well.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
What does she suffer from?
Me, inter alia.

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Originally Posted by SwtBadger
No idea, I'll check tonight. I "never" ride off the saddle except when at railroad tracks, excessive road debris or at certain bridges that don't mate with the road well.
Do you have a saddle bag with clanky **** in it?
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Originally Posted by abshipp
Hey WhyFi are there any places up around your neck of the woods that would be good for a weekend AirBNB/VRBO getaway?

Probably wouldn't want to go all the way up to the Twin Cities but maybe the Lacrosse/Eau Claire area.
Lacrosse is a cute little town. We spent an extended weekend there last year, really liked it and decided that we'd have to go back again. That said, a big part of what I liked was the mix of shops and restaurants/bars, and I don't know how much that mojo has changed in current conditions.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Epic. Where's the Strava?
Her account is private but she's listed on the Hells 500 page (the official Everesting site). There's also an article in (I think) the Star Tribune, but it's either behind a paywall or I've exceeded my view quota. Her name is Alix Magner, if you want to look it up.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
If you really want to feel bad, use a tracking app like Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah, or Intervals.


If you REALLY want to go down a rabbit hole, get a WHOOP device. It tracks HRV (heart rate variability). My cardiology EP friends tell me this is no way ready for prime time, btw.
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[QUOTE=abshipp;21584961]Hey WhyFi are there any places up around your neck of the woods that would be good for a weekend AirBNB/VRBO getaway?

Probably wouldn't want to go all the way up to the Twin Cities but maybe the Lacrosse/Eau Claire area.[/QUOTE

Don't do Lacrosse, it has rained 4 out of the 5 times I've gone there . Of course YMMV and likely will.

The Elroy Sparta trail is a great ride. With the 3 tunnels remember to bring a flash light. I am pretty sure its unpaved as are the other rails to trails bike trails in the area. I've never road biked in the area, but I'm guessing with the bluffs, Mississippi, and general wooded wilderness could likely put together a good ride or two. Wisconsin puts out a bike guide and there may be some suggestions for road bike routes in there.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Me, inter alia.
I suffer from me, too.
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Originally Posted by datlas
If you REALLY want to go down a rabbit hole, get a WHOOP device. It tracks HRV (heart rate variability). My cardiology EP friends tell me this is no way ready for prime time, btw.
From what I hear, no optical device can give really accurate R-R intervals. I use an old Polar chest strap for HRV and an optical device on the bike. The processing side of WHOOP sounds to me like expensive voodoo.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I've had mixed results with mouse medicine--that is, inflammation is better, but not great. Going to try six-week cycle rather than eight and see what happens. Otherwise, may move to one of the dwindling remaining drugs.

Other highlights: three pounds lighter than last weigh-in

I do not think I sufficiently pre-hydrated for a blood test because it took her a long time to get sufficient blood. Oops.
Yep, gotta guzzle that water to help with blood draws.

I participated in a drug trial in my youth and the phlebotomists would scold guys for not drinking enough water. I'm not sure how they wouldn't drink enough, all there was to do was drink water, read bad books and watch bad TV. Maybe they napped too much.

That's one business sector I hadn't thought about being affected by the Rona. They had us crammed in there. 6 bunks in approx 12x12' rooms. Not very save for virus times.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
From what I hear, no optical device can give really accurate R-R intervals. I use an old Polar chest strap for HRV and an optical device on the bike. The processing side of WHOOP sounds to me like expensive voodoo.
Correct, and even if someone is using a chest monitor the value of HRV is still largely unproven.

That won't stop WHOOP from making plenty-o-dough, however.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Her account is private but she's listed on the Hells 500 page (the official Everesting site). There's also an article in (I think) the Star Tribune, but it's either behind a paywall or I've exceeded my view quota. Her name is Alix Magner, if you want to look it up.
Must have been an earlier year because she doesn't even have 1000 miles in 2020 on Strava.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Yep, gotta guzzle that water to help with blood draws.
I didn't drink this morning because the mouse drug comes with IV fluid, anyway. And I don't want to have to go to the bathroom while hooked up.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Must have been an earlier year because she doesn't even have 1000 miles in 2020 on Strava.
July, last year.
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I am waiting for the Assiomas to become available again.
They are. I just read that at Clever Training.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Correct, and even if someone is using a chest monitor the value of HRV is still largely unproven.

That won't stop WHOOP from making plenty-o-dough, however.
I think there's an okay literature on the response of single HRV measurements to training stress within individuals, I mean by exercise science standards.
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They are. I just read that at Clever Training.
Whatever they had is gone as of today.
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Originally Posted by SwtBadger
No idea, I'll check tonight. I "never" ride off the saddle except when at railroad tracks, excessive road debris or at certain bridges that don't mate with the road well.
Noises are hard to locate if you can't repeat them in the shop. It's worse when they are intermittent on the road. Lots of click/pop noises come from the seat and post. I also had a click I couldn't find so in desperation I took the bottom bracket apart and lubed it and that fixed it.
Take the wheels out of the frame and put a little lube where things interface. Lean on the saddle with both hands and try to twist it around. Turn the bike upside down and lean into the pedals and twist/torque things around. Check the chainring bolts. Lean/twist the handle bars and stem.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Whatever they had is gone as of today.
Well crap! I read that last night.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Well crap! I read that last night.
Yeah, plenty of pent up demand for those units.

Birthday is in August. Also have to weigh against boat stuff, which is always saying, "buy me."
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