Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Why is Rapha so divisive?

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Why is Rapha so divisive?

Old 08-03-20, 05:10 PM
  #276  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18883 Post(s)
Liked 10,646 Times in 6,054 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
It's interesting that we as a society are in a place where we are so afraid of eating disorders that anything that hints in that direction is radioactive, but far more than a hint in the direction of obesity is A-OK.
I think it's weird anybody would worry that fat people will stop eating iced cream because of something they read on a water bottle.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Likes For Seattle Forrest:
Old 08-03-20, 05:11 PM
  #277  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18883 Post(s)
Liked 10,646 Times in 6,054 Posts
Originally Posted by ooga-booga
going back to the concession stand to replenish the xl coke and large popcorn tub...
You'll get fat and not win any races, didn't you see the water bottle? Have some broccoli instead.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Likes For Seattle Forrest:
Old 08-03-20, 05:11 PM
  #278  
Seattle Forrest
Senior Member
 
Seattle Forrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 23,208
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18883 Post(s)
Liked 10,646 Times in 6,054 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
Did any of the Common People give you the hairy eyeball?
​​​​​​No, but I passed a guy with hairy palms.
Seattle Forrest is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:06 PM
  #279  
WhyFi
Senior Member
 
WhyFi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: TC, MN
Posts: 39,505

Bikes: R3 Disc, Haanjo

Mentioned: 353 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20791 Post(s)
Liked 9,436 Times in 4,663 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
Indeed. And none of them seem to be able to hold a line.
If I can be permitted to go off-subject in this oh-so-serious thread...

Shortly after reading this comment, I was driving and had someone just in front of me commit one of my pet peeves - a great big, dumb, widening of their turn. Like, to the point where their wheels are out of their lane on one side to make a turn in the other direction. You see it pretty often with SUVs (I guess they roll a bit much and people can't be bothered to slow down enough to make a proper turn?), but this was with a Prius. A friggin' Prius. Dude just about swiped parked cars on the right while widening to take his left.

HOLD YOUR LINE! There needs to be a "We're going to yell honk at you" thread on CarForums.net.

Last edited by WhyFi; 08-03-20 at 06:09 PM.
WhyFi is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:15 PM
  #280  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
If I can be permitted to go off-subject in this oh-so-serious thread...

Shortly after reading this comment, I was driving and had someone just in front of me commit one of my pet peeves - a great big, dumb, widening of their turn. Like, to the point where their wheels are out of their lane on one side to make a turn in the other direction. You see it pretty often with SUVs (I guess they roll a bit much and people can't be bothered to slow down enough to make a proper turn?), but this was with a Prius. A friggin' Prius. Dude just about swiped parked cars on the right while widening to take his left.

HOLD YOUR LINE! There needs to be a "We're going to yell honk at you" thread on CarForums.net.
He needs one of those signs they put on 18-wheelers about making wide turns.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:19 PM
  #281  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
If I can be permitted to go off-subject in this oh-so-serious thread...

Shortly after reading this comment, I was driving and had someone just in front of me commit one of my pet peeves - a great big, dumb, widening of their turn. Like, to the point where their wheels are out of their lane on one side to make a turn in the other direction. You see it pretty often with SUVs (I guess they roll a bit much and people can't be bothered to slow down enough to make a proper turn?), but this was with a Prius. A friggin' Prius. Dude just about swiped parked cars on the right while widening to take his left.

HOLD YOUR LINE! There needs to be a "We're going to yell honk at you" thread on CarForums.net.
Oddly, the drivers were exceptionally polite while I was out riding this morning. Conspicuously so.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:46 PM
  #282  
bampilot06
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: 757
Posts: 11,241

Bikes: Madone, Emonda, 5500, Ritchey Breakaway

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10233 Post(s)
Liked 5,171 Times in 2,220 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Oddly, the drivers were exceptionally polite while I was out riding this morning. Conspicuously so.

did the other cyclist wave at you though?
bampilot06 is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:51 PM
  #283  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by bampilot06
did the other cyclist wave at you though?
Oh yes, and a great many walkers. The people out on the trail itself are almost always friendly. The cars, not so much.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 06:52 PM
  #284  
bampilot06
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: 757
Posts: 11,241

Bikes: Madone, Emonda, 5500, Ritchey Breakaway

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10233 Post(s)
Liked 5,171 Times in 2,220 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Oh yes, and a great many walkers. The people out on the trail itself are almost always friendly. The cars, not so much.

fantastic! I was concerned.
bampilot06 is offline  
Likes For bampilot06:
Old 08-03-20, 07:03 PM
  #285  
diphthong
velo-dilettante
 
diphthong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: insane diego, california
Posts: 8,311

Bikes: 85 pinarello treviso steel, 88 nishiki olympic steel. 95 look kg 131 carbon, 11 trek madone 5.2 carbon

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1626 Post(s)
Liked 3,112 Times in 1,682 Posts
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
You'll get fat and not win any races, didn't you see the water bottle? Have some broccoli instead.
i'm not riding 6k miles a year to eat broccoli and i'd rather watch the carnage resulting from racing than be an active carnage participant.

anyone want red vines or raisinets?

liking the new rapha core lightweight jersey about as much as some of their older, more expensive lightweight/flyweight jerseys.
it doesn't have a "valuables" zippered pocket but i will purchase another one probably in the fall when things finally get restocked
in a size large.

Last edited by diphthong; 08-03-20 at 07:06 PM.
diphthong is offline  
Old 08-03-20, 07:14 PM
  #286  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,513
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3233 Post(s)
Liked 2,511 Times in 1,510 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
If I can be permitted to go off-subject in this oh-so-serious thread...

Shortly after reading this comment, I was driving and had someone just in front of me commit one of my pet peeves - a great big, dumb, widening of their turn. Like, to the point where their wheels are out of their lane on one side to make a turn in the other direction. You see it pretty often with SUVs (I guess they roll a bit much and people can't be bothered to slow down enough to make a proper turn?), but this was with a Prius. A friggin' Prius. Dude just about swiped parked cars on the right while widening to take his left.

HOLD YOUR LINE! There needs to be a "We're going to yell honk at you" thread on CarForums.net.
Since that "Africa" remake was all the rage a year or two ago, maybe someone should remake Toto's "Hold the Line." That would put it out in the mainstream.
seypat is offline  
Likes For seypat:
Old 08-03-20, 07:18 PM
  #287  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
And I will say Prii wallow. That rear suspension is heavily compromised to fit the batteries, and it's a soft pig. That said, it's no worse than the GX, and can certainly be driven properly if the driver is competent.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Old 08-04-20, 12:04 AM
  #288  
guadzilla
Pointy Helmet Tribe
 
guadzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Offthebackistan
Posts: 4,338

Bikes: R5, Allez Sprint, Shiv

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Liked 627 Times in 295 Posts
Originally Posted by WhyFi
Dave Standard is going to write a VERY disapproving post about this as well.
guadzilla is offline  
Likes For guadzilla:
Old 08-04-20, 12:13 AM
  #289  
guadzilla
Pointy Helmet Tribe
 
guadzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Offthebackistan
Posts: 4,338

Bikes: R5, Allez Sprint, Shiv

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Liked 627 Times in 295 Posts
Originally Posted by mattcalifornia
What's so weird about it? And yes, I suppose it could among a certain audience. If you know much about eating disorders, that shouldn't surprise you. But the point is that it was, in my opinion, a reasonable criticism for someone to make. You can disagree with it, but it's not crazy.
If you extrapolate everything into the realm of "maybe, somewhere, someone MAY be affected", then pretty much everything becomes verboten. Some common sense is good.

Someone used "put me back on my bike" as a quote. That quote is directly associated with tragedy and i can see how using that on a bottle would be in poor taste. But this? This is an example of the sort of stuff elite athletes do, in order to be elite. Pro cyclists do a lot of crazy stuff to reach race weight - eg, eat apple peels as a snack. MMA fighters do even more insane stuff to make weight cuts.

The connection between what Pantani did and eating disorders is extremely tenuous except in the most banal/shallowest of ways. Just because some easily-offended halfwit is unable to parse the distinction between a nod to the extreme dedication of the elite and the more mundane concerns of the non-elite does not make it the rest of the world's problem.

People are entitled to respect and support for the issues they are facing - what they are NOT entitled to is for the rest of the world to start tip-toeing around in order to avoid doing something that even remotely at anything that they might find bothersome.
guadzilla is offline  
Likes For guadzilla:
Old 08-04-20, 12:16 AM
  #290  
guadzilla
Pointy Helmet Tribe
 
guadzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Offthebackistan
Posts: 4,338

Bikes: R5, Allez Sprint, Shiv

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 519 Post(s)
Liked 627 Times in 295 Posts
Originally Posted by genejockey
I keep finding everything I want is out of stock in my size. I suspect there may be more 6', 220lb guys on the road these days.
Where the hell are all these guys at the hilly races?

I'll tell you where they are NOT - not in Asia, that's for sure. At 180lb, i am atleast 20lb heavier than most guys i race with, and typically 35-40lb.

I find this offensive and discriminatory towards Fatsos and by having more jerseys in smaller sizes and fewer in larger sizes (confession - after this thread, i went to buy a Core jersey too, but the one i wanted was sold out too), Rapha is contributing towards this unfairness. Cut their heads off!
guadzilla is offline  
Likes For guadzilla:
Old 08-04-20, 12:24 AM
  #291  
diphthong
velo-dilettante
 
diphthong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: insane diego, california
Posts: 8,311

Bikes: 85 pinarello treviso steel, 88 nishiki olympic steel. 95 look kg 131 carbon, 11 trek madone 5.2 carbon

Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1626 Post(s)
Liked 3,112 Times in 1,682 Posts
i grabbed some hot tamales, peanut m & m's and jujubes as well. any other requests?
diphthong is offline  
Old 08-04-20, 01:02 AM
  #292  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by ooga-booga
i grabbed some hot tamales, peanut m & m's and jujubes as well. any other requests?
Milk Duds and some Raisinettes, please.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:
Old 08-04-20, 01:06 AM
  #293  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by guadzilla
Where the hell are all these guys at the hilly races?

I'll tell you where they are NOT - not in Asia, that's for sure. At 180lb, i am atleast 20lb heavier than most guys i race with, and typically 35-40lb.

I find this offensive and discriminatory towards Fatsos and by having more jerseys in smaller sizes and fewer in larger sizes (confession - after this thread, i went to buy a Core jersey too, but the one i wanted was sold out too), Rapha is contributing towards this unfairness. Cut their heads off!
Same place as Mario Cipollini when the Tour got to the Alps - Somewhere Else.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:
Old 08-04-20, 05:31 PM
  #294  
colnago62
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,433
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 412 Times in 230 Posts
Never understood why larger roadies didn’t do more track racing. The training for mass start racing is the same as the road except you might spend one night a week at the velodrome doing intervals.
colnago62 is offline  
Old 08-04-20, 05:35 PM
  #295  
noodle soup
Senior Member
 
noodle soup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 8,922
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4717 Post(s)
Liked 1,882 Times in 998 Posts
Originally Posted by colnago62
Never understood why larger roadies didn’t do more track racing. The training for mass start racing is the same as the road except you might spend one night a week at the velodrome doing intervals.
the lack of velodromes might have something to do with that.
noodle soup is offline  
Likes For noodle soup:
Old 08-04-20, 06:07 PM
  #296  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by noodle soup
the lack of velodromes might have something to do with that.
I'd literally like to try track cycling, but... yeah there's one sticking point.
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 08-04-20, 06:22 PM
  #297  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by noodle soup
the lack of velodromes might have something to do with that.
Track cycling sounds too much like riding a trainer. I ride to go someplace, and I like the rate at which the scenery changes outdoors. But that's just me.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Old 08-04-20, 06:58 PM
  #298  
colnago62
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,433
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 741 Post(s)
Liked 412 Times in 230 Posts
Originally Posted by noodle soup
the lack of velodromes might have something to do with that.
Even here, where we have 3 velodromes within a 3 hour drive, you get that resistance.
colnago62 is offline  
Old 08-04-20, 07:03 PM
  #299  
Bah Humbug
serious cyclist
 
Bah Humbug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147

Bikes: S1, R2, P2

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times in 2,026 Posts
Originally Posted by colnago62
Even here, where we have 3 velodromes within a 3 hour drive, you get that resistance.
A three-hour drive means it's all day to put in a short ride. I get that. If there were one in town I'd be game though.

And hey, what's this thread about, anyway?
Bah Humbug is offline  
Likes For Bah Humbug:
Old 08-04-20, 07:13 PM
  #300  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,900

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10392 Post(s)
Liked 11,842 Times in 6,062 Posts
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
A three-hour drive means it's all day to put in a short ride. I get that. If there were one in town I'd be game though.

And hey, what's this thread about, anyway?
It's about 300 comments long.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.